• Use-the-NT 2020: Match Day 2

    From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Oct 25 17:04:08 2020
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.
    Armata
    DF: Bonucci, Spinazzola, Chiellini, D'Ambrosio
    MF: Barella, Cristante, Jorginho, Beltrame
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano
    Babes
    DF Scholz, Lindel||f, Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov, Eikrem, Hussain, Erikssen
    FW Zlatan, Haaland --, Berg, Omoijuanfo, Poulsen
    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),
    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo
    Midgets
    DF: Reguilon, Pique, Navas
    MF: Koke , David Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz, Baena (c)
    FW: Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata
    Pact
    DF: Rakitskyi, Mario Fernandes, Orban
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Hagi, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis, Despodov
    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: Davies, Herrera, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano, Pulisic, David (C), Bailey, Corona
    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Pepe
    MF: Bruno Fernades-- , Danilo, Gabriel, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Ricardo Horta, Rony Lopes, Trinc|uo, Rafa Silva Waffles/Windmills
    DF: Meunier, Castagne, De Vrij
    MF Wijnaldum, Vanaken, A. Witsel, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku --, Carrasco, Mertens, Luuk De Jong, Doku
    Watch
    DF: Hummels, Sule, Can
    MF: Goretzka, Reus, Kroos, Havertz, G||tze
    FW: Sane, Werner, M|+ller(C), Waldschmidt
    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Oct 25 21:36:45 2020
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Armata
    DF: Bonucci, Spinazzola, Chiellini, D'Ambrosio
    MF: Barella, Cristante, Jorginho, Beltrame
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano
    Both Chiellini and Bonucci picked up injuries this week, but Insigne is back, and Kean netted a brace for PSG, even though I don't expect him to start in midweek. Hmmm...
    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Darmian, Romagnoli
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean

    Babes
    DF Scholz, Lindel||f, Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov, Eikrem, Hussain, Erikssen
    FW Zlatan, Haaland --, Berg, Omoijuanfo, Poulsen

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    DF: Reguilon, Pique, Navas
    MF: Koke , David Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz, Baena (c)
    FW: Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata

    Pact
    DF: Rakitskyi, Mario Fernandes, Orban
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Hagi, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis, Despodov

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: Davies, Herrera, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano, Pulisic, David (C), Bailey, Corona

    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Pepe
    MF: Bruno Fernades-- , Danilo, Gabriel, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Ricardo Horta, Rony Lopes, Trinc|uo, Rafa Silva

    Waffles/Windmills
    DF: Meunier, Castagne, De Vrij
    MF Wijnaldum, Vanaken, A. Witsel, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku --, Carrasco, Mertens, Luuk De Jong, Doku

    Watch
    DF: Hummels, Sule, Can
    MF: Goretzka, Reus, Kroos, Havertz, G||tze
    FW: Sane, Werner, M|+ller(C), Waldschmidt

    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++
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  • From HASM@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 26 08:02:50 2020
    Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> writes:
    Tugas Oct 27/28/29:
    DF:
    Rapha|2l Guerreiro (Dortmund)
    Jo|uo Cancelo (Man. City)
    Ruben Vinagre (Olympiacos)
    MF:
    Bruno Fernandes (c) (Man. United)
    Pizzi (Benfica)
    Renato Sanches (LOSC)
    Andr|- Horta (Braga)
    FW:
    Jo|uo F|-lix (Atl|-tico)
    Ricardo Horta (Braga)
    Diogo Jota (Liverpool)
    Paulinho (Braga)
    Rafa Silva (Benfica)
    -- HASM
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 26 09:42:31 2020
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 11:02:54 AM UTC-4, HASM wrote:
    Futbolmetrix <> writes:

    Tugas Oct 27/28/29:

    DF:
    Rapha|2l Guerreiro (Dortmund)
    Jo|uo Cancelo (Man. City)
    Ruben Vinagre (Olympiacos)

    MF:
    Bruno Fernandes (c) (Man. United)
    Pizzi (Benfica)
    Renato Sanches (LOSC)
    Andr|- Horta (Braga)

    FW:
    Jo|uo F|-lix (Atl|-tico)
    Ricardo Horta (Braga)
    Diogo Jota (Liverpool)
    Paulinho (Braga)
    Rafa Silva (Benfica)

    No Ronaldo? (OK, still uncertain whether he'll be available on Wednesday...) --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 26 11:23:50 2020
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Pact
    DF: Rakitskyi, Mario Fernandes, Orban
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Hagi, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis, Despodov


    Some tinkering:

    DF: Mykolenko, Orban, Mario Fernandes
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Kuchaev, Mkhitaryan,
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Supriaha, Chalov, Yaremchuk
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 26 12:45:13 2020
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 01:04:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),
    Vardy back in for the moment instead of Goldson.
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane (c), Vardy
    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: Davies, Herrera, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano, Pulisic, David (C), Bailey, Corona
    Bad news for the Rockers that Davies is out for several weeks.


    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++
    Ulmer, Fassnacht out
    Sabitzer, Shaqiri in
    Sabitzer captain again
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Shaqiri
    FW: Sabitzer (c), Kara, Gavranovi-c, Ragu++
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 26 13:48:32 2020
    On 2020-10-25 18:04, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Europeans have moved back to standard time (I think ?) whereas Norte Americanos are still on daylight savings time (except in places like Saskatchewan and Creston BC). As for antipodeans and others, I have not
    been following...


    Armata
    DF: Bonucci, Spinazzola, Chiellini, D'Ambrosio
    MF: Barella, Cristante, Jorginho, Beltrame
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano

    Babes
    DF Scholz, Lindel||f, Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov, Eikrem, Hussain, Erikssen
    FW Zlatan, Haaland --, Berg, Omoijuanfo, Poulsen

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    DF: Reguilon, Pique, Navas

    Pique is suspended so in with Ramos and out with Pique.

    MF: Koke , David Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz, Baena (c)

    Baena out and not Captain. Add Isco instead.

    FW: Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata

    For now, Morata as captain. Lots of chopping and changing and a final
    lineup for tomorrow around 11:30 tomorrow


    Pact
    DF: Rakitskyi, Mario Fernandes, Orban
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Hagi, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis, Despodov

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: Davies, Herrera, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano, Pulisic, David (C), Bailey, Corona

    MAke Pulisic captain.


    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Pepe
    MF: Bruno Fernades-- , Danilo, Gabriel, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Ricardo Horta, Rony Lopes, Trinc|uo, Rafa Silva

    Waffles/Windmills
    DF: Meunier, Castagne, De Vrij
    MF Wijnaldum, Vanaken, A. Witsel, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku --, Carrasco, Mertens, Luuk De Jong, Doku


    Some changes will be made, but not yet.


    Watch
    DF: Hummels, Sule, Can
    MF: Goretzka, Reus, Kroos, Havertz, G||tze
    FW: Sane, Werner, M|+ller(C), Waldschmidt

    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++

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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 26 13:31:04 2020
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 12:36:48 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Armata
    DF: Bonucci, Spinazzola, Chiellini, D'Ambrosio
    MF: Barella, Cristante, Jorginho, Beltrame
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano

    Both Chiellini and Bonucci picked up injuries this week, but Insigne is back, and Kean netted a brace for PSG, even though I don't expect him to start in midweek. Hmmm...

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Darmian, Romagnoli
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean

    More early tinkering. I had forgotten about Florenzi, who is probabl more of a goal threat than Romagnoli.
    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Darmian, Florenzi
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean
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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 26 22:21:50 2020
    On 2020-10-26, Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> wrote:

    Babes
    DF Scholz, Lindel%f, Kjur (Milan)
    MF Skov, Eikrem, Hussain, Erikssen
    FW Zlatan, Haaland -, Berg, Omoijuanfo, Poulsen

    Get rid of the no-longer-playing-Dundalk Molde players (but keep the
    pk taker). Put in some players who scored last round (and never will
    again).

    DF Scholz (Midtjylland), Lindel%f (Man Utd), Kjur (Milan)
    MF Skov (Hoffenheim), Eriksen (Inter), Kulusevski (Juventus),
    Karlsson (Alkmaar)
    FW Zlatan (Milan), Haaland (Dortmund) (C), Dolberg (Nice),
    Omoijuanfo (Molde), Ishak (Lech)
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 26 18:15:03 2020
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    What the hell, new entry:

    The Middle Eastern Peaceniks, includes all nationalities in the core MENA region (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MENA).

    This is going to be low maintenance, so here's the default lineup:

    DF: Hakimi, Mazraoui, Bensebaini
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah (c), Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Oct 26 20:45:59 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 02:15:07 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    What the hell, new entry:

    The Middle Eastern Peaceniks, includes all nationalities in the core MENA region (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MENA).
    Would have scored 10 goals on matchday 1, if I'm not mistaken.
    (Bensebaini, Solomon, Koka, Yaz-#c-# x3, Dabbur, Yusuf Helal, Cohen, Refaelov) Certainly competitive, but not easy to pick.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    This is going to be low maintenance, so here's the default lineup:

    DF: Hakimi, Mazraoui, Bensebaini
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah (c), Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 03:52:07 2020
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 11:46:01 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 02:15:07 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    What the hell, new entry:

    The Middle Eastern Peaceniks, includes all nationalities in the core MENA region (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MENA).

    Would have scored 10 goals on matchday 1, if I'm not mistaken.
    (Bensebaini, Solomon, Koka, Yaz-#c-# x3, Dabbur, Yusuf Helal, Cohen, Refaelov)

    Certainly competitive, but not easy to pick.
    No Yazici, Turkey is not MENA. And without Turkey, it becomes a lot easier to pick. As for competitiveness, goals by four different Israeli players in a European matchday could very well be a first...
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 04:04:39 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 11:52:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 11:46:01 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 02:15:07 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the
    ones that ended MD1.

    What the hell, new entry:

    The Middle Eastern Peaceniks, includes all nationalities in the core MENA region (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MENA).

    Would have scored 10 goals on matchday 1, if I'm not mistaken.
    (Bensebaini, Solomon, Koka, Yaz-#c-# x3, Dabbur, Yusuf Helal, Cohen, Refaelov)

    Certainly competitive, but not easy to pick.

    No Yazici, Turkey is not MENA.
    I don't mind either way, but in that Wikipedia link it's a big dark green rectangle?
    And without Turkey, it becomes a lot easier to pick. As for competitiveness, goals by four different Israeli players in a European matchday could very well be a first...
    Eliel Peretz is welcome to add to the list!
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 04:46:50 2020
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 7:04:43 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 11:52:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 11:46:01 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 02:15:07 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the
    ones that ended MD1.

