• Europa League after Matchday 5 - Standings & Scenarios

    From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Dec 3 14:47:17 2020
    * = qualified to the Round of 32
    Only six spots out of 24 left up for grabs. Do we have the EL SophCon
    master sheet so I can look at scenarios?
    --
    Group A
    1 Roma 4-1-0 12-2 13*
    2 Young Boys 2-1-1 7-6 7
    3 Cluj 1-2-2 3-8 5
    4 CSKA-Sofia 0-2-3 0-6 2
    YB host Cluj in Switzerland for a place in the round of 32.
    --
    Group B
    1 Arsenal 5-0-0 16-3 15*
    2 Molde 3-0-2 7-9 9
    3 Rapid 2-0-3 9-11 6
    4 Dundalk 0-0-5 6-15 0
    Rapid host Molde on the last matchday. As they lost the first game in
    Norway 0-1, any win but 2-1, 3-2 etc. would see the Austrians through.
    --
    Group C
    1 Slavia Praha 4-0-1 11-5 12*
    2 Leverkusen 4-0-1 17-8 12*
    3 Nice 1-0-4 7-15 3
    4 Hapoel Be'er-Sheva 1-0-4 6-13 3
    Leverkusen need a win at home against Slavia to win the group.
    --
    Group D
    1 Rangers 3-2-0 11-7 11*
    2 Benfica 3-2-0 16-7 11*
    3 Lech Pozna+a 1-0-4 6-12 3
    4 Standard Li|?ge 1-0-4 5-12 3
    Rangers win the group in Poland if they match Benfica's result away in Belgium. --
    Group E
    1 Granada 3-1-1 6-3 10*
    2 PSV 3-0-2 8-9 9*
    3 PAOK 1-2-2 8-7 5
    4 Omonoia 1-1-3 5-8 1
    PAOK blew it today on Cyprus. Granada group winners if they win in Greece
    or if PSV don't win at home against Omonoia.
    --
    Group F
    1 Napoli 3-1-1 6-3 10
    2 Real Sociedad 2-2-1 4-3 8
    3 AZ 2-2-1 6-3 8
    4 Rijeka 0-1-4 4-11 1
    The only group where no team has qualified yet. Napoli host Real Sociedad
    on the last matchday and the Basques need a win if AZ beat Rijeka away. On
    the other hand, a draw in Croatia would only be enough for AZ if Napoli win. Napoli themselves most likely can't afford to lose.
    --
    Group G
    1 Leicester 3-1-1 12-5 10*
    2 Braga 3-1-1 12-10 10*
    3 Zorya Luhansk 2-0-3 6-9 6
    4 AEK 1-0-4 7-13 3
    Leicester win the head to head over Braga, so they are group winners with a home win against AEK.
    --
    Group H
    1 Lille 3-2-0 12-5 11*
    2 Milan 3-1-1 11-7 10*
    3 Sparta Praha 2-0-3 10-11 6
    4 Celtic 0-1-4 7-17 1
    Lille play away in Glasgow and Milan in Prague to decide the group winner.
    --
    Group I
    1 Villarreal 4-1-0 14-5 13*
    2 Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2-2-1 5-7 8
    3 Sivasspor 2-0-3 9-10 6
    4 Qaraba-f 0-1-4 4-10 1
    Maccabi host Sivasspor in a last-round final.
    --
    Group J
    1 Royal Antwerp 4-0-1 8-3 12*
    2 Tottenham 3-1-1 13-5 10*
    3 LASK 2-1-2 8-11 7
    4 Ludogorets Razgrad 0-0-4 6-16 0
    Tottenham can still be group winners as they host Royal on the last matchday. --
    Group K
    1 Dinamo Zagreb 3-2-0 6-0 11*
    2 WAC 2-1-2 6-6 7
    3 Feyenoord 1-2-2 4-7 5
    4 CSKA Moskva 0-3-2 2-5 3
    Dinamo could become the first club ever to finish a European group phase
    with no goals conceded (if you count neither the weird 4-match UEFA Cup
    group stages in the 2000's, nor the Intertoto).
