• Re: Managers with league titles with five or more different teams? [Rim

    From vedran@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Dec 13 19:07:36 2020
    On 23.11.2020. 23:52, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Lower-hanging fruit, but Otto Bari-c won the Austrian League with Innsbruck, Rapid and Austria Salzburg.
    (+1 Croatian title with Dinamo Zagreb, reached two European finals, came very close to another Austrian title with Sturm Graz)


    Otto Baric just passed away, due to covid complications apparently.
    Despite his age he was more than reasonable, was a guest at
    Podcast Inkubator this year
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZYllyOq5FU
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  • From vedran@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Dec 14 06:27:04 2020
    On 14.12.2020. 0:50, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Very sad news.


    It is, I suppose only Austrians and people in exYU can understand what kind
    of old school legend he is, despite homophobic statements, he certainly
    didn't seem like a type of person who'd say those.

    I was a bit young to get attached to exYu football team and Osim, but we
    have one more
    legend of Otto's calibre (and probably more in terms of personality) and that's Miroslav Ciro Blazevic,
    who was also on the same podcast 2 months ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5tI8d10i3c

    Someone really should make English subs for these podcasts.

    When it comes to Otto and Ciro, it will be remembered that Otto never
    wanted to admit
    Ciro was a better coach, even though he won 3rd place on the WC1998,
    here in this clip
    from podcast

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqbnhBZLAlc

    Otto said: "I'm among the better ones, I don't want to classify myself,
    but Ivic is better".
    Host: "Where is Ciro here?"
    Otto: "If Ivic is better and I'm here close, then he is a bit below
    *laugh*. He swallows that hard."
    Host: "Then why is Ciro considered 'The Coach of All Coaches'?"
    Otto: "He managed to achieve that with journalists. And even today he
    wants to make that (WC1998) so
    important, but probably some other coach could do the same."
    Host: "Are you sure?".
    Otto: "I'm certain. I'm not against Ciro, but I'm looking at the job of
    a manager like a job
    of a shoemaker, who makes better shoes".

    Then Otto talks about EURO2006 where he was on a bench as Ciro's
    assistant and was critical,
    said more could have been done despite Germany having obvious referee protection.

    Ciro is 85, I hope he won't leave us soon.
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  • From vedran@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Dec 14 06:58:56 2020
    On 14.12.2020. 6:27, vedran wrote:

    Then Otto talks about EURO2006 where he was on a bench as Ciro's

    Mistake, EURO 1996.
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