    What the hell, new entry:

    The Middle Eastern Peaceniks, includes all nationalities in the core MENA
    region (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MENA).

    Would have scored 10 goals on matchday 1, if I'm not mistaken. (Bensebaini, Solomon, Koka, Yaz-#c-# x3, Dabbur, Yusuf Helal, Cohen, Refaelov)

    Certainly competitive, but not easy to pick.

    No Yazici, Turkey is not MENA.

    I don't mind either way, but in that Wikipedia link it's a big dark green rectangle?
    You're right, wiki lists Turkey as part of MENA, but most other sources don't. Anyway, for the purposes of the Peaceniks, no Turkey.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 08:41:45 2020
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 4:31:06 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Darmian, Florenzi
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean
    Lazio has had a COVID outbreak, no Immobile and several others. Darmian unlikely to start now that Hakimi is back. Updated Armata:
    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Frabotta
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa (c), Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean, Petagna
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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 17:42:34 2020
    On 2020-10-26, Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:

    DF Scholz (Midtjylland), Lindel%f (Man Utd), Kjur (Milan)
    MF Skov (Hoffenheim), Eriksen (Inter), Kulusevski (Juventus),
    Karlsson (Alkmaar)
    FW Zlatan (Milan), Haaland (Dortmund) (C), Dolberg (Nice),
    Omoijuanfo (Molde), Ishak (Lech)

    Conte is spelt with an U. Eriksen OUT. Eikrem IN.
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 11:50:26 2020
    On 2020-10-26 13:48, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-25 18:04, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups
    the ones that ended MD1.

    Europeans have moved back to standard time (I think ?) whereas Norte Americanos are still on daylight savings time (except in places like Saskatchewan and Creston BC).-a As for antipodeans and others, I have not been following...


    Armata
    DF: Bonucci, Spinazzola, Chiellini, D'Ambrosio
    MF: Barella, Cristante, Jorginho, Beltrame
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano

    Babes
    DF Scholz, Lindel||f, Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov, Eikrem, Hussain, Erikssen
    FW Zlatan, Haaland --, Berg, Omoijuanfo, Poulsen

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    DF: Reguilon, Pique, Navas

    Pique is suspended so in with Ramos and out with Pique.

    MF: Koke , David Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz, Baena (c)

    Baena out and not Captain.-a Add Isco instead.

    FW: Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata

    For now, Morata as captain.-a Lots of chopping and changing and a final lineup for tomorrow around 11:30 tomorrow

    Update coming at 1:45 PM our time



    Pact
    DF: Rakitskyi, Mario Fernandes, Orban
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Hagi, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis, Despodov

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF:-a Davies, Herrera, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW:-a Lozano, Pulisic, David (C),-a Bailey, Corona

    MAke Pulisic captain.

    Davies out for 2 months. Replace with Giovanni Reyna (USA and Dortmund)



    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Pepe
    MF: Bruno Fernades-- , Danilo, Gabriel, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Ricardo Horta, Rony Lopes, Trinc|uo, Rafa Silva

    Waffles/Windmills
    DF:-a Meunier, Castagne, De Vrij
    MF-a-a Wijnaldum, Vanaken, A. Witsel, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku --,-a Carrasco, Mertens, Luuk De Jong, Doku


    Some changes will be made, but not yet.


    Watch
    DF: Hummels, Sule, Can
    MF: Goretzka, Reus, Kroos, Havertz, G||tze
    FW: Sane, Werner, M|+ller(C), Waldschmidt

    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++


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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 11:11:24 2020
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 01:04:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.


    The Watch opens the scoring after 12 minutes through Goretzka.

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well-oiled machine.


    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 11:45:27 2020
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well-oiled
    machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 11:55:15 2020
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 9:15:07 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: Hakimi, Mazraoui, Bensebaini
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah (c), Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

    Salah and Mahrez starting on the bench? All we are saying, is give peace a chance, but nobody's listening...

    Dabbur promoted to captain.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 12:20:19 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well- oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.

    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 12:32:21 2020
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well-
    oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here
    some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out Pact goal.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 12:35:45 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score.

    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!


    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 13:52:36 2020
    On 2020-10-27 11:50, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-26 13:48, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-25 18:04, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups
    the ones that ended MD1.

    Europeans have moved back to standard time (I think ?) whereas Norte
    Americanos are still on daylight savings time (except in places like
    Saskatchewan and Creston BC).-a As for antipodeans and others, I have
    not been following...


    Armata
    DF: Bonucci, Spinazzola, Chiellini, D'Ambrosio
    MF: Barella, Cristante, Jorginho, Beltrame
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano

    Babes
    DF Scholz, Lindel||f, Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov, Eikrem, Hussain, Erikssen
    FW Zlatan, Haaland --, Berg, Omoijuanfo, Poulsen

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    DF: Reguilon, Pique, Navas

    Pique is suspended so in with Ramos and out with Pique.

    MF: Koke , David Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz, Baena (c)

    Baena out and not Captain.-a Add Isco instead.

    FW: Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata

    For now, Morata as captain.-a Lots of chopping and changing and a final
    lineup for tomorrow around 11:30 tomorrow

    Update coming at 1:45 PM our time

    ISco out , Asensio in.

    New Lineup

    D: Ramos, REguilon, Navas
    MF: Koke, D. Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz,
    F: Asensio, Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata (C)



    Pact
    DF: Rakitskyi, Mario Fernandes, Orban
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Hagi, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis, Despodov

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF:-a Davies, Herrera, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW:-a Lozano, Pulisic, David (C),-a Bailey, Corona

    MAke Pulisic captain.

    Davies out for 2 months.-a Replace with Giovanni Reyna (USA and Dortmund)


    Herrera not in lineup. Replace with McKennie. Juventus and USA


    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: McKennie, Arfield, ALvarez, Reyna
    FW: Lozano, Pulisic (C), David, Bailey, Corona

    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Pepe
    MF: Bruno Fernades-- , Danilo, Gabriel, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Ricardo Horta, Rony Lopes, Trinc|uo, Rafa Silva

    Waffles/Windmills
    DF:-a Meunier, Castagne, De Vrij
    MF-a-a Wijnaldum, Vanaken, A. Witsel, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku --,-a Carrasco, Mertens, Luuk De Jong, Doku


    Some changes will be made, but not yet.


    Witsel out DeBruyne in.
    Carrasco out , Origi (Liverpool) in.


    Watch
    DF: Hummels, Sule, Can
    MF: Goretzka, Reus, Kroos, Havertz, G||tze
    FW: Sane, Werner, M|+ller(C), Waldschmidt

    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++



    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 12:56:06 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:52:40 UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-27 11:50, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-26 13:48, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-25 18:04, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups >>> the ones that ended MD1.

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF:-a Davies, Herrera, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW:-a Lozano, Pulisic, David (C),-a Bailey, Corona

    MAke Pulisic captain.

    Davies out for 2 months.-a Replace with Giovanni Reyna (USA and Dortmund)


    Herrera not in lineup. Replace with McKennie. Juventus and USA
    Atl|-tico's H|-ctor Herrera? He's starting.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 13:22:30 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:35:47 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell
    here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score.

    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!
    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.
    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the crossbar.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 13:24:49 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:22:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:


    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.

    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the crossbar.
    https://streamable.com/o4qnnj
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 14:28:48 2020
    On 2020-10-27 13:56, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:52:40 UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-27 11:50, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-26 13:48, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-25 18:04, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups >>>>> the ones that ended MD1.

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF:-a Davies, Herrera, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW:-a Lozano, Pulisic, David (C),-a Bailey, Corona

    MAke Pulisic captain.

    Davies out for 2 months.-a Replace with Giovanni Reyna (USA and Dortmund) >>>

    Herrera not in lineup. Replace with McKennie. Juventus and USA

    Sorry, brain fart.
    What is done is done. Neither is known for scoring


    Atl|-tico's H|-ctor Herrera? He's starting.


    Ciao,
    Werner

    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 13:34:59 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:22:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:35:47 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score.

    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!


    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.

    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the crossbar.
    Marcos Llorente gives Atl|-ti a deserved lead and the Midgets another left-out goal. Nevertheless, shaking my head at Stankovi-c's limp wrists and at Salzburg's refusal to address that glaring problem.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 13:42:42 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:35:02 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:22:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:35:47 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is
    a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the penalty
    when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score.

    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!


    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.

    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the crossbar.

    Marcos Llorente gives Atl|-ti a deserved lead and the Midgets another left-out
    goal. Nevertheless, shaking my head at Stankovi-c's limp wrists and at Salzburg's refusal to address that glaring problem.
    Szoboszlai!
    Yep, he's gone in winter.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 14:01:12 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well- oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge

    BTW I believe it's Aggie who's orchestrating the results in Group B.


    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 14:10:31 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:42:45 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:35:02 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:22:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:35:47 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is
    a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I
    smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the penalty
    when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score.

    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!


    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.

    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the crossbar.

    Marcos Llorente gives Atl|-ti a deserved lead and the Midgets another left- out goal. Nevertheless, shaking my head at Stankovi-c's limp wrists and at Salzburg's refusal to address that glaring problem.

    Szoboszlai!

    Yep, he's gone in winter.
    Show of hands - who would have known that Berisha's goal right now would have counted for the Watch?
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 14:14:34 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:22:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:35:47 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score.

    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!


    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.

    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the crossbar.
    Redeems himself and gets the Tugas on board, great team goal. And almost adds another one immediately afterwards.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 14:24:51 2020
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 5:10:33 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Show of hands - who would have known that Berisha's goal right now would have counted for the Watch?

    Not me. By the way, this is the first goal scored by Watch forward (up to now only midfielders had found the net)
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 14:41:43 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:14:36 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:22:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:35:47 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score.

    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!


    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.

    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the crossbar.

    Redeems himself and gets the Tugas on board, great team goal. And almost adds another one immediately afterwards.
    Sterling! Finally!
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From HASM@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 14:44:50 2020

    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira
    B team, didn't even look at those, though with fixture congestion a lot
    of them may see action.
    -- HASM
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 14:45:29 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:41:45 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:14:36 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:22:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:35:47 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I
    smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score.

    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!


    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.

    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the crossbar.

    Redeems himself and gets the Tugas on board, great team goal. And almost adds another one immediately afterwards.

