On Oct 24, 2020, x wrote on alt.philosophy.taoism
(in article<a308917d-192d-4d5f-9b4c-1c338c91775en@googlegroups.com>):

of the dozen or so books on Chi Kung i bought it's the cheapest second hand one written by a humble english dude that draws me in first, emphasizing the the felt experience of Chi at the heart of Chi Kung, albeit late in the book.. the necessity and importance of such pointing out growing every so frustratingly - i was feeling annoyed with all the talking as well as the exercise descriptions brushing over the issue of feeling the Chi but had started skipping straight to the exercises at the end of each chapter preparing to Just Do It, when i found the final chapter addressed the question of feeling "Chi" by repeated practice.

I think my hands and feet were awakened to chi sensitivity
by painful rCLthorn acupuncturerCY during my naked thorn hill
climb of Sept.5/6, 1991. And for a couple of days after
that, my hands received mini-shocks from metal cutlery
so I had to wrap it in paper napkins.

Some past parallels to my thorn hill climb are Moses barefoot
in the thorn bush and Quetzalcoatl self-sacrificing on thorns.
Let me know if you know of any others.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) rCLAnd the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)
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On Nov 5, 2020, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2553DB68000EA65670000245938F@news.eternal-september.org>):

On Oct 24, 2020, x wrote on alt.philosophy.taoism
(in article<a308917d-192d-4d5f-9b4c-1c338c91775en@googlegroups.com>):

of the dozen or so books on Chi Kung i bought it's the cheapest second hand one written by a humble english dude that draws me in first, emphasizing the
the felt experience of Chi at the heart of Chi Kung, albeit late in the book.. the necessity and importance of such pointing out growing every so frustratingly - i was feeling annoyed with all the talking as well as the exercise descriptions brushing over the issue of feeling the Chi but had started skipping straight to the exercises at the end of each chapter preparing to Just Do It, when i found the final chapter addressed the question of feeling "Chi" by repeated practice.

I think my hands and feet were awakened to chi sensitivity
by painful rCLthorn acupuncturerCY during my naked thorn hill
climb of Sept.5/6, 1991. And for a couple of days after
that, my hands received mini-shocks from metal cutlery
so I had to wrap it in paper napkins.

Some past parallels to my thorn hill climb are Moses barefoot
in the thorn bush and Quetzalcoatl self-sacrificing on thorns.
Let me know if you know of any others.

Of course there is also JesusrCOs crown of thorns and the
thorns wrapped around his heart in the old Catholic
Sacred Heart of Jesus picture. Also I think piercing
of hands and feet is mentioned in the Old Testament.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) rCLAnd the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)
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Chi (prana) as well as thorns are of course of the phenomenal world and as such can never really be but of passing interest, but a fascinating interest it is! Incredibly powerful force when directed with knowledge, skill and intent. One of the most interesting books I have read on the subject was called, "The Tao of Sex and Love" https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Tao_of_Love_and_Sex.html?id=ehkfC7Syw-UC
I practiced marshal arts for a number of years and at the time, I left it for Yoga, I was learning something called "iron palm" which involved moving chi in such a way as ultimately one could break a coconut on a string with your hand and not move the string or the coconut. I did not progress anywhere near that level and I have not seen that done, but I have witnessed coconut breaks very close to that. The idea is, in combat, if you can marshal chi sufficiently you can split a opponents head open with what would appear to be little or no effort. Also this I imagine would be the underlying principle behind the mysterious dim mak.
Jared

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 12:04:10 AM UTC-7, David Dalton wrote:

On Oct 24, 2020, x wrote on alt.philosophy.taoism
(in article<a308917d-192d-4d5f...@googlegroups.com>):

of the dozen or so books on Chi Kung i bought it's the cheapest second hand
one written by a humble english dude that draws me in first, emphasizing the
the felt experience of Chi at the heart of Chi Kung, albeit late in the book.. the necessity and importance of such pointing out growing every so frustratingly - i was feeling annoyed with all the talking as well as the exercise descriptions brushing over the issue of feeling the Chi but had started skipping straight to the exercises at the end of each chapter preparing to Just Do It, when i found the final chapter addressed the question of feeling "Chi" by repeated practice.

I think my hands and feet were awakened to chi sensitivity
by painful rCLthorn acupuncturerCY during my naked thorn hill
climb of Sept.5/6, 1991. And for a couple of days after
that, my hands received mini-shocks from metal cutlery
so I had to wrap it in paper napkins.

Some past parallels to my thorn hill climb are Moses barefoot
in the thorn bush and Quetzalcoatl self-sacrificing on thorns.
Let me know if you know of any others.

--
David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) rCLAnd the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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