• R.I.P. Agne Simonsson

    From anders t@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 11:38:37 2020
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."


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  • From Jesus Petry@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 04:20:39 2020
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?
    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does it check, Anders?
    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry
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  • From Al Kamista@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 05:33:22 2020
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does it check, Anders?
    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
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  • From Jesus Petry@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 06:19:23 2020
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 9:33:25 AM UTC-3, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does it check, Anders?

    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
    Possibly Carbajal, the Mexican goalkeeper (7 June 1929). Research ongoing.
    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 06:21:04 2020
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
    it check, Anders?

    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.
    Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.
    Horst Eckel is the only player still alive from the 1954 final, but he's not the oldest living World Cup finalist as Zagallo was born one year earlier.
    West Germany 1974 is the last finalist whose players are all still alive, 1990 is (sadly) the last one where none of the players has died yet.
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Jesus Petry@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 06:32:23 2020
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:19:26 AM UTC-3, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 9:33:25 AM UTC-3, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does it check, Anders?

    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.

    Possibly Carbajal, the Mexican goalkeeper (7 June 1929). Research ongoing.
    Chilean Arturo Far|!as (1 September 1927) is even older!
    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 06:36:47 2020
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:21:06 UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
    it check, Anders?

    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must
    be someone from the 1950 cup.

    Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match),
    OK, Italian Wikipedia has him dead fifteen years ago in the US. Strange how some
    of the 1950 players seem to be virtual unknowns, especially from the South American participants (not even birth dates).
    and more notably Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.
    Those two are still true.
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Jesus Petry@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 06:37:09 2020
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:21:06 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
    it check, Anders?

    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must
    be someone from the 1950 cup.

    Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.
    Italian Wiki says Giovannini died in 2005. Otherwise he would have been the oldest.
    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 06:42:24 2020
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:32:26 UTC+2, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:19:26 AM UTC-3, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 9:33:25 AM UTC-3, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does it check, Anders?

    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.

    Possibly Carbajal, the Mexican goalkeeper (7 June 1929). Research ongoing.

    Chilean Arturo Far|!as (1 September 1927) is even older!
    Nikita Simonyan is still alive - he won Olympic Gold with the Soviet Union in 1956 and played in the 1958 World Cup, and was born on October 12, 1926.
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Jesus Petry@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 06:50:10 2020
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:42:27 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:32:26 UTC+2, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:19:26 AM UTC-3, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 9:33:25 AM UTC-3, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin.
    Does it check, Anders?

    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.

    Possibly Carbajal, the Mexican goalkeeper (7 June 1929). Research ongoing.

    Chilean Arturo Far|!as (1 September 1927) is even older!


    Nikita Simonyan is still alive - he won Olympic Gold with the Soviet Union in 1956 and played in the 1958 World Cup, and was born on October 12, 1926.
    He beats all the 1950ers that I've found as confirmed alive.
    Tchau!
    Jesus "out to check the 1954ers" Petry
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 06:55:03 2020
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:37:11 UTC+2, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:21:06 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
    it check, Anders?

    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.

    Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.

    Italian Wiki says Giovannini died in 2005. Otherwise he would have been the oldest.
    On a somewhat related note, in the J-League earlier today Yokohama FC for their match against Kawasaki Frontale had Kazuyoshi Miura and former Celtic midfielder
    Shunsuke Nakamura in their starting line-up.
    Nakamura is 42, Miura is 53. Raw fish is even better for you.
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Jesus Petry@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 07:03:59 2020
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:55:06 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:37:11 UTC+2, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:21:06 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
    it check, Anders?

    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.

    Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably
    Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.

    Italian Wiki says Giovannini died in 2005. Otherwise he would have been the oldest.


    On a somewhat related note, in the J-League earlier today Yokohama FC for their
    match against Kawasaki Frontale had Kazuyoshi Miura and former Celtic midfielder
    Shunsuke Nakamura in their starting line-up.

    Nakamura is 42, Miura is 53. Raw fish is even better for you.
    Keeping on the Far East theme, here's an 1954er to beat Simonyan:
    Park Jae-seung (1 April 1923!)
    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Sep 23 08:08:14 2020
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 9:55:06 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:37:11 UTC+2, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:21:06 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
    it check, Anders?

    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.

    Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably
    Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.

    Italian Wiki says Giovannini died in 2005. Otherwise he would have been the oldest.


    On a somewhat related note, in the J-League earlier today Yokohama FC for their
    match against Kawasaki Frontale had Kazuyoshi Miura and former Celtic midfielder
    Shunsuke Nakamura in their starting line-up.

    Nakamura is 42, Miura is 53. Raw fish is even better for you.

    I wonder though whether playing football is not that good for you. Going over the squads of the 1954 WC, it looks as if about 15% of players born between 1931 and 1935 are still alive. That strikes me as a bit lower than the male survival rate in the population (based on this data from the UN: https://population.un.org/wpp/Download/Standard/Population/ -- there is a lot of variation by country so one would have to adjust for that...)
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  • From Bruce Scott@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Sep 24 09:43:26 2020
    On 2020-09-23, Jesus Petry <jesus.petry@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
    https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."

    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the 3rd place match, Just Fontaine is still around

    One big year, 18 goals for France in 1958, 13 of them in the World Cup

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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Sep 24 03:35:19 2020
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 17:08:17 UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 9:55:06 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:37:11 UTC+2, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:21:06 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."

    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does it check, Anders?

    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player?
    Must be someone from the 1950 cup.

    Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.

    Italian Wiki says Giovannini died in 2005. Otherwise he would have been the oldest.


    On a somewhat related note, in the J-League earlier today Yokohama FC for their match against Kawasaki Frontale had Kazuyoshi Miura and former Celtic midfielder Shunsuke Nakamura in their starting line-up.

    Nakamura is 42, Miura is 53. Raw fish is even better for you.


    I wonder though whether playing football is not that good for you.
    Thought the same and I'm pretty sure at least for that generation the answer
    is no. Of the 1954 final, more than half of the players died before the age of 70 with heart attacks quite prevalent.
    If that's down to some long-term effects of the stuff they were taking or being given at the time, some other reasons, or a statistical blip, I wouldn't venture
    to say.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    Going over
    the squads of the 1954 WC, it looks as if about 15% of players born between 1931 and 1935 are still alive. That strikes me as a bit lower than the male survival rate in the population (based on this data from the UN: https://population.un.org/wpp/Download/Standard/Population/ -- there is a lot of variation by country so one would have to adjust for that...)
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  • From Bruce Scott@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Sep 24 17:20:46 2020
    On 2020-09-24, Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:

    Thought the same and I'm pretty sure at least for that generation the
    answer is no. Of the 1954 final, more than half of the players died
    before the age of 70 with heart attacks quite prevalent.

    If that's down to some long-term effects of the stuff they were taking
    or being given at the time, some other reasons, or a statistical blip,
    I wouldn't venture to say.

    Lots of cigarettes, maybe.

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  • From anders t@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Sep 24 20:39:25 2020
    Quoting Bruce Scott in rec.sport.soccer:
    On 2020-09-23, Jesus Petry <jesus.petry@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson
    https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."

    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the 3rd place match, Just Fontaine is still around

    Just Fontaine?

    One big year, 18 goals for France in 1958, 13 of them in the World Cup

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  • From Bruce Scott@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Sep 25 11:49:52 2020
    On 2020-09-24, anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
    Quoting Bruce Scott in rec.sport.soccer:

    From the 3rd place match, Just Fontaine is still around

    Just Fontaine?

    Checked French Wikipedia, spelling is correct:

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Fontaine

    --
    ciao, Bruce
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  • From Jesus Petry@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Sep 25 04:53:33 2020
    On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 8:49:57 AM UTC-3, Bruce Scott wrote:
    On 2020-09-24, anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
    Quoting Bruce Scott in rec.sport.soccer:

    From the 3rd place match, Just Fontaine is still around

    Just Fontaine?

    Checked French Wikipedia, spelling is correct:

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Fontaine

    I'm guessing it was a pun.

    Tchau!
    Jesus "Just Fontaine? No one else?" Petry
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Sep 25 07:18:21 2020
    On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 7:53:36 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 8:49:57 AM UTC-3, Bruce Scott wrote:
    On 2020-09-24, anders t <> wrote:
    Quoting Bruce Scott in rec.sport.soccer:

    From the 3rd place match, Just Fontaine is still around

    Just Fontaine?

    Checked French Wikipedia, spelling is correct:

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Fontaine

    I'm guessing it was a pun.

    Tchau!
    Jesus "Just Fontaine? No one else?" Petry
    If I counted correctly, and if English wikipedia is to be trusted, seven members of France's 1958 WC squad are still alive: Fontaine, Colonna, Remetter, Mouynet, Chiarelli, Douis and Wisnieski. This in contrast with France's 1954 WC squad, with no survivors.
    Maybe it wasn't just the Germans taking vitamins...
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Sep 25 08:04:52 2020
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 9:55:06 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 15:37:11 UTC+2, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 10:21:06 AM UTC-3, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:33:25 UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-4, Jesus Petry wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:38:43 AM UTC-3, anders t wrote:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agne_Simonsson

    He once apparently said something like:

    "You're not a real footballer unless you have scored in a WC final."
    So, who still lives from the 1958 final?

    From the Brazilian side, only Pel|- and Zagallo.
    From the Swedes, according to English Wikipedia, B||rjesson and Hamrin. Does
    it check, Anders?

    Here's another question - who is the oldest surviving World Cup player? Must be someone from the 1950 cup.

    Of Italy's 1950 squad, Giovannini (who played one match), and more notably
    Boniperti are still alive. Olive oil is good for you.

    Italian Wiki says Giovannini died in 2005. Otherwise he would have been the oldest.


    On a somewhat related note, in the J-League earlier today Yokohama FC for their
    match against Kawasaki Frontale had Kazuyoshi Miura and former Celtic midfielder
    Shunsuke Nakamura in their starting line-up.

    Nakamura is 42, Miura is 53. Raw fish is even better for you.

    There must be something in svickova and ropa vieja too. Ultracentenarians Josef Orth (Czechoslovakia) and Jacinto Barquin (Cuba) are apparently the only survivors of the 1938 World Cup. That, or their date of death is unknown.
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  • From anders t@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Sep 25 23:05:05 2020
    Quoting Jesus Petry in rec.sport.soccer:
    On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 8:49:57 AM UTC-3, Bruce Scott wrote:
    On 2020-09-24, anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
    Quoting Bruce Scott in rec.sport.soccer:

    From the 3rd place match, Just Fontaine is still around

    Just Fontaine?

    Checked French Wikipedia, spelling is correct:

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Fontaine

    I'm guessing it was a pun.

    In-diddely-deed!

    Tchau!
    Jesus "Just Fontaine? No one else?" Petry


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