• Use-the-NT 2020: Match Day 4

    From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Nov 22 15:11:08 2020
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round. Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:
    Armata
    DF: D'Ambrosio, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Crsitante, Jorginho, Parolo
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano, Kean --, Petagna
    Babes
    DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kj|ar
    MF: Skov, Kulusevski, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
    FW: Zlatan, Haaland --, Dolberg, Ishak, Elyounoussi
    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Willock, Nketiah
    Defaults
    DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
    MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
    FW: Messi --, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario, A. Gomez
    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo
    Midgets
    D: Ramos, Monreal, Alba
    MF: Marcos Llorente, Ferran Torres, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz
    F: Fati, Alcacer (c), Morata, Pedri, Castillejo
    Pact
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk
    Peaceniks
    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Taha
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah --, Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi
    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Herrera, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano, David, Bailey --, Corona
    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
    MF: Bruno Fernades, Pizzi, Renato Saches, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Cristiano Ronaldo (c), Rafael Le|uo Waffles/Windmills
    DF: Meunier, Hateboer, Ake
    MF Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, Wijnaldum, T. Hazard
    FW: Malen (c), Promes, Luuk De Jong, E. Hazard
    Watch
    DF: S. Bender, Boateng, Ginter
    MF: Kimmich, Brandt, Hoffman, Dahoud, G||tze
    FW: San|-, Werner, M|+ller(C), Gnabry
    Wonderland
    DF: Lainer, Trauner, C. Fuchs
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Balic, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Arase
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara (c), Ragu++,
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 23 02:53:11 2020
    On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 6:11:11 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.

    Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:

    Armata
    DF: D'Ambrosio, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Crsitante, Jorginho, Parolo
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano, Kean --, Petagna
    Let's start with some changes to the Armata:
    DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
    MF: Barella, Jorginho, Bernardeschi, Cristante
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile (c), Kean, Petagna
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 23 21:32:00 2020
    On 2020-11-22 16:11, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.

    Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:

    Armata
    DF: D'Ambrosio, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Crsitante, Jorginho, Parolo
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano, Kean --, Petagna

    Babes
    DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kj|ar
    MF: Skov, Kulusevski, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
    FW: Zlatan, Haaland --, Dolberg, Ishak, Elyounoussi

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Willock, Nketiah

    Defaults
    DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
    MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
    FW: Messi --, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario, A. Gomez

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    D: Ramos, Monreal, Alba
    MF: Marcos Llorente, Ferran Torres, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz
    F: Fati, Alcacer (c), Morata, Pedri, Castillejo

    Pedri out, Moreno (Villareal) in.
    Llorente out, Fabian Ruiz in.
    Castillejo out, Diego Costa in.

    I am sure I will change all this tomorrow once I see the lineups/


    Pact
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk

    Peaceniks
    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Taha
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah --, Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Herrera, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano, David, Bailey --, Corona

    Out with McKennie, in with Roofe.
    Will you allow Kevin Theophile Catherine as a Martinquais ?
    Andres Andrade (LASK) is Panamanian and might be a defender. Will have
    to check on UEFA site.
    Eduardo Guerrero is also from Panama and plays for Tel Avid. Another
    option to consider.
    Then there's Guerrier (Haiti) of Qarabag
    ANd another Canadian, Manjrekar James of Midtjylland (has not played much)
    Does Mariano (Real MAdrdi) count as Dominican ?
    I think Pulisic is still injured and Adams is bit useless, as is Weah.



    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
    MF: Bruno Fernades, Pizzi, Renato Saches, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Cristiano Ronaldo (c), Rafael Le|uo Waffles/Windmills
    DF: Meunier, Hateboer, Ake
    MF Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, Wijnaldum, T. Hazard
    FW: Malen (c), Promes, Luuk De Jong, E. Hazard

    I think Lukaku is back, but E. Hazard has been MIA for a whole.
    So in case I forget to do anything tomorrow AM, make at least that
    change (E. Hazard out, Lukaku in, and made captain)
    Ake was out injured so out with him as well. Replace with Alderweireld.


    Watch
    DF: S. Bender, Boateng, Ginter
    MF: Kimmich, Brandt, Hoffman, Dahoud, G||tze
    FW: San|-, Werner, M|+ller(C), Gnabry

    Wonderland
    DF: Lainer, Trauner, C. Fuchs
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Balic, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Arase
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara (c), Ragu++,


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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 04:14:36 2020
    On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 5:53:13 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
    MF: Barella, Jorginho, Bernardeschi, Cristante
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile (c), Kean, Petagna

    Did I say Petagna? I meant Insigne. Chiesa unlikely to start, but I'll keep him in the lineup.

    DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
    MF: Barella, Jorginho, Bernardeschi, Cristante
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile (c), Kean, Insigne
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 04:26:03 2020
    On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 11:32:05 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
    Pedri out, Moreno (Villareal) in.
    Llorente out, Fabian Ruiz in.
    Castillejo out, Diego Costa in.
    Noted
    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Herrera, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano, David, Bailey --, Corona
    Out with McKennie, in with Roofe.
    OK, but McKennie is expected to start, and probably in an advanced-ish position too, at home to Ferencvaros. You may regret this.
    Will you allow Kevin Theophile Catherine as a Martinquais ?
    Don't think so.
    Andres Andrade (LASK) is Panamanian and might be a defender. Will have
    to check on UEFA site.
    Eduardo Guerrero is also from Panama and plays for Tel Avid. Another
    option to consider.
    There's also Nick Blackman of Maccabi TA and Barbados.
    Then there's Guerrier (Haiti) of Qarabag
    ANd another Canadian, Manjrekar James of Midtjylland (has not played much) Does Mariano (Real MAdrdi) count as Dominican ?
    I guess that the Roofe rule applies here. If you don't pick him for the Midgets, then he's eligible for the Rockers.
    I think Pulisic is still injured and Adams is bit useless, as is Weah.
    I think Lukaku is back, but E. Hazard has been MIA for a whole.
    So in case I forget to do anything tomorrow AM, make at least that
    change (E. Hazard out, Lukaku in, and made captain)
    Ake was out injured so out with him as well. Replace with Alderweireld.
    Noted.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 04:32:39 2020
    On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 6:11:11 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.

    Pact
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk
    There was a slight improvement in the Pact's performance last time out, but still way too many goals left out. The Secretariat is still not happy. Let's go back to a more traditional lineup, but throw in hattrick boy Julis.
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Erokhin, Tsygankov, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 04:42:50 2020
    On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 6:11:11 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.

    Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:


    Peaceniks
    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Taha
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah --, Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi
    Hm...Salah tested negative and is poised to return, but is that enough to make him keep the armband instead of Europa League goal-scoring machine Moanes Dabbur? Let's go with Dabbur. Also, let's put Celtic's Hatem Abd Elhamed in defense.
    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Abd Elhamed
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah, Dabbur, Azmoun (c), Solomon, Zahavi
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 04:58:45 2020
    On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 12:11:11 AM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.

    Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:


    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Willock, Nketiah
    I've already forgotten again who Justin is.
    Mount never does anything, and neither does Foden, but let's leave them
    in for the moment. Also have to wait and see if Greenwood's still
    in the doghouse or gets a game.
    Justin, Willock out
    Walker, Abraham in
    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah

    Defaults
    DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
    MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
    FW: Messi --, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario, A. Gomez
    Messi didn't travel with the team to Ukraine.

    Wonderland
    DF: Lainer, Trauner, C. Fuchs
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Balic, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Arase
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara (c), Ragu++
    Ragu++ tore his cruciate ligament against Antwerp.
    Arase scored last time but is terrible.
    Two youngsters in instead, Rapid's starlet Yusuf Demir and Young Boys striker Felix Mambimbi.
    Liendl in for Junuzovi-c. Save us, Maradona of the Alps!
    No idea who should be captain, let's try Baumgartner.
    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Freuler, Bali-c, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 05:01:33 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:26:05 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 11:32:05 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:

    Does Mariano (Real MAdrdi) count as Dominican ?

    I guess that the Roofe rule applies here. If you don't pick him for the Midgets, then he's eligible for the Rockers.

    Is Mariano anywhere near the Spanish team, or has he been chasing clouds all these years?

    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 06:55:39 2020
    This never ending football season is never ending. Tempted to put in the soon to be youngest player to ever play in the UCL, Dortmund do play In Brugges.
    Boateng scored last week, so therefore will never score again, Hummels is back. I dont recall if Kimmich was covided or injured? I will give the oaf one more shot at captain, he is due some goals and they do play Casino. though, I am thinking Bayern may rest players, so prolly make late changes.
    I am trying to limit the team with players whose names only start with G.
    Oh and as for Marko Marin, he did score las week for whatever shit team he plays for in that backward shithole country he plays in
    Watch
    DF: S. Bender, Hummels, Ginter
    MF: Kimmich, Gundogan, Stindl, Goretzka, G||tze
    FW: San|-, Werner, M|+ller(C), Gnabry

    Wonderland
    DF: Lainer, Trauner, C. Fuchs
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Balic, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Arase
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara (c), Ragu++,
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 07:40:20 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:01:35 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    I guess that the Roofe rule applies here. If you don't pick him for the Midgets, then he's eligible for the Rockers.
    Is Mariano anywhere near the Spanish team, or has he been chasing clouds all these years?

    Don't know. I googled "Mariano Diaz Luis Enrique" and it looks as if every single news agency in the world picked up Mariano's desire to be called up by Spain in September 2018, but not a single article said anything about whether the interest was mutual.

    So, definitely eligible for the Rockers.
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 09:15:09 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 12:11:11 AM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.

    Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:


    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Willock, Nketiah
    I've already forgotten again who Justin is.
    Mount never does anything, and neither does Foden, but let's leave them
    in for the moment. Also have to wait and see if Greenwood's still
    in the doghouse or gets a game.

    Justin, Willock out
    Walker, Abraham in

    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Mount and Hudson-Odoi both start, and I just know that the one of the two I don't pick
    will get on the scoresheet. And if I pick them both neither will. I'll call that Werner's UtN theorem.
    Ah what the hell, Mount out, Hudson-Odoi in. Thank me later, Mason.
    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 10:37:57 2020
    On 2020-11-23 21:32, MH wrote:
    On 2020-11-22 16:11, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back
    midweek round.

    Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:

    Armata
    DF: D'Ambrosio, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Crsitante, Jorginho, Parolo
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano, Kean --, Petagna

    Babes
    DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kj|ar
    MF: Skov, Kulusevski, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
    FW: Zlatan, Haaland --, Dolberg, Ishak, Elyounoussi

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Willock, Nketiah

    -a Defaults
    DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
    MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
    FW: Messi --, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario, A. Gomez

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    D: Ramos, Monreal, Alba
    MF: Marcos Llorente, Ferran Torres, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz
    F: Fati, Alcacer (c), Morata, Pedri, Castillejo

    Pedri out, Moreno (Villareal) in.
    Llorente out, Fabian Ruiz in.
    Castillejo out, Diego Costa in.

    I am sure I will change all this tomorrow once I see the lineups/

    Waiting....


    Pact
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk

    Peaceniks
    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Taha
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah --, Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF:-a Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Herrera, Alvarez
    FW:-a Lozano, David,-a Bailey --, Corona

    Out with McKennie, in with Roofe.
    Will you allow Kevin Theophile Catherine as a-a Martinquais ?
    Andres Andrade (LASK) is Panamanian and might be a defender.-a Will have
    to check on UEFA site.
    Eduardo Guerrero is also from Panama and plays for Tel Avid.-a Another option to consider.
    Then there's Guerrier (Haiti) of Qarabag
    ANd another Canadian, Manjrekar James of Midtjylland (has not played much) Does Mariano (Real MAdrdi) count as Dominican ?
    I think Pulisic is still injured and Adams is bit useless, as is Weah.

    Andrade is a defender. So put him in for Morgan.



    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
    MF: Bruno Fernades, Pizzi, Renato Saches, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Cristiano Ronaldo (c), Rafael Le|uo >> Waffles/Windmills
    DF:-a Meunier, Hateboer, Ake
    MF-a-a Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, Wijnaldum, T. Hazard
    FW: Malen (c), Promes, Luuk De Jong, E. Hazard

    I think Lukaku is back, but E. Hazard has been MIA for a whole.
    So in case I forget to do anything tomorrow AM, make at least that
    change (E. Hazard out, Lukaku in, and made captain)
    Ake was out injured so out with him as well.-a Replace with Alderweireld.

    Wijnaldum out, Doku (Rennes) in for him.
    Update and complete new lineup at 12:30 or so.


    Watch
    DF: S. Bender, Boateng, Ginter
    MF: Kimmich, Brandt, Hoffman, Dahoud, G||tze
    FW: San|-, Werner, M|+ller(C), Gnabry

    Wonderland
    -a DF: Lainer, Trauner, C. Fuchs
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Balic, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Arase
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara (c), Ragu++,



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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 10:19:09 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 6:15:12 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 12:11:11 AM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.

    Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:


    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Willock, Nketiah
    I've already forgotten again who Justin is.
    Mount never does anything, and neither does Foden, but let's leave them
    in for the moment. Also have to wait and see if Greenwood's still
    in the doghouse or gets a game.

    Justin, Willock out
    Walker, Abraham in

    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Mount and Hudson-Odoi both start, and I just know that the one of the two I don't pick
    will get on the scoresheet. And if I pick them both neither will. I'll call that Werner's UtN theorem.

    Ah what the hell, Mount out, Hudson-Odoi in. Thank me later, Mason.
    The evil Godz begrudge me even my theorem.
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 11:44:33 2020
    On 2020-11-24 10:15, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 12:11:11 AM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.

    Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:


    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Willock, Nketiah
    I've already forgotten again who Justin is.
    Mount never does anything, and neither does Foden, but let's leave them
    in for the moment. Also have to wait and see if Greenwood's still
    in the doghouse or gets a game.

    Justin, Willock out
    Walker, Abraham in

    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah

    Mount and Hudson-Odoi both start, and I just know that the one of the two I don't pick
    will get on the scoresheet. And if I pick them both neither will. I'll call that Werner's UtN theorem.

    Ah what the hell, Mount out, Hudson-Odoi in. Thank me later, Mason.

    Well that attempt to placate the numina of use-the-NT worked rather well.


    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 11:06:16 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:32:42 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Pact
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk
    There was a slight improvement in the Pact's performance last time out, but still way too many goals left out. The Secretariat is still not happy. Let's go back to a more traditional lineup, but throw in hattrick boy Julis.

    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Erokhin, Tsygankov, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis
    Tsygankov out, Buyalskiy in.
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 12:17:02 2020
    On 2020-11-22 16:11, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.

    Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:

    Armata
    DF: D'Ambrosio, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Crsitante, Jorginho, Parolo
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano, Kean --, Petagna

    Babes
    DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kj|ar
    MF: Skov, Kulusevski, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
    FW: Zlatan, Haaland --, Dolberg, Ishak, Elyounoussi

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Willock, Nketiah

    Defaults
    DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
    MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
    FW: Messi --, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario, A. Gomez

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    D: Ramos, Monreal, Alba
    MF: Marcos Llorente, Ferran Torres, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz
    F: Fati, Alcacer (c), Morata, Pedri, Castillejo

    Pact
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk

    Peaceniks
    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Taha
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah --, Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF: Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Herrera, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano, David, Bailey --, Corona

    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
    MF: Bruno Fernades, Pizzi, Renato Saches, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Cristiano Ronaldo (c), Rafael Le|uo Waffles/Windmills
    DF: Meunier, Hateboer, Ake
    MF Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, Wijnaldum, T. Hazard
    FW: Malen (c), Promes, Luuk De Jong, E. Hazard


    Wanderson is Belgian or at least eligible for Belgium ?


    Watch
    DF: S. Bender, Boateng, Ginter
    MF: Kimmich, Brandt, Hoffman, Dahoud, G||tze
    FW: San|-, Werner, M|+ller(C), Gnabry

    Wonderland
    DF: Lainer, Trauner, C. Fuchs
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Balic, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Arase
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara (c), Ragu++,


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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 19:40:01 2020
    On 2020-11-22, Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> wrote:

    Babes
    DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kjur
    MF: Skov, Kulusevski, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
    FW: Zlatan, Haaland -, Dolberg, Ishak, Elyounoussi

    What is wrong with Italian coaches? Kulusevski benched, replace him
    with Moldevian Eikrem.
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 12:42:06 2020
    On 2020-11-24 10:37, MH wrote:
    On 2020-11-23 21:32, MH wrote:
    On 2020-11-22 16:11, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back
    midweek round.

    Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:

    Armata
    DF: D'Ambrosio, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Crsitante, Jorginho, Parolo
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano, Kean --, Petagna

    Babes
    DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kj|ar
    MF: Skov, Kulusevski, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
    FW: Zlatan, Haaland --, Dolberg, Ishak, Elyounoussi

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Willock, Nketiah

    -a Defaults
    DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
    MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
    FW: Messi --, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario, A. Gomez

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    D: Ramos, Monreal, Alba
    MF: Marcos Llorente, Ferran Torres, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz
    F: Fati, Alcacer (c), Morata, Pedri, Castillejo

    Pedri out, Moreno (Villareal) in.
    Llorente out, Fabian Ruiz in.
    Castillejo out, Diego Costa in.

    I am sure I will change all this tomorrow once I see the lineups/

    Waiting....

    Pedri back in, Fati out.
    Alba out, Morata out, Ramos out.

    In Nacho, Carvajal, and Dani Olmo
    NEW

    D: Nacho (RM), Carvajal (RM), Monreal (Real Soc)
    MF:F. Torres (Man City), Oyarzabal (REal Soc) Brahim Diaz (Milan) Ander Herrera (PSG)
    F: Pedri (Barca) Moreno (Villareal) Alcacer (Villareal) COsta
    (Atletico) Olmo (RB Leipzig)

    Doubt this will last past tomorrow morning




    Pact
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk

    Peaceniks
    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Taha
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah --, Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF:-a Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Herrera, Alvarez
    FW:-a Lozano, David,-a Bailey --, Corona

    Out with McKennie, in with Roofe.
    Will you allow Kevin Theophile Catherine as a-a Martinquais ?
    Andres Andrade (LASK) is Panamanian and might be a defender.-a Will
    have to check on UEFA site.
    Eduardo Guerrero is also from Panama and plays for Tel Avid.-a Another
    option to consider.
    Then there's Guerrier (Haiti) of Qarabag
    ANd another Canadian, Manjrekar James of Midtjylland (has not played
    much)
    Does Mariano (Real MAdrdi) count as Dominican ?
    I think Pulisic is still injured and Adams is bit useless, as is Weah.

    Andrade is a defender.-a So put him in for Morgan.


    NEW

    D: Dest, Andrade, Wingo (Molde)
    MF: Mckennie (Juve) Reyna (BvB), Arfield (Rangers) Herrera (Atletico)
    F: Lozano (Napoli), Bailey (Captain, Leverskusen), Corona (Porto), David (Lille) Roofe (Rangers)



    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
    MF: Bruno Fernades, Pizzi, Renato Saches, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Cristiano Ronaldo (c), Rafael Le|uo >>> Waffles/Windmills
    DF:-a Meunier, Hateboer, Ake
    MF-a-a Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, Wijnaldum, T. Hazard
    FW: Malen (c), Promes, Luuk De Jong, E. Hazard


    NEW
    D: Meunier, De Ligt, Hateboer
    MF: Vanaken, T. Hazard, De Bruyne, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku (C), E. Hazard, L. de Jong, Malen (PSV), Promes (Ajax)



    I think Lukaku is back, but E. Hazard has been MIA for a whole.
    So in case I forget to do anything tomorrow AM, make at least that
    change (E. Hazard out, Lukaku in, and made captain)
    Ake was out injured so out with him as well.-a Replace with Alderweireld.

    Wijnaldum out, Doku (Rennes) in for him.
    Update and complete new lineup at 12:30 or so.


    Watch
    DF: S. Bender, Boateng, Ginter
    MF: Kimmich, Brandt, Hoffman, Dahoud, G||tze
    FW: San|-, Werner, M|+ller(C), Gnabry

    Wonderland
    -a DF: Lainer, Trauner, C. Fuchs
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Balic, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Arase
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara (c), Ragu++,




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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 12:44:39 2020
    On 2020-11-24 12:42, MH wrote:
    On 2020-11-24 10:37, MH wrote:
    On 2020-11-23 21:32, MH wrote:
    On 2020-11-22 16:11, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back
    midweek round.

    Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:

    Armata
    DF: D'Ambrosio, Florenzi, Bonucci
    MF: Barella, Crsitante, Jorginho, Parolo
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Politano, Kean --, Petagna

    Babes
    DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kj|ar
    MF: Skov, Kulusevski, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
    FW: Zlatan, Haaland --, Dolberg, Ishak, Elyounoussi

    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Willock, Nketiah

    -a Defaults
    DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
    MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
    FW: Messi --, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario, A. Gomez

    Jogo
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar (C), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres, Rodrygo

    Midgets
    D: Ramos, Monreal, Alba
    MF: Marcos Llorente, Ferran Torres, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz
    F: Fati, Alcacer (c), Morata, Pedri, Castillejo

    Pedri out, Moreno (Villareal) in.
    Llorente out, Fabian Ruiz in.
    Castillejo out, Diego Costa in.

    I am sure I will change all this tomorrow once I see the lineups/

    Waiting....

    Pedri back in, Fati out.
    Alba out, Morata out, Ramos out.

    In Nacho, Carvajal, and Dani Olmo
    NEW

    D:-a Nacho (RM), Carvajal (RM), Monreal (Real Soc)
    MF:F. Torres (Man City), Oyarzabal (REal Soc) Brahim Diaz (Milan) Ander Herrera (PSG)
    F:-a Pedri (Barca) Moreno (Villareal) Alcacer (Villareal) COsta
    (Atletico) Olmo (RB Leipzig)

    Doubt this will last past tomorrow morning




    Pact
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Marlos, Kuchaev, Erokhin, Moder
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk

    Peaceniks
    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Taha
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah --, Dabbur, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi

    Rockers
    DF: Dest, Morgan, Foulquier
    MF:-a Reyna, McKennie, Arfield, Herrera, Alvarez
    FW:-a Lozano, David,-a Bailey --, Corona

    Out with McKennie, in with Roofe.
    Will you allow Kevin Theophile Catherine as a-a Martinquais ?
    Andres Andrade (LASK) is Panamanian and might be a defender.-a Will
    have to check on UEFA site.
    Eduardo Guerrero is also from Panama and plays for Tel Avid.-a Another
    option to consider.
    Then there's Guerrier (Haiti) of Qarabag
    ANd another Canadian, Manjrekar James of Midtjylland (has not played
    much)
    Does Mariano (Real MAdrdi) count as Dominican ?
    I think Pulisic is still injured and Adams is bit useless, as is Weah.

    Andrade is a defender.-a So put him in for Morgan.


    NEW

    D: Dest, Andrade, Wingo (Molde)
    MF: Mckennie (Juve) Reyna (BvB), Arfield (Rangers) Herrera (Atletico)
    F: Lozano (Napoli), Bailey (Captain, Leverskusen), Corona (Porto), David (Lille) Roofe (Rangers)



    Tugas
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
    MF: Bruno Fernades, Pizzi, Renato Saches, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho, Cristiano Ronaldo (c), Rafael >>>> Le|uo
    Waffles/Windmills
    DF:-a Meunier, Hateboer, Ake
    MF-a-a Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, Wijnaldum, T. Hazard
    FW: Malen (c), Promes, Luuk De Jong, E. Hazard


    NEW
    D: Meunier, De Ligt, Hateboer
    MF:-a Vanaken, T. Hazard, De Bruyne, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku (C), E. Hazard, L. de Jong, Malen (PSV), Promes (Ajax)

    Sorry, that should be Doku instead of Promes there. I already put in
    Doku for Wijnaldum, and he has already played.




    I think Lukaku is back, but E. Hazard has been MIA for a whole.
    So in case I forget to do anything tomorrow AM, make at least that
    change (E. Hazard out, Lukaku in, and made captain)
    Ake was out injured so out with him as well.-a Replace with Alderweireld. >>
    Wijnaldum out, Doku (Rennes) in for him.
    Update and complete new lineup at 12:30 or so.




    Watch
    DF: S. Bender, Boateng, Ginter
    MF: Kimmich, Brandt, Hoffman, Dahoud, G||tze
    FW: San|-, Werner, M|+ller(C), Gnabry

    Wonderland
    -a DF: Lainer, Trauner, C. Fuchs
    MF: Junuzovi-c, Freuler, Balic, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Arase
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara (c), Ragu++,





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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 11:53:09 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 2:17:05 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
    Wanderson is Belgian or at least eligible for Belgium ?

    Apparently so, even though he counts as Brazilian for efficiency scores purposes (for the moment).
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 11:54:55 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 6:15:12 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 12:11:11 AM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    European Cups are back, for the first of a back-to-back-to back midweek round.

    Default Use-the-NT lineups the one that finished the last round:


    Bungs
    DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Justin
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Willock, Nketiah

    I've already forgotten again who Justin is.
    Mount never does anything, and neither does Foden, but let's leave them
    in for the moment. Also have to wait and see if Greenwood's still
    in the doghouse or gets a game.

    Justin, Willock out
    Walker, Abraham in

    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Foden, Mount, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Mount and Hudson-Odoi both start, and I just know that the one of the two I don't pick
    will get on the scoresheet. And if I pick them both neither will. I'll call that Werner's UtN theorem.

    Ah what the hell, Mount out, Hudson-Odoi in. Thank me later, Mason.

    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Greenwood, Maddison
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Greenwood on the bench. Might score as a substitute anyway, but I've got
    to play the percentage.
    And I need more Europa League players anyway. Winks in for the moment.
    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 11:55:28 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:53:12 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 2:17:05 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
    Wanderson is Belgian or at least eligible for Belgium ?

    Apparently so, even though he counts as Brazilian for efficiency scores purposes (for the moment).

    I had no idea, and he played a year in Austria.

    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 11:58:53 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 2:42:11 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:


    D: Nacho (RM), Carvajal (RM), Monreal (Real Soc)
    MF:F. Torres (Man City), Oyarzabal (REal Soc) Brahim Diaz (Milan) Ander Herrera (PSG)
    F: Pedri (Barca) Moreno (Villareal) Alcacer (Villareal) COsta
    (Atletico) Olmo (RB Leipzig)

    Got it. Alcacer still the captain by default.


    D: Dest, Andrade, Wingo (Molde)
    MF: Mckennie (Juve) Reyna (BvB), Arfield (Rangers) Herrera (Atletico)
    F: Lozano (Napoli), Bailey (Captain, Leverskusen), Corona (Porto), David (Lille) Roofe (Rangers)

    OK.