    Jo|uo F|-lix :-(
    Salzburg were the better team in the second half.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 14:54:44 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:45:30 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:41:45 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:14:36 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:22:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:35:47 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score.

    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!


    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.

    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the crossbar.

    Redeems himself and gets the Tugas on board, great team goal. And almost adds another one immediately afterwards.


    Jo|uo F|-lix :-(
    Salzburg were the better team in the second half.
    First ever goal for the Jogo as Casemiro saves Real in the 93rd minute.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 15:40:42 2020
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:55:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 9:15:07 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: Hakimi, Mazraoui, Bensebaini
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah (c), Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

    Salah and Mahrez starting on the bench? All we are saying, is give peace a chance, but nobody's listening...

    Dabbur promoted to captain.

    Should have stuck to my promise of low maintenance...bumbling Peaceniks miss another opportunity
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Oct 27 15:43:15 2020
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 5:54:46 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:45:30 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:41:45 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:14:36 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:22:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:35:47 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score.

    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!


    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.

    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the
    crossbar.

    Redeems himself and gets the Tugas on board, great team goal. And almost
    adds another one immediately afterwards.


    Jo|uo F|-lix :-(
    Salzburg were the better team in the second half.


    First ever goal for the Jogo as Casemiro saves Real in the 93rd minute.

    Standings after the Tuesday matches:
    Tugas 3
    Bungs, Jogo, Pact, Peaceniks, Watch 1
    Everybody else at 0
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 04:21:52 2020
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:24:53 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 5:10:33 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Show of hands - who would have known that Berisha's goal right now would have
    counted for the Watch?

    Not me. By the way, this is the first goal scored by Watch forward (up to now only midfielders had found the net)

    And it stays that way after all, as UEFA strike again - they've assigned an own goal to Felipe...


    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 10:07:19 2020
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 11:41:50 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 4:31:06 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Darmian, Florenzi
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean

    Lazio has had a COVID outbreak, no Immobile and several others. Darmian unlikely to start now that Hakimi is back. Updated Armata:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Frabotta
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa (c), Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean, Petagna
    Bonucci is apparently fit, and his return pushes both Frabotta *and* Chiesa out of the lineup. Go figure. Bonucci in for Frabotta, captain's armband goes from Chiesa to Kean. Updated Armata:
    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean (c), Petagna
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 10:16:56 2020
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Pact
    DF: Rakitskyi, Mario Fernandes, Orban
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Hagi, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis, Despodov


    Some tinkering:

    DF: Mykolenko, Orban, Mario Fernandes
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Kuchaev, Mkhitaryan,
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Supriaha, Chalov, Yaremchuk

    Reports have Mykolenko not starting, replace with Popov.

    DF: Popov, Orban, Mario Fernandes
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Kuchaev, Mkhitaryan,
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Supriaha, Chalov, Yaremchuk
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 10:19:00 2020
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Armata
    DF: Bonucci, Spinazzola, Chiellini, D'Ambrosio
    MF: Barella, Cristante, Jorginho, Beltrame
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano

    Babes
    DF Scholz, Lindel||f, Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov, Eikrem, Hussain, Erikssen
    FW Zlatan, Haaland --, Berg, Omoijuanfo, Poulsen

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    DF: Reguilon, Pique, Navas
    MF: Koke , David Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz, Baena (c)
    FW: Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata

    Pact
    DF: Rakitskyi, Mario Fernandes, Orban
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Hagi, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis, Despodov

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: Davies, Herrera, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano, Pulisic, David (C), Bailey, Corona

    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Pepe
    MF: Bruno Fernades-- , Danilo, Gabriel, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Ricardo Horta, Rony Lopes, Trinc|uo, Rafa Silva

    Waffles/Windmills
    DF: Meunier, Castagne, De Vrij
    MF Wijnaldum, Vanaken, A. Witsel, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku --, Carrasco, Mertens, Luuk De Jong, Doku

    Watch
    DF: Hummels, Sule, Can
    MF: Goretzka, Reus, Kroos, Havertz, G||tze
    FW: Sane, Werner, M|+ller(C), Waldschmidt
    Should probably make some changes to the team formerly known as The Mark Marin Watch, seems I am missing a lot of scorers. As for today, Can is out, so bring in Rudiger. Keep the Europa cup players this week, even though I am against using players from that cup.

    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 11:37:36 2020
    On 2020-10-27 13:52, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-27 11:50, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-26 13:48, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-25 18:04, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default
    lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Europeans have moved back to standard time (I think ?) whereas Norte
    Americanos are still on daylight savings time (except in places like
    Saskatchewan and Creston BC).-a As for antipodeans and others, I have
    not been following...


    Armata
    DF: Bonucci, Spinazzola, Chiellini, D'Ambrosio
    MF: Barella, Cristante, Jorginho, Beltrame
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano

    Babes
    DF Scholz, Lindel||f, Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov, Eikrem, Hussain, Erikssen
    FW Zlatan, Haaland --, Berg, Omoijuanfo, Poulsen

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    DF: Reguilon, Pique, Navas

    Pique is suspended so in with Ramos and out with Pique.

    MF: Koke , David Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz, Baena (c)

    Baena out and not Captain.-a Add Isco instead.

    FW: Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata

    For now, Morata as captain.-a Lots of chopping and changing and a
    final lineup for tomorrow around 11:30 tomorrow

    Update coming at 1:45 PM our time

    ISco out , Asensio in.

    New Lineup

    D: Ramos, REguilon, Navas
    MF: Koke, D. Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz,
    F: Asensio, Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata (C)



    Pact
    DF: Rakitskyi, Mario Fernandes, Orban
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Hagi, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis, Despodov

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF:-a Davies, Herrera, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW:-a Lozano, Pulisic, David (C),-a Bailey, Corona

    MAke Pulisic captain.

    Davies out for 2 months.-a Replace with Giovanni Reyna (USA and Dortmund)


    Herrera not in lineup.-a Replace with McKennie. Juventus and USA


    DF:-a Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: McKennie, Arfield, ALvarez, Reyna
    FW:-a Lozano, Pulisic (C), David, Bailey, Corona

    Crap, Pulisic on the bench. Change captain to ...Lozano.


    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Pepe
    MF: Bruno Fernades-- , Danilo, Gabriel, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Ricardo Horta, Rony Lopes, Trinc|uo, Rafa Silva

    Waffles/Windmills
    DF:-a Meunier, Castagne, De Vrij
    MF-a-a Wijnaldum, Vanaken, A. Witsel, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku --,-a Carrasco, Mertens, Luuk De Jong, Doku


    Some changes will be made, but not yet.


    Witsel out DeBruyne in.
    Carrasco out , Origi (Liverpool) in.

    Well that accomplished nothing whatsoever. Watch Witsel score now


    Watch
    DF: Hummels, Sule, Can
    MF: Goretzka, Reus, Kroos, Havertz, G||tze
    FW: Sane, Werner, M|+ller(C), Waldschmidt

    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++




    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 12:34:00 2020
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 6:43:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 5:54:46 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:45:30 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:41:45 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:14:36 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:22:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:35:47 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler
    wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern really is a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the
    penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out
    Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score.

    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!


    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.

    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the
    crossbar.

    Redeems himself and gets the Tugas on board, great team goal. And almost
    adds another one immediately afterwards.


    Jo|uo F|-lix :-(
    Salzburg were the better team in the second half.


    First ever goal for the Jogo as Casemiro saves Real in the 93rd minute.


    Standings after the Tuesday matches:

    Tugas 3
    Bungs, Jogo, Pact, Peaceniks, Watch 1
    Everybody else at 0
    Jorginho misses a penalty (the only reason he's in the team, minchione mancato!), but Captain Kean scores one for the Armata.
    Then Chelsea get a second penalty, and this time it's Werner to slot it home. Bad also for FPL purposes.
    Ziyech scores one for the Peaceniks.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 12:35:38 2020
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 3:34:02 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 6:43:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 5:54:46 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:45:30 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:41:45 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:14:36 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:22:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:35:47 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler
    wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern
    really is a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the
    penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out
    Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score.

    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!


    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.

    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the
    crossbar.

    Redeems himself and gets the Tugas on board, great team goal. And almost
    adds another one immediately afterwards.


    Jo|uo F|-lix :-(
    Salzburg were the better team in the second half.


    First ever goal for the Jogo as Casemiro saves Real in the 93rd minute.


    Standings after the Tuesday matches:

    Tugas 3
    Bungs, Jogo, Pact, Peaceniks, Watch 1
    Everybody else at 0

    Jorginho misses a penalty (the only reason he's in the team, minchione mancato!), but Captain Kean scores one for the Armata.

    Then Chelsea get a second penalty, and this time it's Werner to slot it home. Bad also for FPL purposes.

    Ziyech scores one for the Peaceniks.
    Second goal by Kean, and the Armata jumps to the top of the standings.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 12:54:30 2020
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 20:45:16 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 01:04:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Vardy back in for the moment instead of Goldson.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane (c), Vardy
    Didn't have time to tinker and it cost me as starter Hudson-Odoi scored and Mount didn't.
    Rashford on the bench and Greenwood starting... oh well, let's switch them.
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Milner, Greenwood, Maddison, Saka
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Kane (c), Vardy


    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++

    Ulmer, Fassnacht out
    Sabitzer, Shaqiri in
    Sabitzer captain again

    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Shaqiri
    FW: Sabitzer (c), Kara, Gavranovi-c, Ragu++
    Sabitzer only on the bench. Can't afford to cut him loose, but captaincy to Ragu++.
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Shaqiri, Baumgartner, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Gavranovi-c, Ragu++ (c)
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 13:57:58 2020
    On 2020-10-28 11:37, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-27 13:52, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-27 11:50, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-26 13:48, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-25 18:04, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default
    lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Europeans have moved back to standard time (I think ?) whereas Norte
    Americanos are still on daylight savings time (except in places like
    Saskatchewan and Creston BC).-a As for antipodeans and others, I have >>>> not been following...


    Armata
    DF: Bonucci, Spinazzola, Chiellini, D'Ambrosio
    MF: Barella, Cristante, Jorginho, Beltrame
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano

    Babes
    DF Scholz, Lindel||f, Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov, Eikrem, Hussain, Erikssen
    FW Zlatan, Haaland --, Berg, Omoijuanfo, Poulsen

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    DF: Reguilon, Pique, Navas

    Pique is suspended so in with Ramos and out with Pique.

    MF: Koke , David Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz, Baena (c)

    Baena out and not Captain.-a Add Isco instead.

