...WTF??? I guess it should not be that surprising based on his lifestyle and he was in Hospital a couple of weeks ago with something serious, but still WTF, too early
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 11:34:53 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
...WTF??? I guess it should not be that surprising based on his lifestyle and he was in Hospital a couple of weeks ago with something serious, but still WTF, too early
Very sad. A true legend. RIP Diego Armando Maradona.
RMFor what it's worth the sad news has prompted me to order a copy of the book Maradona co-authored with Daniel Arcucci "Touched by God: How we won the Mexico '86 World Cup". I look forward to an insight on the tournament win that secured Maradona's status amongst the true greats of football.
...
...Very sad news. Thanks for the memories and rest in peace, Don Diego.
I'll always cherish this moment:
https://globoesporte.globo.com/video/maradona-e-pele-fazem-embaixadinhas-de-cabeca-em-programa-de-televisao-9051368.ghtml
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 11:34:53 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
...WTF??? I guess it should not be that surprising based on his lifestyle and he was in Hospital a couple of weeks ago with something serious, but still WTF, too early
...Sad news
Thinking about it, his flaws were a big part of what made Diego Diego.
...I am surprised at my own reaction to Maradona's death. I never was a fan of a team he played on, and actively despised him during Italia '90. And still, I have just been magnetically attracted to all things Maradona in the past 48 hours, and I am genuinely sad to see him gone. Maybe it's the feeling of losing a part of my childhood.
I'll always cherish this moment:
https://globoesporte.globo.com/video/maradona-e-pele-fazem-embaixadinhas
-de-cabeca-em-programa-de-televisao-9051368.ghtml
Esa no, esa noooo!!!! (Not that one, not that one...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkm0RJlsfvc
at 12:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgnekYgeEAE
at 1:29
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 11:34:53 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:you spoke for me there, Futbolmetrix. I was so overwhelmed by Brazil fan-dom that I could see nothing good about him, not even in '86. And now i cannot get enough of him.
...I am surprised at my own reaction to Maradona's death. I never was a fan of a team he played on, and actively despised him during Italia '90. And still, I have just been magnetically attracted to all things Maradona in the past 48 hours, and I am genuinely sad to see him gone. Maybe it's the feeling of losing a part of my childhood.
Was he the best to have ever played the game? Probably not, if you just look at the numbers. But football is so much more than just the numbers. We watch the game because of all the narratives, the stories, the symbols: little Uruguay that could, Italy and the rise of fascism, Austria's Wunderteam broken up by the Anschluss, the English punished for their arrogance in 1950 and then again in 1953, the Brazilians punished for their arrogance in the Maracanazo, the Magical Magyars broken up because of political events, the magic of a 17-year old shining on the greatest stage, the controversies of 1962 and 1966, Brazil's perfection in 1970, the Clockwork Orange as a symbol of the rebellious 1970s only to be crushed by the methodic Germans, Argentina and the dictators, Paolo Rossi's redemption, Schumacher and Battiston, Schillaci's spirited eyes, the tragedy of Colombia in 1994, France's multiethnic team triumphing in 1998, Ronaldo's redemption in 2002, the Korean crowds and the referees, Zidane's tragic exit in 2006, Luiz Suarez dashing the hopes of an entire continent, Spain's tiki-taka, the Mineirazo and Messi falling short, Russia's world cup which is still too close in memory to figure out its story really is...and that's just limiting oneself to the World Cup.
Anyway, among all these stories, none is greater than Maradona. And not just in 1986.
Futbolmetrix wrote:I've been feeling a lot like that too. Thanks for putting it into words.
...I am surprised at my own reaction to Maradona's death. I never was a fan
of a team he played on, and actively despised him during Italia '90. And still, I have just been magnetically attracted to all things Maradona in
the past 48 hours, and I am genuinely sad to see him gone. Maybe it's the feeling of losing a part of my childhood.
Was he the best to have ever played the game? Probably not, if you justSeconded.
look at the numbers. But football is so much more than just the numbers.