    Wolfsberg will have a final in Klagenfurt and only need a draw against Feyenoord for a historic qualification to the knock-out rounds. They have hugely impressed me and showcase what's possible for smaller Austrian clubs.
    --
    Group L
    1 Hoffenheim 4-1-0 13-1 13*
    2 Crvena Zvezda 3-1-1 9-4 10*
    3 Slovan Liberec 2-0-3 4-13 6
    4 Gent 0-0-5 2-9 0
    Everything's decided here. Terrible campaign by Gent who started the
    season in the CL qualifiers.
    --
    Top Scorers:
    Yusuf Yaz-#c-# (TUR/Lille) 6
    Mikael Ishak (SWE/Lech Pozna+a) 5
    Luk|i+i Juli+i (CZE/Sparta Praha) 5
    Darwin N|||#ez (URU/Benfica) 5
    Pizzi (POR/Benfica) 5
    --
    Current UEFA ranking (incl. bonus points due to mathematically achieved qualification to the CL Round of 16)
    Season 2020/21
    1 England 13.071 (7/7 still in Europe)
    2 Spain 11.357 (7/7)
    3 Germany 10.642 (6/7)
    4 Italy 10.428 (7/7)
    5 Portugal 7.400 (3/5)
    6 Netherlands 6.400 (4/5)
    7 Scotland 6.250 (2/4)
    8 Israel 6.000 (2/4)
    9 Austria 5.700 (4/5)
    10 France 5.583 (5/6)
    The top 4 on pretty much the same point total as at exactly the same time
    last season (Italy and England have improved by two points). Bad seasons
    for France and especially Russia (4.166, 17th place).
    Total
    ------------ (7 teams in Europe / 4 CL group spots / 2 EL group spots)
    1 Spain 89.712 (7/7)
    2 England 89.283 (7/7)
    3 Italy 69.581 (7/7)
    4 Germany 68.998 (6/7)
    ------------ (6 teams in Europe / 2 CL group spots / 2 EL group spots)
    5 France 53.748 (5/6)
    ------------ (6 teams in Europe / 2 CL group spots / 1 EL group spot)
    6 Portugal 46.349 (3/5)
    ------------ (5 teams in Europe / 1 CL group spot)
    7 Russia 38.215 (4/6)
    8 Netherlands 36.400 (4/5)
    9 Belgium 35.900 (4/5)
    10 Austria 34.825 (4/5)
    ------------ (5 teams in Europe - 2 CLQ, 1 ELQ, 2 ECLQ)
    11 Scotland 31.125 (2/4)
    12 Ukraine 31.100 (3/5)
    13 Turkey 30.100 (2/5)
    14 Cyprus 27.750 (1/4)
    15 Denmark 27.625 (1/4)
    ------------ (4 teams in Europe - 1 CLQ, 0 ELQ, 3 ECLQ)
    16 Serbia 26.000 (1/4)
    17 Greece 25.000 (3/5)
    18 Czech Republic 24.800 (3/5)
    19 Switzerland 24.725 (1/4)
    20 Croatia 24.075 (2/5)
    21 Israel 23.375 (2/4)
    22 Sweden 20.500 (0/4)
    23 Bulgaria 19.875 (2/4)
    24 Norway 19.500 (1/4)
    25 Romania 18.200 (1/4)
    The changes in the Top 15 since the beginning of the group stages were: Netherlands overtook Belgium
    Scotland overtook Turkey and Ukraine
    Cyprus overtook Denmark
    Serbia still with an outside chance at stealing 15th place from Denmark,
    but they need at least three more wins and a draw by Red Star.
    Russia's third bad season in a row means that they have been dragged down into the fight for the top 10 (it will be more pronounced next season), and it
    will almost certainly spell the end of Zenit in Pot 1 of the Champions
    League. As it appears now, Ajax will probably take that place in two years' time.
    --
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Dec 3 15:46:29 2020
    On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 5:47:19 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    * = qualified to the Round of 32