    FW: Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata

    For now, Morata as captain.-a Lots of chopping and changing and a
    final lineup for tomorrow around 11:30 tomorrow

    Update coming at 1:45 PM our time

    ISco out , Asensio in.

    New Lineup

    D: Ramos, REguilon, Navas
    MF: Koke, D. Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz,
    F: Asensio, Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata (C)

    Molina out, Pedri (Barca) in.




    Pact
    DF: Rakitskyi, Mario Fernandes, Orban
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Hagi, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis, Despodov

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF:-a Davies, Herrera, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW:-a Lozano, Pulisic, David (C),-a Bailey, Corona

    MAke Pulisic captain.

    Davies out for 2 months.-a Replace with Giovanni Reyna (USA and Dortmund) >>>

    Herrera not in lineup.-a Replace with McKennie. Juventus and USA


    DF:-a Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: McKennie, Arfield, ALvarez, Reyna
    FW:-a Lozano, Pulisic (C), David, Bailey, Corona

    Crap, Pulisic on the bench.-a Change captain to ...Lozano.

    Shoulda left him as captain. Well at least the Rockers broke their duck.


    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Pepe
    MF: Bruno Fernades-- , Danilo, Gabriel, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Ricardo Horta, Rony Lopes, Trinc|uo, Rafa Silva

    Waffles/Windmills
    DF:-a Meunier, Castagne, De Vrij
    MF-a-a Wijnaldum, Vanaken, A. Witsel, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku --,-a Carrasco, Mertens, Luuk De Jong, Doku


    Some changes will be made, but not yet.


    Witsel out DeBruyne in.
    Carrasco out , Origi (Liverpool) in.

    Well that accomplished nothing whatsoever. Watch Witsel score now


    Watch
    DF: Hummels, Sule, Can
    MF: Goretzka, Reus, Kroos, Havertz, G||tze
    FW: Sane, Werner, M|+ller(C), Waldschmidt

    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++





    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 13:24:03 2020
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:54:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 20:45:16 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 01:04:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Vardy back in for the moment instead of Goldson.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane (c), Vardy

    Didn't have time to tinker and it cost me as starter Hudson-Odoi scored and Mount didn't.

    Rashford on the bench and Greenwood starting... oh well, let's switch them.

    Ha!

    Looked quite offside tbh... but VAR validated it.


    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 15:30:26 2020
    On 2020-10-28 13:35, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 3:34:02 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 6:43:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 5:54:46 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>> On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:45:30 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:41:45 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:14:36 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>>> On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:22:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:35:47 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:32:24 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 3:20:22 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:45:30 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:11:27 PM UTC-4, Werner >>>>>>>>>>>> Pichler wrote:

    Lok Moscow had actually started quite strong, but Bayern >>>>>>>>>>>>> really is a well-oiled machine.

    Well-oiled machine or not, but WHERE ARE COMRADE ROBERT'S >>>>>>>>>>>> GOALS? I smell here some CIA subterfuge

    You might be on to something. Lewa had already lined up for the >>>>>>>>>>> penalty when VAR found an offside in the build-up.



    To add insult to injury, one of the Miranchuks scores a left-out >>>>>>>>>> Pact goal.

    The minute Lok wasted two sitters I knew Bayern would score. >>>>>>>>>
    Kimmich hasn't been picked?!


    Left-out goals by F|ibio Vieira and Ferr|in Torres.

    Jo|uo F|-lix with a contender for goal of the year, but it went off the
    crossbar.

    Redeems himself and gets the Tugas on board, great team goal. And almost
    adds another one immediately afterwards.


    Jo|uo F|-lix :-(
    Salzburg were the better team in the second half.


    First ever goal for the Jogo as Casemiro saves Real in the 93rd minute. >>>>

    Standings after the Tuesday matches:

    Tugas 3
    Bungs, Jogo, Pact, Peaceniks, Watch 1
    Everybody else at 0

    Jorginho misses a penalty (the only reason he's in the team, minchione mancato!), but Captain Kean scores one for the Armata.

    Then Chelsea get a second penalty, and this time it's Werner to slot it home. Bad also for FPL purposes.

    Ziyech scores one for the Peaceniks.

    Second goal by Kean, and the Armata jumps to the top of the standings.

    Everton and Juve reject starring for PSG ? Something seems wrong there.

    Luuk and Hans get the Windmills whirling. The others are still
    waffling. But both Hazards seem to have returned to health and were on
    the bench for this round.
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 14:34:54 2020
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 21:24:05 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:54:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 20:45:16 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 01:04:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Vardy back in for the moment instead of Goldson.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane (c), Vardy

    Didn't have time to tinker and it cost me as starter Hudson-Odoi scored and Mount didn't.

    Rashford on the bench and Greenwood starting... oh well, let's switch them.

    Ha!

    Looked quite offside tbh... but VAR validated it.

    Dammit, they both scored.


    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 14:37:54 2020
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:34:55 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 21:24:05 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:54:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 20:45:16 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 01:04:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Vardy back in for the moment instead of Goldson.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane (c), Vardy

    Didn't have time to tinker and it cost me as starter Hudson-Odoi scored and Mount didn't.

    Rashford on the bench and Greenwood starting... oh well, let's switch them.

    Ha!

    Looked quite offside tbh... but VAR validated it.

    Dammit, they both scored.

    Correction, Rashford scored twice. Argh!!

    At least Sancho also got one from the spot.


    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 14:51:37 2020
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:37:56 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:34:55 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 21:24:05 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:54:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 20:45:16 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 01:04:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups
    the ones that ended MD1.

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Vardy back in for the moment instead of Goldson.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane (c), Vardy

    Didn't have time to tinker and it cost me as starter Hudson-Odoi scored and Mount didn't.

    Rashford on the bench and Greenwood starting... oh well, let's switch them.

    Ha!

    Looked quite offside tbh... but VAR validated it.

    Dammit, they both scored.

    Correction, Rashford scored twice. Argh!!

    Note to myself: you don't dismiss Rashford when there's a high likelihood he comes off the bench with fresh legs against a defence that's pushing up.

    This hat trick hurts!


    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 16:08:55 2020
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 5:10:33 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Show of hands - who would have known that Berisha's goal right now would have counted for the Watch?


    Second show of hands - who would have known that Tokamc Guen's goal for Ferencvaros would have counted for the Babes?
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Oct 28 16:15:43 2020
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 3:35:40 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Second goal by Kean, and the Armata jumps to the top of the standings.

    Standings after the Wedenesday matches (as usual, please let me know if there are any mistakes)

    Armata 4 (Kean 2(x2))
    Bungs 3 (Sterling, Greenwood, Sancho)
    Tugas 3 (Joao Felix 2, Diogo Jota)
    Pact 2 (Szoboszlai, Tsygankov)
    Peaceniks 2 (Salah, Ziyech)
    Waffles/Windmills 2 (Vanaken, Luuk De Jong)
    Watch 2 (Goretzka, Werner)
    Jogo 1 (Casemiro)
    Rockers 1 (Pulisic)
    Babes, Midgets, Wonderland 0

    Morata had a hattrick of disallowed goals, adding to his tally of two from Serie A. But really, Barca should have won by a much larger margin.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 02:43:52 2020
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 7:15:45 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 3:35:40 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Second goal by Kean, and the Armata jumps to the top of the standings.

    Standings after the Wedenesday matches (as usual, please let me know if there are any mistakes)

    Sorry, missed the Haaland goal. Corrected standings:


    Armata 4 (Kean 2(x2))
    Bungs 3 (Sterling, Greenwood, Sancho)
    Tugas 3 (Joao Felix 2, Diogo Jota)
    Babes 2 (Haaland (x2))
    Pact 2 (Szoboszlai, Tsygankov)
    Peaceniks 2 (Salah, Ziyech)
    Waffles/Windmills 2 (Vanaken, Luuk De Jong)
    Watch 2 (Goretzka, Werner)
    Jogo 1 (Casemiro)
    Rockers 1 (Pulisic)
    Babes, Midgets, Wonderland 0



    Morata had a hattrick of disallowed goals, adding to his tally of two from Serie A. But really, Barca should have won by a much larger margin.
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 10:31:34 2020
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:54:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 20:45:16 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 01:04:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Vardy back in for the moment instead of Goldson.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane (c), Vardy

    Didn't have time to tinker and it cost me as starter Hudson-Odoi scored and Mount didn't.

    Rashford on the bench and Greenwood starting... oh well, let's switch them.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Milner, Greenwood, Maddison, Saka
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Kane (c), Vardy
    How to recover from yesterday's d|-b|ocle?
    Kane on the bench again, might not even play a minute, just like last week. Save us Captain Vardy!
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Milner, Greenwood, Maddison, Saka
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Kane, Vardy (c)
    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++

    Ulmer, Fassnacht out
    Sabitzer, Shaqiri in
    Sabitzer captain again

    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Shaqiri
    FW: Sabitzer (c), Kara, Gavranovi-c, Ragu++

    Sabitzer only on the bench. Can't afford to cut him loose, but captaincy to Ragu++.

    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Shaqiri, Baumgartner, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Gavranovi-c, Ragu++ (c)
    Tough matchday for the Wonderland. Sabitzer did nothing except giving up a penalty. Gavranovi-c and Baumgartner start on the bench.
    Replace Baumgartner with Ritzmaier (Rapid) and Gavranovi-c with Fassnacht (YB). Gut feeling: replace Liendl with his WAC teammate Taferner.
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Shaqiri, Taferner, Ritzmaier, Fassnacht
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Ragu++ (c)
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 10:41:45 2020
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 6:40:45 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:55:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 9:15:07 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: Hakimi, Mazraoui, Bensebaini
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah (c), Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

    Salah and Mahrez starting on the bench? All we are saying, is give peace a chance, but nobody's listening...

    Dabbur promoted to captain.

    Should have stuck to my promise of low maintenance...bumbling Peaceniks miss another opportunity

    Dabbur not starting, could replace with Belfodil or Ansarifard...but I'll stick with the Europa League scoring machine, including the captain's armband!
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 11:48:01 2020
    On 2020-10-28 13:57, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-28 11:37, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-27 13:52, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-27 11:50, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-26 13:48, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-25 18:04, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default
    lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Europeans have moved back to standard time (I think ?) whereas
    Norte Americanos are still on daylight savings time (except in
    places like Saskatchewan and Creston BC).-a As for antipodeans and
    others, I have not been following...