    D: Meunier, De Ligt, Hateboer
    MF: Vanaken, T. Hazard, De Bruyne, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku (C), E. Hazard, L. de Jong, Malen (PSV), Promes (Ajax)

    OK, with Doku in place of Promes.
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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 13:18:25 2020
    Some left out goals hurt.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 13:30:43 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 4:18:27 PM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
    Some left out goals hurt.

    Twice.

    Lots of well picked goals and captains, though.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 14:09:46 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 4:30:46 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 4:18:27 PM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
    Some left out goals hurt.
    Twice.

    Lots of well picked goals and captains, though.

    Standings after the Tuesday matches (please correct any mistakes)

    Armata 4 (Immobile 2(x2))
    Babes 4 (Haaland 2(x2))
    Tugas 4 (B. Fernandes 2, Ronaldo (x2))
    Bungs 2 (Hudson-Odoi, Rashford)
    Jogo 2 (Neymar (x2))
    Pact 1 (Dzyuba)
    Rockers 1 (Dest)

    Everyone else on 0
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Nov 24 15:33:57 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 11:09:48 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 4:30:46 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 4:18:27 PM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
    Some left out goals hurt.
    Twice.

    Lots of well picked goals and captains, though.
    Standings after the Tuesday matches (please correct any mistakes)

    Armata 4 (Immobile 2(x2))
    Babes 4 (Haaland 2(x2))
    Tugas 4 (B. Fernandes 2, Ronaldo (x2))
    Bungs 2 (Hudson-Odoi, Rashford)
    Jogo 2 (Neymar (x2))
    Pact 1 (Dzyuba)
    Rockers 1 (Dest)

    Everyone else on 0
    A harsh matchday for the underdogs - Krasnodar, Rennes and Ferencv|iros all fell cruelly in stoppage time.
    What's more, Sevilla won't be able to win their umpteenth Europa League title! Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 04:14:28 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 6:33:59 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    A harsh matchday for the underdogs
    What's more, Sevilla won't be able to win their umpteenth Europa League title!

    That means a glorious day for all the EL underdogs!
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 06:22:33 2020
    Why do I even bother, the referees are always against the German teams, while giving french teams every bogus call. Ixion was right with his conspiracy theory all along, the pro bias and endless decisions for french teams, while everything going against German teams in all competitions is just ridiculous! Like he has always said, the only French team(including the NAT team) to ever win anything without ref bribing/cheating was the Marseille win of the champions league back in 93.
    In all honestly it was really bad, studs up challenges, dimaria, neymar and Mbappe diving all the time, every little call going for PSG...at one point I heard Nagelsmann(I assume) talk to a ref or linesman (in english) say something like, "certainly you must see that, you are only one metre away! I have to assume PSG have paid for the UCL this season. Bet your house on PSG, it is a sure thing.
    SO Kimmich is actually injured with a Meniscus tear (dont let them take out the meniscus Josh, not even sure trimming is such a good idea)and not the covid, which I thought. According to kicker Hermann will start for the foals, for the moment kicker is suggesting Sane will not start, but I will wait before I start calling in Pretenders and PSV players.
    DF: S. Bender, Hummels, Ginter
    MF: Hermann, Gundogan, Stindl, Goretzka, G||tze
    FW: San|-, Werner, M|+ller(C), Gnabry
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 09:15:08 2020
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 9:22:36 AM UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Why do I even bother, the referees are always against the German teams, while giving french teams every bogus call. Ixion was right with his conspiracy theory all along, the pro bias and endless decisions for french teams, while everything going against German teams in all competitions is just ridiculous! Like he has always said, the only French team(including the NAT team) to ever win anything without ref bribing/cheating was the Marseille win of the champions league back in 93.

    In all honestly it was really bad, studs up challenges, dimaria, neymar and Mbappe diving all the time, every little call going for PSG...at one point I heard Nagelsmann(I assume) talk to a ref or linesman (in english) say something like, "certainly you must see that, you are only one metre away! I have to assume PSG have paid for the UCL this season. Bet your house on PSG, it is a sure thing.

    SO Kimmich is actually injured with a Meniscus tear (dont let them take out the meniscus Josh, not even sure trimming is such a good idea)and not the covid, which I thought. According to kicker Hermann will start for the foals, for the moment kicker is suggesting Sane will not start, but I will wait before I start calling in Pretenders and PSV players.
    DF: S. Bender, Hummels, Ginter
    MF Neuhaus, Gundogan, Stindl, Goretzka, G||tze
    FW: San|-, Werner, M|+ller(C), Gnabry
    Hermann not starting, bring in Neuhaus
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 09:48:17 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Wonderland

    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Freuler, Bali-c, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir
    Gotta have to try Lazaro, after that wonder goal a while ago.
    In for Bali-c.
    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 09:51:03 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:54:57 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:


    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Walker is being rested. Let's stick with Man City and replace him
    with Stones.
    DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 10:48:39 2020
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 12:48:19 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Wonderland

    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Freuler, Bali-c, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir
    Gotta have to try Lazaro, after that wonder goal a while ago.
    In for Bali-c.

    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir
    No love for the Swiss contingent at Gladbach?
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 10:55:02 2020
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 7:48:42 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 12:48:19 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Wonderland

    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Freuler, Bali-c, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir
    Gotta have to try Lazaro, after that wonder goal a while ago.
    In for Bali-c.

    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir

    No love for the Swiss contingent at Gladbach?
    Evidently too little!
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 12:37:29 2020
    On 2020-11-24 12:58, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 2:42:11 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:


    D: Nacho (RM), Carvajal (RM), Monreal (Real Soc)
    MF:F. Torres (Man City), Oyarzabal (REal Soc) Brahim Diaz (Milan) Ander
    Herrera (PSG)
    F: Pedri (Barca) Moreno (Villareal) Alcacer (Villareal) COsta
    (Atletico) Olmo (RB Leipzig)

    Got it. Alcacer still the captain by default.

    Costa injured again. Put Granada's Molina back in.



    D: Dest, Andrade, Wingo (Molde)
    MF: Mckennie (Juve) Reyna (BvB), Arfield (Rangers) Herrera (Atletico)
    F: Lozano (Napoli), Bailey (Captain, Leverskusen), Corona (Porto), David
    (Lille) Roofe (Rangers)

    OK.


    Replace Wingo with Chris Richards of Bayern.
    No Herrera. Put Alvarez of Ajax back in for him
    And Mariano is starting so.... put him in instead of Roofe.


    D: Meunier, De Ligt, Hateboer
    MF: Vanaken, T. Hazard, De Bruyne, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku (C), E. Hazard, L. de Jong, Malen (PSV), Promes (Ajax)

    OK, with Doku in place of Promes.

    De Bruyne did not play. Curses. And Carrasco counts as a forward
    apparently. Him or Hazard ? I will stick with Hazard. Origi also starting..... does he ever score except as a sub ?

    I have a feeling my efficency is going to be very poor this round.