    Only six spots out of 24 left up for grabs. Do we have the EL SophCon
    master sheet so I can look at scenarios?

    Here (at the bottom of the post) https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2020/10/15/european-cups-2020-2021-group-stage-sophisticated-prediction-contest/
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Dec 4 00:42:15 2020
    In article <e0bb81d8-d7b0-4773-ae57-6ad531925ba1n@googlegroups.com>,
    Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
    * = qualified to the Round of 32

    Only six spots out of 24 left up for grabs. Do we have the EL SophCon
    master sheet so I can look at scenarios?


    --

    Group A

    1 Roma 4-1-0 12-2 13*
    2 Young Boys 2-1-1 7-6 7
    3 Cluj 1-2-2 3-8 5
    4 CSKA-Sofia 0-2-3 0-6 2

    YB host Cluj in Switzerland for a place in the round of 32.


    with Roma in the hat


    --

    Group B

    1 Arsenal 5-0-0 16-3 15*
    2 Molde 3-0-2 7-9 9
    3 Rapid 2-0-3 9-11 6
    4 Dundalk 0-0-5 6-15 0

    Rapid host Molde on the last matchday. As they lost the first game in
    Norway 0-1, any win but 2-1, 3-2 etc. would see the Austrians through.


    Hopefully Arsenal goes 100% wins!!


    --

    Group C

    1 Slavia Praha 4-0-1 11-5 12*
    2 Leverkusen 4-0-1 17-8 12*
    3 Nice 1-0-4 7-15 3
    4 Hapoel Be'er-Sheva 1-0-4 6-13 3

    Leverkusen need a win at home against Slavia to win the group.



    Big game!!

    --

    Group D

    1 Rangers 3-2-0 11-7 11*
    2 Benfica 3-2-0 16-7 11*
    3 Lech Pozna+a 1-0-4 6-12 3
    4 Standard Li|?ge 1-0-4 5-12 3

    Rangers win the group in Poland if they match Benfica's result away in Belgium.


    Interesting.


    --

    Group E

    1 Granada 3-1-1 6-3 10*
    2 PSV 3-0-2 8-9 9*
    3 PAOK 1-2-2 8-7 5
    4 Omonoia 1-1-3 5-8 1

    PAOK blew it today on Cyprus. Granada group winners if they win in Greece
    or if PSV don't win at home against Omonoia.


    Interesting.


    --

    Group F

    1 Napoli 3-1-1 6-3 10
    2 Real Sociedad 2-2-1 4-3 8
    3 AZ 2-2-1 6-3 8
    4 Rijeka 0-1-4 4-11 1

    The only group where no team has qualified yet. Napoli host Real Sociedad
    on the last matchday and the Basques need a win if AZ beat Rijeka away. On >the other hand, a draw in Croatia would only be enough for AZ if Napoli win. >Napoli themselves most likely can't afford to lose.


    Watch that group!!


    --

    Group G

    1 Leicester 3-1-1 12-5 10*
    2 Braga 3-1-1 12-10 10*
    3 Zorya Luhansk 2-0-3 6-9 6
    4 AEK 1-0-4 7-13 3

    Leicester win the head to head over Braga, so they are group winners with a >home win against AEK.


    Go Leicester!!


    --

    Group H

    1 Lille 3-2-0 12-5 11*
    2 Milan 3-1-1 11-7 10*
    3 Sparta Praha 2-0-3 10-11 6
    4 Celtic 0-1-4 7-17 1

    Lille play away in Glasgow and Milan in Prague to decide the group winner.


    Bye Cetic!!


    --

    Group I

    1 Villarreal 4-1-0 14-5 13*
    2 Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2-2-1 5-7 8
    3 Sivasspor 2-0-3 9-10 6
    4 Qaraba-f 0-1-4 4-10 1

    Maccabi host Sivasspor in a last-round final.



    Interesting game ahead!

    Unai wins group

    --

    Group J

    1 Royal Antwerp 4-0-1 8-3 12*
    2 Tottenham 3-1-1 13-5 10*
    3 LASK 2-1-2 8-11 7
    4 Ludogorets Razgrad 0-0-4 6-16 0

    Tottenham can still be group winners as they host Royal on the last matchday.


    WTW !


    --

    Group K

    1 Dinamo Zagreb 3-2-0 6-0 11*
    2 WAC 2-1-2 6-6 7
    3 Feyenoord 1-2-2 4-7 5
    4 CSKA Moskva 0-3-2 2-5 3

    Dinamo could become the first club ever to finish a European group phase
    with no goals conceded (if you count neither the weird 4-match UEFA Cup
    group stages in the 2000's, nor the Intertoto).