    Armata
    DF: Bonucci, Spinazzola, Chiellini, D'Ambrosio
    MF: Barella, Cristante, Jorginho, Beltrame
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano

    Babes
    DF Scholz, Lindel||f, Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov, Eikrem, Hussain, Erikssen
    FW Zlatan, Haaland --, Berg, Omoijuanfo, Poulsen

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    DF: Reguilon, Pique, Navas

    Pique is suspended so in with Ramos and out with Pique.

    MF: Koke , David Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz, Baena (c)

    Baena out and not Captain.-a Add Isco instead.

    FW: Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata

    For now, Morata as captain.-a Lots of chopping and changing and a
    final lineup for tomorrow around 11:30 tomorrow

    Update coming at 1:45 PM our time

    ISco out , Asensio in.

    New Lineup

    D: Ramos, REguilon, Navas
    MF: Koke, D. Silva, Oyarzabal, Fabian Ruiz,
    F: Asensio, Molina, Fati, Alcacer, Morata (C)

    Molina out, Pedri (Barca) in.

    Brahim Diaz, Milan, in for Fabian Ruiz





    Pact
    DF: Rakitskyi, Mario Fernandes, Orban
    MF: Tsygankov, Szoboszlai, Hagi, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis, Despodov

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF:-a Davies, Herrera, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW:-a Lozano, Pulisic, David (C),-a Bailey, Corona

    MAke Pulisic captain.

    Davies out for 2 months.-a Replace with Giovanni Reyna (USA and
    Dortmund)


    Herrera not in lineup.-a Replace with McKennie. Juventus and USA


    DF:-a Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: McKennie, Arfield, ALvarez, Reyna
    FW:-a Lozano, Pulisic (C), David, Bailey, Corona

    Crap, Pulisic on the bench.-a Change captain to ...Lozano.

    Shoulda left him as captain.-a Well at least the Rockers broke their duck.


    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Pepe
    MF: Bruno Fernades-- , Danilo, Gabriel, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Ricardo Horta, Rony Lopes, Trinc|uo, Rafa Silva

    Waffles/Windmills
    DF:-a Meunier, Castagne, De Vrij
    MF-a-a Wijnaldum, Vanaken, A. Witsel, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku --,-a Carrasco, Mertens, Luuk De Jong, Doku


    Some changes will be made, but not yet.


    Witsel out DeBruyne in.
    Carrasco out , Origi (Liverpool) in.

    Well that accomplished nothing whatsoever. Watch Witsel score now

    Castagne out, Botman (Lille( in.


    Watch
    DF: Hummels, Sule, Can
    MF: Goretzka, Reus, Kroos, Havertz, G||tze
    FW: Sane, Werner, M|+ller(C), Waldschmidt

    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++






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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 10:55:07 2020
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:41:48 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 6:40:45 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:55:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 9:15:07 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: Hakimi, Mazraoui, Bensebaini
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah (c), Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

    Salah and Mahrez starting on the bench? All we are saying, is give peace a chance, but nobody's listening...

    Dabbur promoted to captain.

    Should have stuck to my promise of low maintenance...bumbling Peaceniks miss another opportunity

    Dabbur not starting, could replace with Belfodil or Ansarifard...but I'll stick with the Europa League scoring machine, including the captain's armband!

    BTW Zahavi wasn't allowed entry to Cyprus due to COVID-19 shenanigans.

    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 10:59:35 2020
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:31:37 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:54:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 20:45:16 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 01:04:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the
    ones that ended MD1.

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Vardy back in for the moment instead of Goldson.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane (c), Vardy

    Didn't have time to tinker and it cost me as starter Hudson-Odoi scored and Mount didn't.

    Rashford on the bench and Greenwood starting... oh well, let's switch them.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Milner, Greenwood, Maddison, Saka
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Kane (c), Vardy

    How to recover from yesterday's d|-b|ocle?
    Kane on the bench again, might not even play a minute, just like last week. Save us Captain Vardy!

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Milner, Greenwood, Maddison, Saka
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Kane, Vardy (c)


    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++

    Ulmer, Fassnacht out
    Sabitzer, Shaqiri in
    Sabitzer captain again

    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Shaqiri
    FW: Sabitzer (c), Kara, Gavranovi-c, Ragu++

    Sabitzer only on the bench. Can't afford to cut him loose, but captaincy to Ragu++.

    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Shaqiri, Baumgartner, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Gavranovi-c, Ragu++ (c)

    Tough matchday for the Wonderland. Sabitzer did nothing except giving up a penalty. Gavranovi-c and Baumgartner start on the bench.

    Replace Baumgartner with Ritzmaier (Rapid) and Gavranovi-c with Fassnacht (YB).
    Gut feeling: replace Liendl with his WAC teammate Taferner.
    Hahaha, works like a charm! 120 seconds and Liendl scores from the spot!
    I don't mind :)
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 11:00:17 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:55:10 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:41:48 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 6:40:45 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:55:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 9:15:07 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: Hakimi, Mazraoui, Bensebaini
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah (c), Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

    Salah and Mahrez starting on the bench? All we are saying, is give peace
    a chance, but nobody's listening...

    Dabbur promoted to captain.

    Should have stuck to my promise of low maintenance...bumbling Peaceniks miss another opportunity

    Dabbur not starting, could replace with Belfodil or Ansarifard...but I'll stick with the Europa League scoring machine, including the captain's armband!

    BTW Zahavi wasn't allowed entry to Cyprus due to COVID-19 shenanigans.


    Bugger...I don't think there are many options left in the late matches. Probbaly will have to go with some defender from Hapoel Beer Sheva
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 11:09:04 2020
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:59:38 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:31:37 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:54:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 20:45:16 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 01:04:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the
    ones that ended MD1.

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Vardy back in for the moment instead of Goldson.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane (c), Vardy

    Didn't have time to tinker and it cost me as starter Hudson-Odoi scored and
    Mount didn't.

    Rashford on the bench and Greenwood starting... oh well, let's switch them.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Milner, Greenwood, Maddison, Saka
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Kane (c), Vardy

    How to recover from yesterday's d|-b|ocle?
    Kane on the bench again, might not even play a minute, just like last week. Save us Captain Vardy!

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Milner, Greenwood, Maddison, Saka
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Kane, Vardy (c)


    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++

    Ulmer, Fassnacht out
    Sabitzer, Shaqiri in
    Sabitzer captain again

    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Shaqiri
    FW: Sabitzer (c), Kara, Gavranovi-c, Ragu++

    Sabitzer only on the bench. Can't afford to cut him loose, but captaincy to
    Ragu++.

    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Shaqiri, Baumgartner, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Gavranovi-c, Ragu++ (c)

    Tough matchday for the Wonderland. Sabitzer did nothing except giving up a penalty. Gavranovi-c and Baumgartner start on the bench.

    Replace Baumgartner with Ritzmaier (Rapid) and Gavranovi-c with Fassnacht (YB).
    Gut feeling: replace Liendl with his WAC teammate Taferner.


    Hahaha, works like a charm! 120 seconds and Liendl scores from the spot!

    I don't mind :)
    12 minutes in, and Liendl gets another from the spot.
    I have no idea how this game and my choices do this, but it's pretty incredible.
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 11:10:54 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:31:37 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Tough matchday for the Wonderland. Sabitzer did nothing except giving up a penalty. Gavranovi-c and Baumgartner start on the bench.
    Perfect anti-weaufx, with Wonderland players already with three goals in the first 15 minutes. Unfortunately, none of them was picked...
    Paulinho's goal helps the Tugas reach top spot.
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 11:14:33 2020
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:10:58 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:31:37 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:


    Tough matchday for the Wonderland. Sabitzer did nothing except giving up a penalty. Gavranovi-c and Baumgartner start on the bench.

    Perfect anti-weaufx, with Wonderland players already with three
    Four. Bali-c is Austrian, too.
    Manu counts for the Windmills BTW.
    goals in the first 15 minutes. Unfortunately, none of them was picked...
    As I said, I can live with it!
    Paulinho's goal helps the Tugas reach top spot.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 11:16:50 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:14:38 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:10:58 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:31:37 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:


    Tough matchday for the Wonderland. Sabitzer did nothing except giving up a
    penalty. Gavranovi-c and Baumgartner start on the bench.

    Perfect anti-weaufx, with Wonderland players already with three

    Four. Bali-c is Austrian, too.
    I had counted him, didn't yet see Liendl's second when I posted this.
    Manu counts for the Windmills BTW.
    Yep.

    Paulinho's goal helps the Tugas reach top spot.
    Not for long. Captain Vardy's goal helps the Bungs leapfrog past the Armata and Tugas.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 11:34:00 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:14:38 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:10:58 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:31:37 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:


    Tough matchday for the Wonderland. Sabitzer did nothing except giving up a
    penalty. Gavranovi-c and Baumgartner start on the bench.

    Perfect anti-weaufx, with Wonderland players already with three
    It's now an Alpine Avalanche, and Captain Raguz gets the Wonderland finally on the board.
    Also Refaelov add one to the Peaceniks's tally, and Brahim Diaz gets the Midgets on the board. All teams with at least one goal.
    On the other hand, the Babes will be upset that Elyounoussi was left off the squad.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 11:43:00 2020
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:34:03 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:


    On the other hand, the Babes will be upset that Elyounoussi was left off the squad.

    Also that Zlatan nonchalantly fired a penalty against the crossbar.

    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 11:51:31 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:00:20 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:55:10 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:41:48 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 6:40:45 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:55:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 9:15:07 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: Hakimi, Mazraoui, Bensebaini
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah (c), Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

    Salah and Mahrez starting on the bench? All we are saying, is give peace
    a chance, but nobody's listening...

    Dabbur promoted to captain.

    Should have stuck to my promise of low maintenance...bumbling Peaceniks miss another opportunity

    Dabbur not starting, could replace with Belfodil or Ansarifard...but I'll
    stick with the Europa League scoring machine, including the captain's armband!

    BTW Zahavi wasn't allowed entry to Cyprus due to COVID-19 shenanigans.


    Bugger...I don't think there are many options left in the late matches. Probbaly will have to go with some defender from Hapoel Beer Sheva

    Sallalich in for Zahavi. I'll keep Taarabt in even if not starting.