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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 12:38:37 2020
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 2:37:33 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:

    I have a feeling my efficency is going to be very poor this round.



    Well, Eden Hazard got on the scoresheet, and everywhere else they've gone on a goal strike, so efficiency scores should be quite high.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 12:49:35 2020
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 3:38:40 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 2:37:33 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:

    I have a feeling my efficency is going to be very poor this round.
    Well, Eden Hazard got on the scoresheet, and everywhere else they've gone on a goal strike, so efficiency scores should be quite high.

    Decent anti-weaufx. Lewa gets on the board just before half time.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 13:29:51 2020
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 3:49:38 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Decent anti-weaufx. Lewa gets on the board just before half time.

    Two quick goals by Rodrygo and Neres, and the Jogo joins the leading group with 4 goals.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 13:30:57 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 9:55:41 AM UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:

    I am trying to limit the team with players whose names only start with G.

    You should have gone with Gosens.
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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 14:59:07 2020
    On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 at 22:29:53 UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 3:49:38 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Decent anti-weaufx. Lewa gets on the board just before half time.
    Two quick goals by Rodrygo and Neres, and the Jogo joins the leading group with 4 goals.

    Rodrygo has been ruled an own goal (by Hakimi, for good measure).
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 15:00:35 2020
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 4:31:00 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 9:55:41 AM UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:

    I am trying to limit the team with players whose names only start with G.

    You should have gone with Gosens.
    Standings after the Wednesday matches:
    Armata 4 (Immobile 2(x2))
    Babes 4 (Haaland 2(x2))
    Tugas 4 (B. Fernandes 2, Ronaldo (x2))
    Jogo 4 (Neymar (x2), Rodrygo, Neres)
    Pact 3 (Dzyuba, Lewandowski (x2))
    Bungs 3 (Hudson-Odoi, Rashford, Foden)
    Watch 2 (Stindl, San|-)
    Rockers 1 (Dest)
    Waffles/Windmills 1 (E. Hazard)
    Defaults, Midgets, Peaceniks, Wonderland 0
    Wide, wide open
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Nov 25 16:22:41 2020
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 5:59:09 PM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

    Rodrygo has been ruled an own goal (by Hakimi, for good measure).

    UEFA keeps on UEFAing. Such blatant disregard for Brazilian football would never have happened in a FIFA-sanctioned competition.
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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 09:24:28 2020
    On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 at 20:40:04 UTC+1, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
    On 2020-11-22, Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> wrote:

    Babes
    DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kj|ar
    MF: Skov, Kulusevski, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
    FW: Zlatan, Haaland --, Dolberg, Ishak, Elyounoussi
    What is wrong with Italian coaches? Kulusevski benched, replace him
    with Moldevian Eikrem.
    Loads of missing players + eternal september is stalled.
    Revised lineup:
    DF Sviatchenko & Scholz (Midtjylland), Kj|ar (Milan)
    MF Skov (Hoffenheim), Hussain (Molde), Gudmundsson &
    Karlsson (Alkmaar)
    FW Isak (Sociedad), Haaland (Dortmund) (C), Tankovic (AEK)
    Ishak (Lech), Elyounoussi (Celtic)
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 09:31:08 2020
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 6:48:19 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 1:58:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Wonderland

    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Freuler, Bali-c, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir

    Gotta have to try Lazaro, after that wonder goal a while ago.
    In for Bali-c.
    Meh. Stupid Swiss!

    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner (c), Fassnacht, Liendl
    FW: Sabitzer, Kara, Mambimbi, Demir
    Mambimbi on the bench. Bali-c or Gruber instead? Let's
    give Gruber a chance.
    Also, to atone for my lack of faith earlier this season, let's
    make Liendl captain. He's one of my favourite players in the
    Austrian Bundesliga anyway.
    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Liendl (c)
    FW: Sabitzer, Gruber, Kara, Demir
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 09:35:42 2020
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 6:51:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:54:57 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:


    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Walker is being rested. Let's stick with Man City and replace him
    with Stones.

    DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    No Maddison, no Vardy in the starting XI. Slackers.
    How many goals has Albrighton scored in his career? *checks* Ugh.
    Let's try young Barnes.
    DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Winks
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 09:41:41 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:14:39 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 5:53:13 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Did I say Petagna? I meant Insigne. Chiesa unlikely to start, but I'll keep him in the lineup.
    DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
    MF: Barella, Jorginho, Bernardeschi, Cristante
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile (c), Kean, Insigne

    Cristante out, Beltrame in.

    DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
    MF: Barella, Jorginho, Bernardeschi, Beltrame
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile (c), Kean, Insigne
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 09:44:34 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:32:42 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 6:11:11 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Erokhin, Tsygankov, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Yaremchuk, Julis
    Yaremchuk out. Will this be the week that CSKA Moscow finally does something for the Pact?
    Chalov in.
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Erokhin, Tsygankov, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Chalov, Julis
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 09:49:24 2020
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:42:52 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Abd Elhamed
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah, Dabbur, Azmoun (c), Solomon, Zahavi

    Hmm... why did the (c) got stuck to Azmoun instead of Dabbur? Anyway, Dabbur not even on the bench, replace with Biton of Maccabi TA.

    If the gamemaster allows, Zahavi captain.

    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Abd Elhamed
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah, Dan Biton, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi (c)
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 10:27:11 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:49:26 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:42:52 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Abd Elhamed
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah, Dabbur, Azmoun (c), Solomon, Zahavi

    Hmm... why did the (c) got stuck to Azmoun instead of Dabbur? Anyway, Dabbur not even on the bench, replace with Biton of Maccabi TA.

    If the gamemaster allows, Zahavi captain.

    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Abd Elhamed
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov, Taarabt
    FW: Salah, Dan Biton, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi (c)

    Goals by Paulinho and Barnes. The Tugas take the overall lead, Bungs catch up with the group on 4 goals.
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 11:32:18 2020
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 4:31:00 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 9:55:41 AM UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:

    I am trying to limit the team with players whose names only start with G.

    You should have gone with Gosens.
    I would have if I did not think he was inured/covided.
    It looks like Goetze is injured or covided, so bring in Belerabi
    DF: S. Bender, Hummels, Ginter
    MF Neuhaus, Gundogan, Stindl, Goretzka, Belerabi
    FW: San|-, Werner, M|+ller(C), Gnabry
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 11:45:34 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:41:43 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:14:39 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 5:53:13 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Did I say Petagna? I meant Insigne. Chiesa unlikely to start, but I'll keep him in the lineup.
    DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
    MF: Barella, Jorginho, Bernardeschi, Cristante
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile (c), Kean, Insigne

    Cristante out, Beltrame in.

    DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
    MF: Barella, Jorginho, Bernardeschi, Beltrame
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile (c), Kean, Insigne

    Politano in for Insigne
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 11:50:46 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:31:10 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:


    Also, to atone for my lack of faith earlier this season, let's
    make Liendl captain. He's one of my favourite players in the
    Austrian Bundesliga anyway.

