• Regarding Boat Flotation

    From Marc Messing@24:150/2 to rec.sport.rowing on Mon Mar 14 09:19:06 2022
    A recent post on reddit rowing (13 March, "Underneath the pretty picture...") showed half of an eight being carried away from the dock after a collision in The Netherlands. My question is this: how robust are flotation standards in terms of supporting crews when crashes damage the hulls?
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  • From carl@24:150/2 to rec.sport.rowing on Mon Mar 14 18:16:33 2022
    On 14/03/2022 16:19, Marc Messing wrote:
    A recent post on reddit rowing (13 March, "Underneath the pretty picture...") showed half of an eight being carried away from the dock after a collision in The Netherlands. My question is this: how robust are flotation standards in terms of supporting crews when crashes damage the hulls?


    Marc -
    There are no crash-test standards for racing shells, However, if it was
    built with full buoyancy/flotation then, even if cut in half, there
    should be something to support swimmers, but the crew might well have
    been thrown from the boat.

    After such an impact the first concern will be for the safety & rescue
    of anyone injured in that process. That could be tricky.

    Do we know how this boat to which you refer came to be broken?

    Carl

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  • From Andy McKenzie@24:150/2 to rec.sport.rowing on Wed Mar 16 03:43:44 2022
    On Monday, 14 March 2022 at 18:16:27 UTC, carl wrote:
    On 14/03/2022 16:19, Marc Messing wrote:
    A recent post on reddit rowing (13 March, "Underneath the pretty picture...") showed half of an eight being carried away from the dock after a collision in The Netherlands. My question is this: how robust are flotation standards in terms of supporting crews when crashes damage the hulls?

    Marc -
    There are no crash-test standards for racing shells, However, if it was built with full buoyancy/flotation then, even if cut in half, there
    should be something to support swimmers, but the crew might well have
    been thrown from the boat.

    After such an impact the first concern will be for the safety & rescue
    of anyone injured in that process. That could be tricky.

    Do we know how this boat to which you refer came to be broken?

    Carl

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    I had a look at the Reddit pages, - it's not totally clear but sounds like an accident during marshalling or warm up at the Heineken Roeivierkamp in the Netherlands. There is a linked picture on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/CbF3jNkAbNu/?hl=en) that shows some fairly catastrophic damage. I can't quite get my head round the picture, but it looks as if the stern of the boat was torn off in front of the coxes seat. Seems very fortunate that there weren't serious injuries.
    Andy
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  • From carl@24:150/2 to rec.sport.rowing on Wed Mar 16 12:26:32 2022
    On 16/03/2022 10:43, Andy McKenzie wrote:
    On Monday, 14 March 2022 at 18:16:27 UTC, carl wrote:
    On 14/03/2022 16:19, Marc Messing wrote:
    A recent post on reddit rowing (13 March, "Underneath the pretty picture...") showed half of an eight being carried away from the dock after a collision in The Netherlands. My question is this: how robust are flotation standards in terms of supporting crews when crashes damage the hulls?

    Marc -
    There are no crash-test standards for racing shells, However, if it was
    built with full buoyancy/flotation then, even if cut in half, there
    should be something to support swimmers, but the crew might well have
    been thrown from the boat.

    After such an impact the first concern will be for the safety & rescue
    of anyone injured in that process. That could be tricky.

    Do we know how this boat to which you refer came to be broken?

    Carl

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    I had a look at the Reddit pages, - it's not totally clear but sounds like an accident during marshalling or warm up at the Heineken Roeivierkamp in the Netherlands. There is a linked picture on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/CbF3jNkAbNu/?hl=en) that shows some fairly catastrophic damage. I can't quite get my head round the picture, but it looks as if the stern of the boat was torn off in front of the coxes seat. Seems very fortunate that there weren't serious injuries.

    Andy


    Although that photo seems to show a very mashed-up bow? I trust that no
    one was hurt?

    Cheers -
    Carl

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  • From Andy McKenzie@24:150/2 to rec.sport.rowing on Wed Mar 16 09:09:36 2022
    On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 12:26:29 UTC, carl wrote:
    On 16/03/2022 10:43, Andy McKenzie wrote:
    On Monday, 14 March 2022 at 18:16:27 UTC, carl wrote:
    On 14/03/2022 16:19, Marc Messing wrote:
    A recent post on reddit rowing (13 March, "Underneath the pretty picture...") showed half of an eight being carried away from the dock after a collision in The Netherlands. My question is this: how robust are flotation standards in terms of supporting crews when crashes damage the hulls?

    Marc -
    There are no crash-test standards for racing shells, However, if it was >> built with full buoyancy/flotation then, even if cut in half, there
    should be something to support swimmers, but the crew might well have
    been thrown from the boat.

    After such an impact the first concern will be for the safety & rescue
    of anyone injured in that process. That could be tricky.

    Do we know how this boat to which you refer came to be broken?

    Carl

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    Write: Harris Boatyard, Laleham Reach, Chertsey KT16 8RP, UK
    Find: tinyurl.com/2tqujf
    Email: ca...@carldouglasrowing.com Tel: +44(0)1932-570946 Fax: -563682
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    I had a look at the Reddit pages, - it's not totally clear but sounds like an accident during marshalling or warm up at the Heineken Roeivierkamp in the Netherlands. There is a linked picture on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/CbF3jNkAbNu/?hl=en) that shows some fairly catastrophic damage. I can't quite get my head round the picture, but it looks as if the stern of the boat was torn off in front of the coxes seat. Seems very fortunate that there weren't serious injuries.

    Andy

    Although that photo seems to show a very mashed-up bow? I trust that no
    one was hurt?

    Cheers -
    Carl

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    It does say some people were taken to hospital for check ups, but not hurt. And bows is more sensible, i just wasn't interpreting the photo sensibly. (Memo to self - go to specsavers)
    Andy
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  • From mpruscoe@hotmail.com@24:150/2 to rec.sport.rowing on Thu Mar 17 07:21:44 2022
    On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 16:09:38 UTC, Andy McKenzie wrote:
    It does say some people were taken to hospital for check ups, but not hurt. And bows is more sensible, i just wasn't interpreting the photo sensibly. (Memo to self - go to specsavers)

    Andy

    Looks like a wing rigger ripped through the boat from the bow to the bow seat bulkhead, separating the bow canvas from the boat.
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