    DF: Hakimi, Mazraoui, Bensebaini
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt, Sallalich
    FW: Salah (c), Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 11:56:41 2020
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 1:07:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 11:41:50 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 4:31:06 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Darmian, Florenzi
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean

    Lazio has had a COVID outbreak, no Immobile and several others. Darmian unlikely to start now that Hakimi is back. Updated Armata:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Frabotta
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa (c), Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean, Petagna

    Bonucci is apparently fit, and his return pushes both Frabotta *and* Chiesa out of the lineup. Go figure. Bonucci in for Frabotta, captain's armband goes from Chiesa to Kean. Updated Armata:


    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean (c), Petagna
    Pellegrini out, Cristante in.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 12:04:32 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:56:43 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 1:07:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 11:41:50 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 4:31:06 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Darmian, Florenzi
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean

    Lazio has had a COVID outbreak, no Immobile and several others. Darmian unlikely to start now that Hakimi is back. Updated Armata:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Frabotta
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa (c), Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean, Petagna

    Bonucci is apparently fit, and his return pushes both Frabotta *and* Chiesa out of the lineup. Go figure. Bonucci in for Frabotta, captain's armband goes from Chiesa to Kean. Updated Armata:


    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean (c), Petagna

    Pellegrini out, Cristante in.
    Crvenz Zvezda piling it on, but still no goals for Falcinelli. Shocking that a journeyman striker with a grand total of 52 goals across 13 professional spell can't help to the Armata's cause.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 12:05:05 2020
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:31:37 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:54:32 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 20:45:16 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, 26 October 2020 01:04:10 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back already, and so is Use-the-NT. Default lineups the ones that ended MD1.

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Goldson, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Harry Kane (C),

    Vardy back in for the moment instead of Goldson.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Maddison, Saka, Milner
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Kane (c), Vardy

    Didn't have time to tinker and it cost me as starter Hudson-Odoi scored and Mount didn't.

    Rashford on the bench and Greenwood starting... oh well, let's switch them.

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Milner, Greenwood, Maddison, Saka
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Kane (c), Vardy

    How to recover from yesterday's d|-b|ocle?
    Kane on the bench again, might not even play a minute, just like last week. Save us Captain Vardy!

    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Milner, Greenwood, Maddison, Saka
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Kane, Vardy (c)
    Mou made 4 subs at half-time, and still no Kane. F*** that guy.
    Saka out, Nketiah in.
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Milner, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Sterling, Sancho, Kane, Vardy (c), Nketiah

    Wonderland
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Ulmer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Fassnacht
    FW: Kara, Gavranovi-c (C), Ragu++

    Ulmer, Fassnacht out
    Sabitzer, Shaqiri in
    Sabitzer captain again

    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Baumgartner, Liendl, Shaqiri
    FW: Sabitzer (c), Kara, Gavranovi-c, Ragu++

    Sabitzer only on the bench. Can't afford to cut him loose, but captaincy to Ragu++.

    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Shaqiri, Baumgartner, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Gavranovi-c, Ragu++ (c)

    Tough matchday for the Wonderland. Sabitzer did nothing except giving up a penalty. Gavranovi-c and Baumgartner start on the bench.

    Replace Baumgartner with Ritzmaier (Rapid) and Gavranovi-c with Fassnacht (YB). Gut feeling: replace Liendl with his WAC teammate Taferner.

    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Shaqiri, Taferner, Ritzmaier, Fassnacht
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Ragu++ (c)
    Next left-out Wonderland goal, Grillitsch. Incredible.
    Let's replace Fassnacht with Murg, just because.
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Shaqiri, Taferner, Ritzmaier, Murg
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Ragu++ (c)
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 12:14:00 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:05:07 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Next left-out Wonderland goal, Grillitsch. Incredible.

    Another one by Balic, another one by Liendl...
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 12:16:33 2020
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:14:02 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:05:07 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Next left-out Wonderland goal, Grillitsch. Incredible.

    Another one by Balic, another one by Liendl...

    Liendl hat trick. Amazing. He's 35.


    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 12:19:06 2020
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:16:35 UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:14:02 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:05:07 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Next left-out Wonderland goal, Grillitsch. Incredible.

    Another one by Balic, another one by Liendl...

    Liendl hat trick. Amazing. He's 35.
    Liendl forgoes a fourth and leaves WAC's third penalty to Jovelji-c to boost the
    youngsters self-confidence. What a hero!
    Feyenoord-WAC 1-4
    One better than M||nchengladbach.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 12:23:25 2020
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:04:35 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:56:43 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 1:07:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 11:41:50 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 4:31:06 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Darmian, Florenzi
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean

    Lazio has had a COVID outbreak, no Immobile and several others. Darmian unlikely to start now that Hakimi is back. Updated Armata:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Frabotta
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa (c), Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean, Petagna

    Bonucci is apparently fit, and his return pushes both Frabotta *and* Chiesa out of the lineup. Go figure. Bonucci in for Frabotta, captain's armband goes from Chiesa to Kean. Updated Armata:


    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean (c), Petagna

    Pellegrini out, Cristante in.

    Crvenz Zvezda piling it on, but still no goals for Falcinelli. Shocking that a journeyman striker with a grand total of 52 goals across 13 professional spell can't help to the Armata's cause.
    I honestly believe the Godz of Football read all this.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 12:23:53 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:19:07 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Liendl forgoes a fourth and leaves WAC's third penalty to Jovelji-c to boost the
    youngsters self-confidence. What a hero!
    For a bit I suspected that he too may count for the Wonderland, but alas, he is actually Serbian.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 12:29:41 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:23:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:04:35 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:56:43 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 1:07:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 11:41:50 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 4:31:06 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Darmian, Florenzi
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean

    Lazio has had a COVID outbreak, no Immobile and several others. Darmian unlikely to start now that Hakimi is back. Updated Armata:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Frabotta
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa (c), Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean, Petagna

    Bonucci is apparently fit, and his return pushes both Frabotta *and* Chiesa out of the lineup. Go figure. Bonucci in for Frabotta, captain's armband goes from Chiesa to Kean. Updated Armata:


    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean (c), Petagna

    Pellegrini out, Cristante in.

    Crvenz Zvezda piling it on, but still no goals for Falcinelli. Shocking that
    a journeyman striker with a grand total of 52 goals across 13 professional spell can't help to the Armata's cause.

    I honestly believe the Godz of Football read all this.

    The Godz of Football are obviously the opium of the people and a late-capitalist-imperialist creation, because stupid CSKA can't buy a single goal at home against Dinamo Zagreb....
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 12:49:17 2020
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:29:43 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:23:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:04:35 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:56:43 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 1:07:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 11:41:50 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 4:31:06 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Darmian, Florenzi
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean

    Lazio has had a COVID outbreak, no Immobile and several others. Darmian unlikely to start now that Hakimi is back. Updated Armata:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Frabotta
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa (c), Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean, Petagna

    Bonucci is apparently fit, and his return pushes both Frabotta *and* Chiesa out of the lineup. Go figure. Bonucci in for Frabotta, captain's armband goes from Chiesa to Kean. Updated Armata:


    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean (c), Petagna

    Pellegrini out, Cristante in.

    Crvenz Zvezda piling it on, but still no goals for Falcinelli. Shocking that a journeyman striker with a grand total of 52 goals across 13 professional spell can't help to the Armata's cause.

    I honestly believe the Godz of Football read all this.


    The Godz of Football are obviously the opium of the people and a late- capitalist-imperialist creation, because stupid CSKA can't buy a single goal at home against Dinamo Zagreb....
    But they granted a garbage time goal to Dabbur!
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 12:56:57 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:23:55 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:19:07 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Liendl forgoes a fourth and leaves WAC's third penalty to Jovelji-c to boost the
    youngsters self-confidence. What a hero!

    For a bit I suspected that he too may count for the Wonderland, but alas, he is actually Serbian.
    Baumgartner scores in injury time to further reward Werner's tinkering. That's 9 Alpine goals in just one batch of matches (actually, 9 Austrian goals, the Swiss were happily riding this out from the sidelines...)
    Elsewhere, two late goals by Alcacer put the Midgets in the bonus points. This could have implications for the overall standings.
    Standings before the last batch of matches:
    Armata and Bungs 5
    Tugas 4
    Peaceniks and Midgets 3
    Babes, Pact, Waffles, Watch and Wonderland 2
    Jogo and Rockers 1
    Bungs with the Rangers guys and Eddie Nketiah against Dundalk left.
    Armata with two Napoli and two Roma players.
    Tugas with some Benfica players in it.
    Midgets with David Silva and Oyarzabal
    I think it will be between these.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 12:59:32 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:49:20 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:29:43 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:23:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:04:35 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:56:43 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 1:07:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 11:41:50 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 4:31:06 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Darmian, Florenzi
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean

    Lazio has had a COVID outbreak, no Immobile and several others. Darmian unlikely to start now that Hakimi is back. Updated Armata:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Frabotta
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa (c), Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean, Petagna

    Bonucci is apparently fit, and his return pushes both Frabotta *and*
    Chiesa out of the lineup. Go figure. Bonucci in for Frabotta, captain's armband goes from Chiesa to Kean. Updated Armata:


    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean (c), Petagna

    Pellegrini out, Cristante in.

    Crvenz Zvezda piling it on, but still no goals for Falcinelli. Shocking that a journeyman striker with a grand total of 52 goals across 13 professional spell can't help to the Armata's cause.

    I honestly believe the Godz of Football read all this.


    The Godz of Football are obviously the opium of the people and a late- capitalist-imperialist creation, because stupid CSKA can't buy a single goal
    at home against Dinamo Zagreb....

    But they granted a garbage time goal to Dabbur!

    Wait, what? THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING! (uefa.com still has it as Baumgartner's goal)
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 13:11:07 2020
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:56:59 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:23:55 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:19:07 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Liendl forgoes a fourth and leaves WAC's third penalty to Jovelji-c to boost the youngsters self-confidence. What a hero!

    For a bit I suspected that he too may count for the Wonderland, but alas, he is actually Serbian.

    Baumgartner scores in injury time to further reward Werner's tinkering. That's 9 Alpine goals in just one batch of matches (actually, 9 Austrian goals, the Swiss were happily riding this out from the sidelines...)
    I read this and was seriously confused, because I had just watched Dabbur score... uefa.com can't be trusted!
    Also, it's 7 goals since they also turned Bali-c's twice-deflected shot into
    a Bulgarian own goal.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 13:14:39 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:59:34 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:49:20 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:29:43 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:23:27 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:04:35 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 2:56:43 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 1:07:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 11:41:50 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 4:31:06 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Darmian, Florenzi
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Immobile --, Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean

    Lazio has had a COVID outbreak, no Immobile and several others. Darmian unlikely to start now that Hakimi is back. Updated Armata:

    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Frabotta
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa (c), Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean, Petagna

    Bonucci is apparently fit, and his return pushes both Frabotta *and*
    Chiesa out of the lineup. Go figure. Bonucci in for Frabotta, captain's armband goes from Chiesa to Kean. Updated Armata:


    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Lo. Pellegrini, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Insigne, Kean (c), Petagna

    Pellegrini out, Cristante in.