    Wolfsberg will have a final in Klagenfurt and only need a draw against >Feyenoord for a historic qualification to the knock-out rounds. They have >hugely impressed me and showcase what's possible for smaller Austrian clubs.


    Go! Go! Go!!


    --

    Group L

    1 Hoffenheim 4-1-0 13-1 13*
    2 Crvena Zvezda 3-1-1 9-4 10*
    3 Slovan Liberec 2-0-3 4-13 6
    4 Gent 0-0-5 2-9 0

    Everything's decided here. Terrible campaign by Gent who started the
    season in the CL qualifiers.


    --

    Top Scorers:

    Yusuf Yaz-#c-# (TUR/Lille) 6
    Mikael Ishak (SWE/Lech Pozna+a) 5
    Luk|i+i Juli+i (CZE/Sparta Praha) 5
    Darwin N|||#ez (URU/Benfica) 5
    Pizzi (POR/Benfica) 5

    --

    Current UEFA ranking (incl. bonus points due to mathematically achieved >qualification to the CL Round of 16)

    Season 2020/21

    1 England 13.071 (7/7 still in Europe)
    2 Spain 11.357 (7/7)
    3 Germany 10.642 (6/7)
    4 Italy 10.428 (7/7)
    5 Portugal 7.400 (3/5)
    6 Netherlands 6.400 (4/5)
    7 Scotland 6.250 (2/4)
    8 Israel 6.000 (2/4)
    9 Austria 5.700 (4/5)
    10 France 5.583 (5/6)

    The top 4 on pretty much the same point total as at exactly the same time >last season (Italy and England have improved by two points). Bad seasons
    for France and especially Russia (4.166, 17th place).


    Total

    ------------ (7 teams in Europe / 4 CL group spots / 2 EL group spots)
    1 Spain 89.712 (7/7)
    2 England 89.283 (7/7)
    3 Italy 69.581 (7/7)
    4 Germany 68.998 (6/7)
    ------------ (6 teams in Europe / 2 CL group spots / 2 EL group spots)
    5 France 53.748 (5/6)
    ------------ (6 teams in Europe / 2 CL group spots / 1 EL group spot)
    6 Portugal 46.349 (3/5)
    ------------ (5 teams in Europe / 1 CL group spot)
    7 Russia 38.215 (4/6)
    8 Netherlands 36.400 (4/5)
    9 Belgium 35.900 (4/5)
    10 Austria 34.825 (4/5)
    ------------ (5 teams in Europe - 2 CLQ, 1 ELQ, 2 ECLQ)
    11 Scotland 31.125 (2/4)
    12 Ukraine 31.100 (3/5)
    13 Turkey 30.100 (2/5)
    14 Cyprus 27.750 (1/4)
    15 Denmark 27.625 (1/4)
    ------------ (4 teams in Europe - 1 CLQ, 0 ELQ, 3 ECLQ)
    16 Serbia 26.000 (1/4)
    17 Greece 25.000 (3/5)
    18 Czech Republic 24.800 (3/5)
    19 Switzerland 24.725 (1/4)
    20 Croatia 24.075 (2/5)
    21 Israel 23.375 (2/4)
    22 Sweden 20.500 (0/4)
    23 Bulgaria 19.875 (2/4)
    24 Norway 19.500 (1/4)
    25 Romania 18.200 (1/4)

    The changes in the Top 15 since the beginning of the group stages were: >Netherlands overtook Belgium
    Scotland overtook Turkey and Ukraine
    Cyprus overtook Denmark

    Serbia still with an outside chance at stealing 15th place from Denmark,
    but they need at least three more wins and a draw by Red Star.

    Russia's third bad season in a row means that they have been dragged
    down into the fight for the top 10 (it will be more pronounced next
    season), and it
    will almost certainly spell the end of Zenit in Pot 1 of the Champions >League. As it appears now, Ajax will probably take that place in two years' >time.


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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Dec 3 17:32:08 2020
    On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 12:46:31 AM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 5:47:19 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    * = qualified to the Round of 32

    Only six spots out of 24 left up for grabs. Do we have the EL SophCon master sheet so I can look at scenarios?