We watch the game because of all the narratives, the stories, the symbols: [SNIP]
Anyway, among all these stories, none is greater than Maradona. And not
just in 1986.
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 11:34:53 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Was he the best to have ever played the game? Probably not, if you just look at the numbers. But football is so much more than just the numbers. We watch the game because of all the narratives, the stories, the
symbols: little Uruguay that could, Italy and the rise of fascism, Austria's Wunderteam broken up by the Anschluss, the English punished for their arrogance in 1950 and then again in 1953, the Brazilians punished
for their arrogance in the Maracanazo, the Magical Magyars broken up because of political events, the magic of a 17-year old shining on the greatest stage, the controversies of 1962 and 1966, Brazil's perfection
in 1970, the Clockwork Orange as a symbol of the rebellious 1970s only to be crushed by the methodic Germans, Argentina and the dictators, Paolo Rossi's redemption, Schumacher and Battiston, Schillaci's
spirited eyes, the tragedy of Colombia in 1994, France's multiethnic team triumphing in 1998, Ronaldo's redemption in 2002, the Korean crowds and the referees, Zidane's tragic exit in 2006, Luiz Suarez dashing the
hopes of an entire continent, Spain's tiki-taka, the Mineirazo and Messi falling short, Russia's world cup which is still too close in memory to figure out its story really is...
Futbolmetrix escreveu:Maradona's legend will be greatly enhanced by his (relatively) early demise. Just as happens with many musicians.
Futbolmetrix wrote:I've been feeling a lot like that too. Thanks for putting it into words.
...I am surprised at my own reaction to Maradona's death. I never was a fan of a team he played on, and actively despised him during Italia '90. And still, I have just been magnetically attracted to all things Maradona in the past 48 hours, and I am genuinely sad to see him gone. Maybe it's the feeling of losing a part of my childhood.
I guess I have to thank Maradona for my life's first big "futebol sucks" moment, in Italia'90, as he dismantled the Brazilian defense before playing that assist to Caniggia. It was quite a blow to a 9-year old fully caught
up with World Cup fever. I remember I didn't begrudge him for that at the time (the Brazilians' fury was mostly focused on Lazaroni and Dunga anyway), but it was a big deal. His only win ever over Brasil, of course it had to be a big one.
But yeah, it feels like losing a part of my childhood. He was the biggest name in football when I started following the sport, his feats in 1986 were still fresh in everyone's memories back then. We did get to see him at the top of the world. And then, this. Feels too sudden, too soon.
2020 sucks immensurably. Thank heavens it's ending.
Was he the best to have ever played the game? Probably not, if you just look at the numbers. But football is so much more than just the numbers. We watch the game because of all the narratives, the stories, the symbols: [SNIP]Seconded.
Anyway, among all these stories, none is greater than Maradona. And not just in 1986.
May he rest in peace. His legend should last for a very long time.
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 11:34:53 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
...WTF??? I guess it should not be that surprising based on his lifestyle and he was in Hospital a couple of weeks ago with something serious, but still WTF, too early
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 11:47:32 AM UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 11:34:53 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote: >>> ...
WTF??? I guess it should not be that surprising based on his lifestyle and he was in Hospital a couple of weeks ago with something serious, but still WTF, too early
But not a mention of Papa Bouba Diop, which is a far sadder story in that he was only 40, I assume it has something to do with him being black and all of you being racists.
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 11:47:32 AM UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 11:34:53 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:But not a mention of Papa Bouba Diop, which is a far sadder story in that he was only 40, I assume it has something to do with him being black and all of you being racists.
...WTF??? I guess it should not be that surprising based on his lifestyle and he was in Hospital a couple of weeks ago with something serious, but still WTF, too early
On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:36:18 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Russia's world cup which is still too close in memory to figure out its story really is...
...Germany ;-)
On 2020-11-30, Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:36:18 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Russia's world cup which is still too close in memory to figure out its story really is...
...Germany ;-)
The defending champions collapsing in the group stage, is pretty much standard these days.
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