    Crvenz Zvezda piling it on, but still no goals for Falcinelli. Shocking
    that a journeyman striker with a grand total of 52 goals across 13 professional spell can't help to the Armata's cause.

    I honestly believe the Godz of Football read all this.


    The Godz of Football are obviously the opium of the people and a late- capitalist-imperialist creation, because stupid CSKA can't buy a single goal
    at home against Dinamo Zagreb....

    But they granted a garbage time goal to Dabbur!


    Wait, what? THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING! (uefa.com still has it as Baumgartner's goal)
    I don't know what those warmongers at UEFA were drinking, it's definitely Dabbur's goal.
    So we should have a three-way tie at the top. Dramatic finale to Match Day 2 --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 20:33:51 2020
    On 2020-10-29, Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:34:03 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:


    On the other hand, the Babes will be upset that Elyounoussi was left off the >> squad.

    Also that Zlatan nonchalantly fired a penalty against the crossbar.

    I'm bringing Christian II back!
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 13:52:34 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:56:59 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:23:55 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:19:07 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Liendl forgoes a fourth and leaves WAC's third penalty to Jovelji-c to boost the
    youngsters self-confidence. What a hero!

    For a bit I suspected that he too may count for the Wonderland, but alas, he is actually Serbian.

    Baumgartner scores in injury time to further reward Werner's tinkering. That's 9 Alpine goals in just one batch of matches (actually, 9 Austrian goals, the Swiss were happily riding this out from the sidelines...)

    Elsewhere, two late goals by Alcacer put the Midgets in the bonus points. This could have implications for the overall standings.

    Standings before the last batch of matches:

    Armata and Bungs 5
    Tugas 4
    Peaceniks and Midgets 3
    Babes, Pact, Waffles, Watch and Wonderland 2
    Jogo and Rockers 1

    Bungs with the Rangers guys and Eddie Nketiah against Dundalk left.
    Armata with two Napoli and two Roma players.
    Tugas with some Benfica players in it.
    Midgets with David Silva and Oyarzabal

    I think it will be between these.
    Nketiah fires the Bungs into first place. Lots of 0-0s in the other matches (but still a bunch of left-out goals)
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 14:11:40 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 4:52:37 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:56:59 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:23:55 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:19:07 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Liendl forgoes a fourth and leaves WAC's third penalty to Jovelji-c to boost the
    youngsters self-confidence. What a hero!

    For a bit I suspected that he too may count for the Wonderland, but alas, he is actually Serbian.

    Baumgartner scores in injury time to further reward Werner's tinkering. That's 9 Alpine goals in just one batch of matches (actually, 9 Austrian goals, the Swiss were happily riding this out from the sidelines...)

    Elsewhere, two late goals by Alcacer put the Midgets in the bonus points. This could have implications for the overall standings.

    Standings before the last batch of matches:

    Armata and Bungs 5
    Tugas 4
    Peaceniks and Midgets 3
    Babes, Pact, Waffles, Watch and Wonderland 2
    Jogo and Rockers 1

    Bungs with the Rangers guys and Eddie Nketiah against Dundalk left.
    Armata with two Napoli and two Roma players.
    Tugas with some Benfica players in it.
    Midgets with David Silva and Oyarzabal

    I think it will be between these.

    Nketiah fires the Bungs into first place. Lots of 0-0s in the other matches (but still a bunch of left-out goals)
    Pizzi puts the Tugas in a three-way tie for second place (assuming Dabbur's goal stands).
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 14:30:03 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:05:07 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Let's replace Fassnacht with Murg, just because.

    Because you wanted Fassnacht to score. Well done.

    Elsewhere, the Babes are mounting a furious comeback and are now on 4 goals (Omoijuanfo). Can they break into the top 3?
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 14:34:11 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 5:30:05 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:05:07 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Let's replace Fassnacht with Murg, just because.

    Because you wanted Fassnacht to score. Well done.

    Elsewhere, the Babes are mounting a furious comeback and are now on 4 goals (Omoijuanfo). Can they break into the top 3?

    Another Pizzi goal, and it's a two-way tie at the top!
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 14:36:12 2020
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 22:30:05 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:05:07 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Let's replace Fassnacht with Murg, just because.

    Because you wanted Fassnacht to score. Well done.

    I give up!

    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 14:57:27 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 5:36:13 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, 29 October 2020 22:30:05 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:05:07 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Let's replace Fassnacht with Murg, just because.

    Because you wanted Fassnacht to score. Well done.

    Well, you can console yourself with the fact that Donyell Malen's 92nd minute winner means that the Waffling Windmills match the Wonderland's total for left-out goals on a single day (seven)
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 17:55:14 2020
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:04:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Match Day 2 results and standings. I have calculated everything assuming that Hoffenheim's fourth goal will be given to Dabbur. If UEFA for some reason persists in its mistake, I will recalculate everything.
    Lineups and goals:
    Armata 5
    DF: D'Ambrosio, Spinazzola, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Cristante, Jorginho
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli 1, Insigne, Kean -- 2(x2), Petagna
    Babes 4
    DF: Scholz, Lindel||f, Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF: Skov, Eikrem, Kulusevski, Karlsson 1
    FW: Zlatan, Haaland -- 1 (x2), Dolberg, Omoijuanfo, Ishak
    Bungs 6
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Sessegnon
    MF: Mount, Milner, Greenwood 1, Maddison
    FW: Sterling 1, Sancho 1, Kane, Vardy -- 1 (x2), Nketiah 1
    Jogo 1
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro 1, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo
    Midgets 3
    D: Ramos, Reguilon, Navas
    MF: Koke, D. Silva, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz 1
    F: Asensio, Pedri, Fati, Alcacer 2, Morata (C)
    Pact 2
    DF: Popov, Orban, Mario Fernandes
    MF: Tsygankov 1, Szoboszlai 1, Kuchaev, Mkhitaryan,
    FW: Lewandowski (c), Dzyuba, Supriaha, Chalov, Yaremchuk
    Peaceniks 5
    DF: Hakimi, Mazraoui, Bensebaini
    MF: Ziyech 1, Mahrez, Refaelov 1, Taarabt, Sallalich
    FW: Salah 1, Dabbur -- 1(x2), Azmoun, Solomon
    Rockers 1
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano (c), Pulisic 1, David, Bailey, Corona
    Tugas 6
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Vinagre
    MF: Bruno Fernades--, Pizzi 2, Renato Saches, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix 2, Ricardo Horta, Diogo Jota 1, Paulinho 1, Rafa Silva Waffles/Windmills 2
    DF: Meunier, Botman, De Vrij
    MF Wijnaldum, Vanaken 1, De Bruyne, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku --, Origi, Mertens, Luuk De Jong 1, Doku
    Watch 3
    DF: Hummels, Sule, R|+diger
    MF: Goretzka 1, Reus, Kroos, Havertz, G||tze
    FW: Sane, Werner 1, M|+ller(C), Waldschmidt 1
    Wonderland 2
    DF: Alaba, Lainer, Trauner
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Shaqiri, Taferner, Ritzmaier, Murg
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Ragu++ -- 1(x2)
    Match Day standings and points:
    Bungs 6 + 8 = 14
    Tugas 6 + 8 = 14
    Armata 5 + 3.5 = 8.5
    Peaceniks 5 + 3.5 = 8.5
    Babes 4 + 2 = 6
    Midgets 3 + 0.5 = 3.5
    Watch 3 + 0.5 = 3.5
    Pact 2 + 0 = 2
    Waffles 2 + 0 = 2
    Wonderland 2 + 0 = 2
    Jogo 1 + 0 = 1
    Rockers 1 + 0 = 1
    Overall standings:
    TotGoals TotPoints
    Midgets 9 19.5
    Bungs 9 19
    Tugas 9 19
    Babes 8 15
    Waffles 6 11
    Armata 7 10.5
    Peacenik 5 8.5
    Wonderland 5 7
    Watch 5 5.5
    Pact 3 3
    Jogo 1 1
    Rockers 1 1
    Finally, the Best Lineups:
    Armata 6
    DF:
    MF:
    FW: Kean 2(x2), Falcinelli, Politano
    Babes 11
    DF:
    MF: Gudmundsson 2, Karlsson
    FW: Elyounoussi 2 (x2), Nguen, Haaland, Omoijuanfo, Tankovic
    Bungs 14
    DF:
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Choudhury, Willock, Greenwood
    FW: Rashford 3 (x2), Sterling, Sancho, Vardy, Nketiah
    Jogo 2
    DF:
    MF: Casemiro (x2)
    FW:
    Midgets 9
    DF:
    MF: Ferran Torres, Marcos Llorente, Brahim Diaz, Jordi Gomez
    FW: Alcacer 2 (x2), Pino
    Pact 6
    DF:
    MF: Szoboszlai, Tsygankov, Ivanisenya
    FW: An, Miranchuk (x2), Matousek
    Rockers 2
    DF:
    MF:
    FW: Pulisic (x2)
    Tugas 12
    DF: Dalot
    MF: Fabio Vieira, Pizzi 2
    FW: Jo|uo Felix 2 (x2), Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Rafael Le|uo
    Waffles/Windmills 12
    DF:
    MF: Vanaken, Koopmeiners
    FW: Manu 3 (x2), L. De Jong, Berghuis, Malen 2
    Watch 7
    DF:
    MF: Goretza, Kimmich, G|+ndogan
    FW: Werner (x2), Kleindienst, Waldschmidt
    Wonderland 11
    DF:
    MF: Liendl 3 (x2), Balic, Grillitsch, Fassnacht
    FW: Gruber, Raguz
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 18:11:45 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 8:55:16 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Match Day 2 results and standings. I have calculated everything assuming that Hoffenheim's fourth goal will be given to Dabbur. If UEFA for some reason persists in its mistake, I will recalculate everything.
    Some comments

    Overall standings:
    TotGoals TotPoints
    Midgets 9 19.5
    Bungs 9 19
    Tugas 9 19
    Babes 8 15
    Waffles 6 11
    Armata 7 10.5
    Peacenik 5 8.5
    Wonderland 5 7
    Watch 5 5.5
    Pact 3 3
    Jogo 1 1
    Rockers 1 1
    Very tight at the top, but the Midgets manage to hang on to first place. Babes still within striking distance, Waffles and Armata the best of the rest. The Western Hemisphere guests are battling to avoid the wooden spoon, with the Pact not that far behind. Those trains for Siberia are getting ready for action.