    Here (at the bottom of the post) https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2020/10/15/european-cups-2020-2021-group-stage-sophisticated-prediction-contest/

    Thanks!

    Quick and dirty, so probably not error-free, but it appears we can have five possible winners:

    Two ClubElo variations as favourites:

    Lorenzo Carli / ClubElo (wins in 24 out of 48 possible scenarios)
    ClubElo by Futbolmetrix (wins in 9 cases)

    And three human underdogs:

    Futbolmetrix (7 scenarios)
    MH (5)
    Jesper (3)

    Best possible winning score: -17,927: YB, Rapid, Maccabi, Feyenoord, Napoli/Sociedad (Lorenzo Carli/ClubElo)
    Worst possible winning score: -24,722: Cluj, Molde, Sivasspor, Wolfsberg, AZ/Napoli (ClubElo by Futbolmetrix)

    Jesper wins if AZ crash out, Sivasspor win in Israel, Feyenoord overcome Wolfsberg and one of Cluj or Molde fails.
    MH needs Sivasspor and Molde in any case, and AZ to qualify.
    Daniele needs YB and Sivasspor.

    https://www.file-upload.net/download-14386140/SPC_EL2020-21_GroupStage_Scenarios.xls.html


    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Dec 11 00:01:21 2020
    On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 2:32:11 AM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 12:46:31 AM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 5:47:19 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    * = qualified to the Round of 32

    Only six spots out of 24 left up for grabs. Do we have the EL SophCon master sheet so I can look at scenarios?

    Here (at the bottom of the post) https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2020/10/15/european-cups-2020-2021-group-stage-sophisticated-prediction-contest/
    Thanks!

    Quick and dirty, so probably not error-free, but it appears we can have five possible winners:

    Two ClubElo variations as favourites:

    Lorenzo Carli / ClubElo (wins in 24 out of 48 possible scenarios)
    ClubElo by Futbolmetrix (wins in 9 cases)

    And three human underdogs:

    Futbolmetrix (7 scenarios)
    MH (5)
    Jesper (3)

    Best possible winning score: -17,927: YB, Rapid, Maccabi, Feyenoord, Napoli/Sociedad (Lorenzo Carli/ClubElo)
    Worst possible winning score: -24,722: Cluj, Molde, Sivasspor, Wolfsberg, AZ/Napoli (ClubElo by Futbolmetrix)

    Jesper wins if AZ crash out, Sivasspor win in Israel, Feyenoord overcome Wolfsberg and one of Cluj or Molde fails.
    MH needs Sivasspor and Molde in any case, and AZ to qualify.
    Daniele needs YB and Sivasspor.

    https://www.file-upload.net/download-14386140/SPC_EL2020-21_GroupStage_Scenarios.xls.html

    So the expected result and Lorenzo Carli / ClubElo should take the win. Daniele came closest but, all else being
    equal, ironically would have needed Sivasspor to prevail over Maccabi Tel-Aviv.

    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Dec 11 00:30:20 2020
    On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 11:47:19 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: Updates after the end of the group stages:
    EL Top Scorers:
    Pizzi (POR/Benfica) 6
    Yusuf Yaz-#c-# (TUR/Lille) 6
    Leon Bailey (JAM/Leverkusen) 5
    Mikael Ishak (SWE/Lech Pozna+a) 5
    Luk|i+i Juli+i (CZE/Sparta Praha) 5
    Donyell Malen (NED/PSV) 5
    Darwin N|||#ez (URU/Benfica) 5


    Current UEFA ranking

    Season 2020/21
    1 England 14.500 (7/7 still in Europe)
    2 Spain 13.928 (7/7)
    3 Germany 13.500 (6/7)
    4 Italy 13.142 (6/7)
    5 Portugal 8.400 (3/5)
    6 Scotland 7.250 (1/4)
    7 Israel 7.000 (1/4)
    8 Netherlands 6.800 (2/5)
    9 France 6.750 (2/6)
    10 Austria 6.700 (2/5)
    11 Belgium 5.800 (2/5)
    12 Ukraine 5.400 (2/5)
    13 Norway 5.250 (1/4)
    14 Czech Republic 5.000 (1/5)
    Serbia 5.000 (1/4)
    16 Croatia 4.500 (1/4)
    17 Russia 4.333 (1/6)
    18 Greece 4.300 (1/5)
    19 Hungary 4.250 (0/5)
    20 Switzerland 4.125 (1/4)
    Denmark 4.125 (0/4)
    The gap between the top 4 and the rest opens ever wider.
    Dismal season for Turkey (down in 26th, 3.100 points, all teams eliminated). Russian teams also finish with a combined record of 1-9-14 in the group
    stages (with Krasnodar against Rennes the only win).
    Total

    ------------ (7 teams in Europe / 4 CL group spots / 2 EL group spots)
    1 Spain 92.283 (7/7)
    2 England 90.712 (7/7)
    3 Italy 72.295 (6/7)
    4 Germany 71.856 (6/7)
    ------------ (6 teams in Europe / 2 CL group spots / 2 EL group spots)
    5 France 54.915 (2/6)
    ------------ (6 teams in Europe / 2 CL group spots / 1 EL group spot)
    6 Portugal 47.349 (3/5)
    ------------ (5 teams in Europe / 1 CL group spot)
    7 Russia 38.382 (1/6)
    8 Netherlands 36.800 (2/5)
    9 Belgium 36.300 (2/5)
    10 Austria 35.825 (2/5)
    ------------ (5 teams in Europe - 2 CLQ, 1 ELQ, 2 ECLQ)
    11 Scotland 32.125 (1/4)
    12 Ukraine 31.700 (2/5)
    13 Turkey 30.100 (0/5)
    14 Denmark 27.875 (0/4)
    15 Cyprus 27.750 (0/4)
    ------------ (4 teams in Europe - 1 CLQ, 0 ELQ, 3 ECLQ)
    16 Serbia 26.250 (1/4)
    17 Switzerland 25.225 (1/4)
    18 Greece 25.200 (1/5)
    19 Czech Republic 25.000 (1/5)
    20 Croatia 24.875 (1/5)
    21 Israel 24.375 (1/4)
    22 Sweden 20.500 (0/4)
    23 Bulgaria 20.375 (0/4)
    24 Norway 19.750 (1/4)
    25 Romania 18.200 (0/4)
    With Ajax failing to qualify in the CL and Feyenoord's and AZ's outright elimination the
    Netherlands squandered a big opportunity to firmly establish themselves as favourites
    for the 7th spot.
    Close fight also for 11th place and the (probable) direct Champions League berth.
    Rangers now have to defeat that slim lead alone against Dynamo Kiev and Shakhtar.
    Hugely important point won by Midtjylland against Liverpool as Denmark are now pretty much inassailable inside the Top 15. Even though all the countries below that
    line still have a team in contention, only Serbia have a realistic shot of overtaking Cyprus
    if Red Star can somehow get two more wins and a draw.
    Norway are the lowest-ranked nation to still have a team alive. Poland down in 30th
    finish in their historically worst ever position.
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Dec 11 05:05:56 2020
    On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:01:25 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    So the expected result and Lorenzo Carli / ClubElo should take the win. Daniele came closest but, all else being
    equal, ironically would have needed Sivasspor to prevail over Maccabi Tel-Aviv.

    Yes, the final round of the EL was a bit anticlimactic, with no changes at all in the qualification picture in the end (only Cluj and AZ were at some point qualified but then fell behind again).

    EuroClubIndex's prediction was a late addition to the SophCon, so it didn't make it to the Master spreadsheet posted in the link I gave you.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Dec 11 05:07:59 2020
    On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:30:22 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 11:47:19 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Updates after the end of the group stages:

    EL Top Scorers:

    Pizzi (POR/Benfica) 6
    Season 2020/21

    1 England 14.500 (7/7 still in Europe)
    2 Spain 13.928 (7/7)
    3 Germany 13.500 (6/7)
    4 Italy 13.142 (6/7)

    5 Portugal 8.400 (3/5)
    6 Scotland 7.250 (1/4)
    7 Israel 7.000 (1/4)

    Nice! But what's with those darned Scots!



    The gap between the top 4 and the rest opens ever wider.

    Teams from the top leagues starting to take the EL seriously...
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