    Finally, the Best Lineups:

    Armata 6
    DF:
    MF:
    FW: Kean 2(x2), Falcinelli, Politano
    Politano's goal ruins the Armata's perfect efficieny record.

    Babes 11
    DF:
    MF: Gudmundsson 2, Karlsson
    FW: Elyounoussi 2 (x2), Nguen, Haaland, Omoijuanfo, Tankovic
    Add Tankovic to the list of "would you have guessed he's a Babe?"


    Jogo 2
    DF:
    MF: Casemiro (x2)
    FW:
    Incredibly enough, Casemiro was the only Brazilian goal in all of the matchday. This must be a first. Jesus doesn't get the perfect efficiency score because he didn't captain him,

    Tugas 12
    DF: Dalot
    MF: Fabio Vieira, Pizzi 2
    FW: Jo|uo Felix 2 (x2), Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Rafael Le|uo
    Another interesting factoid: Diogo Dalot's goal is the only defender UtN goal in all of the matchday.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From HASM@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 18:27:28 2020

    Finally, the Best Lineups:

    Tugas 12
    DF: Dalot
    MF: Fabio Vieira, Pizzi 2
    FW: Jo|uo Felix 2 (x2), Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Rafael Le|uo
    Shouldn't this be 11 total?
    Either way 3 UCL + 6 EL goals by PT players on a match day without any
    being named CR7 is quite a change of scenery.
    -- HASM
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 20:03:50 2020
    On 2020-10-29 11:48, MH wrote:
    On 2020-10-28 13:57, MH wrote:

    Final teams to make less work for FM at the beginning of the next round

    Midgets

    D: Ramos, Reguilon, Navas
    M: Koke, D. Silva, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz 1
    F: Asension, Pedri, Fati, Alcacer 2, Morata (C)

    Rockers:

    D: Morgan, Foulquier, Dest
    MF: Reyna, Arfield, McKennie, Reyna
    FW: Pulisic 1, Lozano (C),


    Waffles and Windmills

    DF: Meunier, Botman, De Vrij
    MF: Wijnaldum, Vanaken (1), De Bruyne, Tielemans
    F: Origi, Lukaku (C), Mertens, L. De JOng (1), Doku
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Oct 29 19:29:24 2020
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 9:27:34 PM UTC-4, HASM wrote:

    Shouldn't this be 11 total?

    Yes, thanks for the correction.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 30 00:50:14 2020
    On Friday, 30 October 2020 02:11:48 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 8:55:16 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Match Day 2 results and standings. I have calculated everything assuming that Hoffenheim's fourth goal will be given to Dabbur. If UEFA for some reason persists in its mistake, I will recalculate everything.
    It's really insane, and it still hasn't been changed.
    This is uefa.com's official description of the goal:
    90'+4 Baumgartner (Hoffenheim) scores!
    The three-goal cushion is restored right at the end. The ball is flicked on into the path of Dabbur, who cuts inside onto his right foot and curls a low shot out of the reach of Roef and into the bottom corner.


    Some comments


    Overall standings:
    TotGoals TotPoints
    Midgets 9 19.5
    Bungs 9 19
    Tugas 9 19
    Babes 8 15
    Waffles 6 11
    Armata 7 10.5
    Peacenik 5 8.5
    Wonderland 5 7
    Watch 5 5.5
    Pact 3 3
    Jogo 1 1
    Rockers 1 1

    Very tight at the top, but the Midgets manage to hang on to first place. Babes still within striking distance, Waffles and Armata the best of the rest. The Western Hemisphere guests are battling to avoid the wooden spoon, with the Pact not that far behind. Those trains for Siberia are getting ready for action.
    The Rockers are ruing Jonathan David's poorly struck penalty kick.



    Finally, the Best Lineups:

    Armata 6
    DF:
    MF:
    FW: Kean 2(x2), Falcinelli, Politano

    Politano's goal ruins the Armata's perfect efficieny record.
    Additionally to the Dabbur situation, I'd keep an eye on whether UEFA don't change Politano's heavily deflected shot into an own goal by Sagnan.

    Babes 11
    DF:
    MF: Gudmundsson 2, Karlsson
    FW: Elyounoussi 2 (x2), Nguen, Haaland, Omoijuanfo, Tankovic

    Add Tankovic to the list of "would you have guessed he's a Babe?"



    Jogo 2
    DF:
    MF: Casemiro (x2)
    FW:

    Incredibly enough, Casemiro was the only Brazilian goal in all of the matchday. This must be a first. Jesus doesn't get the perfect efficiency score because he didn't captain him,



    Tugas 12
    DF: Dalot
    MF: Fabio Vieira, Pizzi 2
    FW: Jo|uo Felix 2 (x2), Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Rafael Le|uo

    Another interesting factoid: Diogo Dalot's goal is the only defender UtN goal in all of the matchday.
    Overall, while it's tempting to concentrate on the higher-profile Champions League (and the Football Godz know I've fallen into that trap), the Europa League is where it's at for UtN purposes. It's just so much easier to score there!
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 30 03:33:04 2020
    On Friday, 30 October 2020 01:55:16 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:


    Match Day standings and points:

    Bungs 6 + 8 = 14
    Tugas 6 + 8 = 14
    Armata 5 + 3.5 = 8.5
    Peaceniks 5 + 3.5 = 8.5
    Babes 4 + 2 = 6
    Midgets 3 + 0.5 = 3.5
    Watch 3 + 0.5 = 3.5
    Pact 2 + 0 = 2
    Waffles 2 + 0 = 2
    Wonderland 2 + 0 = 2
    Jogo 1 + 0 = 1
    Rockers 1 + 0 = 1


    Overall standings:
    TotGoals TotPoints
    Midgets 9 19.5
    Bungs 9 19
    Tugas 9 19
    Babes 8 15
    Waffles 6 11
    Armata 7 10.5
    Peacenik 5 8.5
    Wonderland 5 7
    Watch 5 5.5
    Pact 3 3
    Jogo 1 1
    Rockers 1 1



    Finally, the Best Lineups:

    Armata 6
    DF:
    MF:
    FW: Kean 2(x2), Falcinelli, Politano

    Babes 11
    DF:
    MF: Gudmundsson 2, Karlsson
    FW: Elyounoussi 2 (x2), Nguen, Haaland, Omoijuanfo, Tankovic

    Bungs 14
    DF:
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Choudhury, Willock, Greenwood
    FW: Rashford 3 (x2), Sterling, Sancho, Vardy, Nketiah

    Jogo 2
    DF:
    MF: Casemiro (x2)
    FW:

    Midgets 9
    DF:
    MF: Ferran Torres, Marcos Llorente, Brahim Diaz, Jordi Gomez
    FW: Alcacer 2 (x2), Pino

    Pact 6
    DF:
    MF: Szoboszlai, Tsygankov, Ivanisenya
    FW: An, Miranchuk (x2), Matousek

    Rockers 2
    DF:
    MF:
    FW: Pulisic (x2)

    Tugas 12
    DF: Dalot
    MF: Fabio Vieira, Pizzi 2
    FW: Jo|uo Felix 2 (x2), Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Rafael Le|uo

    Waffles/Windmills 12
    DF:
    MF: Vanaken, Koopmeiners
    FW: Manu 3 (x2), L. De Jong, Berghuis, Malen 2

    Watch 7
    DF:
    MF: Goretza, Kimmich, G|+ndogan
    FW: Werner (x2), Kleindienst, Waldschmidt

    Wonderland 11
    DF:
    MF: Liendl 3 (x2), Balic, Grillitsch, Fassnacht
    FW: Gruber, Raguz
    Peacenik best lineup?
    Should be
    DF:
    MF: Ziyech, Peretz, Refaelov
    FW: Salah, Biton, Belfodil, Dabbur (x2)
    if I'm not mistaken?
    I guess Red Star's Ben Nabouhane doesn't count, although the Comoros are
    part of the Arab League.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 30 04:31:22 2020
    On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 3:50:16 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    It's really insane, and it still hasn't been changed.

    This is uefa.com's official description of the goal:

    90'+4 Baumgartner (Hoffenheim) scores!
    Still no update, even though the stats page correctly has Dabbur with two goals in the competition, Baumgartner with one. I'm going to assume that it will be fixed eventually, and stick to a Dabbur goal.

    The Rockers are ruing Jonathan David's poorly struck penalty kick.
    The Pact is also ruing Roman Yaremchuk's missed penalty. I also hear that there were some mishaps in the usually efficient Ukrainian mail system, and the Yaremchuk family's coupon for their weekly vodka ration will not be delivered this week. Or the next. Or ever, for that matter.

    Finally, the Best Lineups:

    Armata 6
    DF:
    MF:
    FW: Kean 2(x2), Falcinelli, Politano

    Politano's goal ruins the Armata's perfect efficieny record.

    Additionally to the Dabbur situation, I'd keep an eye on whether UEFA don't change Politano's heavily deflected shot into an own goal by Sagnan.
    So far, the stats page still has it as a Politano goal

    Overall, while it's tempting to concentrate on the higher-profile Champions League (and the Football Godz know I've fallen into that trap), the Europa League is where it's at for UtN purposes. It's just so much easier to score there!
    Well, there are 50% more matches. The goals per game ratio is actually slightly higher in the CL (2.94 vs 2.88)
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Oct 30 04:39:12 2020
    On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 6:33:07 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Peacenik best lineup?

    Should be

    DF:
    MF: Ziyech, Peretz, Refaelov
    FW: Salah, Biton, Belfodil, Dabbur (x2)


    Yes, thank you. Also, I had Biton as a midfielder in my original sheet, thanks for the correction.

    I guess Red Star's Ben Nabouhane doesn't count, although the Comoros are
    part of the Arab League.

    The wikipedia page that has Turkey as part of MENA lists Comoros as part of "Additional countries and territories that are sometimes counted as part of MENA, but rarely mentioned"

    So no, no Ben Nabouhane.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 3 14:08:41 2020
    On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 3:50:16 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Overall, while it's tempting to concentrate on the higher-profile Champions League (and the Football Godz know I've fallen into that trap), the Europa League is where it's at for UtN purposes. It's just so much easier to score there!

    Something like 4.5 goals per game in today's round of CL matches. It never fails!
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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