    I betrayed my faith in him, he betrayed me. It's only fair.

    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner, Fassnacht, Liendl (c)
    FW: Sabitzer, Gruber, Kara, Demir

    Demir starts on the bench, but he is Rapid's best player and
    might change things around near the end... let's keep him on.

    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 11:54:52 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 1:27:13 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Goals by Paulinho and Barnes. The Tugas take the overall lead, Bungs catch up with the group on 4 goals.

    Two goals by Julis, 0 goals by Chalov. The Pact reaches the Tugas on 5 goals.

    Standings before the last batch of matches:

    Tuga, Pact 5
    Armata, Babes, Bungs 4
    Jogo 3
    Watch 2
    Peaceniks, Waffles/Windmills, Wonderland 1
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 11:55:53 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:35:44 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 6:51:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:54:57 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:


    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Walker is being rested. Let's stick with Man City and replace him
    with Stones.

    DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    No Maddison, no Vardy in the starting XI. Slackers.
    How many goals has Albrighton scored in his career? *checks* Ugh.
    Let's try young Barnes.

    DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Winks
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Who let Dele Alli out of the doghouse?
    Anyway, he's more likely to score than Winks, so in he goes.
    And what to do about Cap'n 'Arry, as usual on the bench?
    I'll keep him on, but as it's Dele's last chance to impress
    Mou, he gets the captain's armband instead.
    DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Alli (c)
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane, Nketiah
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 11:56:23 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:44:36 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Erokhin, Tsygankov, Mkhitaryan
    FW: Lewandowski --, Dzyuba, Chalov, Julis
    Mkhitaryan not starting...but I'll keep him in anyway
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 12:35:12 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 2:55:55 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    And what to do about Cap'n 'Arry, as usual on the bench?
    I'll keep him on, but as it's Dele's last chance to impress

    And he rewards Mourinho's trust with a very unselfish assist to Carlos Vinicius. Very unselfish.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 12:43:49 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 2:45:37 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Politano in for Insigne

    Yay! Armata now on top with 5
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 13:13:39 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 9:43:52 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 2:45:37 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Politano in for Insigne

    Yay! Armata now on top with 5

    Adjudged as an own goal.

    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 13:14:47 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 10:13:41 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 9:43:52 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 2:45:37 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Politano in for Insigne

    Yay! Armata now on top with 5

    Adjudged as an own goal.

    By an Italian, at least.

    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 13:22:02 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:55:55 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:35:44 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 6:51:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:54:57 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:


    DF: Walker, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    Walker is being rested. Let's stick with Man City and replace him
    with Stones.

    DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Winks
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah
    No Maddison, no Vardy in the starting XI. Slackers.
    How many goals has Albrighton scored in his career? *checks* Ugh.
    Let's try young Barnes.

    DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Winks
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford, Kane --, Nketiah

    Who let Dele Alli out of the doghouse?
    Anyway, he's more likely to score than Winks, so in he goes.
    I hate this game. Even more once you check out how Winks scored.
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 14:08:57 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:13:41 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 9:43:52 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 2:45:37 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Politano in for Insigne

    Yay! Armata now on top with 5
    Adjudged as an own goal.


    But now apparently given back to Politano?

    Anyway, quickie full time scores, before the full analysis.

    Tugas 6 (Pizzi's 81st minute goal gives the Tugas sole possession of first place, and the 10 point bonus)
    Babes, Pact, Rockers 5 (Captain Bailey, Lozano, Arfield and the Rockers rock!) Armata 4 or 5
    Bungs 4
    Jogo, Wonderland 3
    Waffles/Windmills, Watch 2
    Defaults, Peaceniks 1
    Midgets 0
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 17:05:53 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 5:09:00 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:


    But now apparently given back to Politano?


    And now an own goal again. Obviously, after I had done all the calculations assuming that it was a Politano goal...
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 17:29:01 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:05:55 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 5:09:00 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:


    But now apparently given back to Politano?

    And now an own goal again. Obviously, after I had done all the calculations assuming that it was a Politano goal...
    MD4 results and standings:
    Tugas 6
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
    MF: Bruno Fernades 2, Pizzi 1, Renato Saches, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho 1, Cristiano Ronaldo -- 1(x2), Rafael Le|uo
    Babes 5
    DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kj|ar
    MF: Skov, Hussain, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
    FW: Isak, Haaland -- 2(x2), Tankovic, Ishak 1, Elyounoussi
    Pact 5
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Buyalskiy, Mkhitaryan, Erokhin
    FW: Lewandowski -- 1(x2), Dzyuba 1, Chalov, Julis 2
    Rockers 5
    DF: Dest 1, Andrade, C. Richards
    MF: McKennie, Reyna, Arfield 1, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano 1, David, Bailey -- 1 (x2), Corona, Mariano Diaz
    Armata 4
    DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
    MF: Barella, Beltrame, Jorginho, Bernardeschi
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile -- 2 (x2), Kean, Politano
    Bungs 4
    DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi 1, Foden 1, Barnes 1, Alli (c)
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford 1, Kane, Nketiah
    Jogo 3
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar -- 1(x2), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres 1, Rodrygo
    Wonderland 3
    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner 1, Fassnacht, Liendl (c)
    FW: Sabitzer, Gruber, Kara 2, Demir
    Waffles/Windmills 2
    DF: Meunier, De Logt, Hateboer
    MF Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, T. Hazard
    FW: Lukaku --, E. Hazard 1, L. de Jong, Malen 1, Doku
    Watch 2
    DF: S. Bender, Hummels, Ginter
    MF: Neuhaus, Gundogan, Stindl 1, Goretzka, Bellarabi
    FW: San|- 1, Werner, M|+ller(C), Gnabry
    Defaults 1
    DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
    MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
    FW: Messi --, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario 1, A. Gomez
    Peaceniks 1
    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Abd Elhamed
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov 1, Taarabt
    FW: Salah, Dan Biton, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi
    Midgets 0
    D: Nacho, Carvajal. Monreal
    MF: Ferran Torres, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz, Herrera
    F: Pedri, Alcacer (c), Gerard Moreno, Molina, Olmo
    MD4 Points:
    Tugas 6 + 10 = 16
    Babes 5 + 4.33 = 9.33
    Pact 5 + 4.33 = 9.33
    Rockers 5 + 4.33 = 9.33
    Armata 4 + 1.5 = 5.5
    Bungs 4 + 1.5 = 5.5
    Jogo 3 + 0 = 3
    Wonderland 3 + 0 = 3
    Waffles/Windmills 2 + 0 = 2
    Watch 2 + 0 = 2
    Defaults 1 + 0 = 1
    Overall standings after MD4:
    TotGoals TotPoints
    Tugas 19 39.6
    Babes 19 36.08
    Bungs 17 29.1
    Midgets 13 24.1
    Pact 14 24.08
    Peaceniks 12 21.25
    Armata 11 16
    Rockers 10 14.93
    Waffles 9 14
    Defaults 7 12.75
    Watch 11 12.1
    Wonderland 9 11
    Jogo 6 6
    Finally, MD4 Best Lineups:
    Armata
    DF:
    MF: Parolo
    FW: Immobile 2 (x2)
    Babes
    DF: Wendt
    MF:
    FW: Haaland 2(x2), Braithwaite 2, Ishak
    Bungs
    DF: Thomas
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Winks [Madueke]
    FW: Sancho (x2), Rashford, Nelson, Balogun, Vardy
    Defaults
    DF:
    MF:
    FW: Alario (x2)
    Jogo
    DF:
    MF: Wanderson, Fransergio, Lucas Moura
    FW: Carlos Vinicius 2 (x2), Neymar, Neres
    Midgets
    DF:
    MF: Baena, Castillejo
    FW: Munir (x2), Morata, Alberto Soro
    Pact
    DF: Hancko
    MF: Gromov, Yurchenko, Lingr
    FW: Julis 2 (x2), Dzyuba, Lewandowski, Kabaiev, Schick
    Peaceniks
    DF: Mazraoui
    MF: El Musrati, Refaelov
    FW: Shviro (x2)
    Rockers
    DF: Dest
    MF: Arfield
    FW: Lozano (x2), Bailey, Roofe
    Tugas
    DF:
    MF: Bruno Fernandes 2 (x2), Sergio Oliveira, Pizzi, Gon|oalo Ramos
    FW: Cristiano Ronaldo, Paulinho
    Waffles/Windmills
    DF:
    MF: Gravenberch, Gerkens
    FW: E. Hazard (x2), Gakpo, Malen
    Watch
    DF: Gosens
    MF: Stindl, Demirbay
    FW: San|- (x2), Berisha
    Wonderland
    DF: Elvedi
    MF: Baumgartner, Knasm|+llner
    FW: Kara 2 (x2), Embolo
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 10:52:07 2020
    On 2020-11-25 12:37, MH wrote:
    On 2020-11-24 12:58, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 2:42:11 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:


    D: Nacho (RM), Carvajal (RM), Monreal (Real Soc)
    MF:F. Torres (Man City), Oyarzabal (REal Soc) Brahim Diaz (Milan) Ander
    Herrera (PSG)
    F: Pedri (Barca) Moreno (Villareal) Alcacer (Villareal) COsta
    (Atletico) Olmo (RB Leipzig)

    Got it. Alcacer still the captain by default.

    Costa injured again. Put Granada's Molina back in.

    Diaz out, Alcacer out.
    David Silva in, Bautista (Real Sociedad) in and captain..



    D: Dest, Andrade, Wingo (Molde)
    MF: Mckennie (Juve) Reyna (BvB), Arfield (Rangers) Herrera (Atletico)
    F: Lozano (Napoli), Bailey (Captain, Leverskusen), Corona (Porto), David >>> (Lille) Roofe (Rangers)

    OK.


    Replace Wingo with Chris Richards of Bayern.
    No Herrera.-a Put Alvarez of Ajax back in for him
    And Mariano is starting so.... put him in instead of Roofe.


    Wingo back in, Andrade out.




    D: Meunier, De Ligt, Hateboer
    MF: Vanaken, T. Hazard, De Bruyne, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku (C), E. Hazard, L. de Jong, Malen (PSV), Promes (Ajax)

    OK, with Doku in place of Promes.

    De Bruyne did not play.-a Curses. And Carrasco counts as a forward apparently.-a Him or Hazard ?-a I will stick with Hazard. Origi also starting..... does he ever score except as a sub ?

    Tielemans out, Praet in.

    I-a have a feeling my efficency is going to be very poor this round.



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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 12:34:42 2020
    On 2020-11-26 10:52, MH wrote:
    On 2020-11-25 12:37, MH wrote:
    On 2020-11-24 12:58, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 2:42:11 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:


    D: Nacho (RM), Carvajal (RM), Monreal (Real Soc)
    MF:F. Torres (Man City), Oyarzabal (REal Soc) Brahim Diaz (Milan) Ander >>>> Herrera (PSG)
    F: Pedri (Barca) Moreno (Villareal) Alcacer (Villareal) COsta
    (Atletico) Olmo (RB Leipzig)

    Got it. Alcacer still the captain by default.

    Costa injured again. Put Granada's Molina back in.

    Diaz out, Alcacer out.
    David Silva in,-a Bautista (Real Sociedad) in and captain..

    Silva and Bautista and Molina out,

    Portu and Merino (Real Sociedad) and Soldado (Granada - new Captain) in



    D: Dest, Andrade, Wingo (Molde)
    MF: Mckennie (Juve) Reyna (BvB), Arfield (Rangers) Herrera (Atletico)
    F: Lozano (Napoli), Bailey (Captain, Leverskusen), Corona (Porto),
    David
    (Lille) Roofe (Rangers)

    OK.


    Replace Wingo with Chris Richards of Bayern.
    No Herrera.-a Put Alvarez of Ajax back in for him
    And Mariano is starting so.... put him in instead of Roofe.


    Wingo back in, Andrade out.




    D: Meunier, De Ligt, Hateboer
    MF: Vanaken, T. Hazard, De Bruyne, Tielemans
    FW: Lukaku (C), E. Hazard, L. de Jong, Malen (PSV), Promes (Ajax)

    OK, with Doku in place of Promes.

    De Bruyne did not play.-a Curses. And Carrasco counts as a forward
    apparently.-a Him or Hazard ?-a I will stick with Hazard. Origi also
    starting..... does he ever score except as a sub ?

    Tielemans out, Praet in.

    I-a have a feeling my efficency is going to be very poor this round.




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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Nov 26 14:50:01 2020
    On 2020-11-26 12:54, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 1:27:13 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Goals by Paulinho and Barnes. The Tugas take the overall lead, Bungs catch up with the group on 4 goals.

    Two goals by Julis, 0 goals by Chalov. The Pact reaches the Tugas on 5 goals.

    Standings before the last batch of matches:

    Tuga, Pact 5
    Armata, Babes, Bungs 4
    Jogo 3
    Watch 2
    Peaceniks, Waffles/Windmills, Wonderland 1

    Rockers were also on one (Dest) but now on 5 (Arfield, Bailey X2 ,
    Lozano) and a missed one by Roofe.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 04:00:55 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 10:27:52 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
    On 2020-11-26 10:52, MH wrote:
    On 2020-11-25 12:37, MH wrote:
    On 2020-11-24 12:58, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Diaz out, Alcacer out.
    David Silva in, Bautista (Real Sociedad) in and captain..
    Silva and Bautista and Molina out,

    Portu and Merino (Real Sociedad) and Soldado (Granada - new Captain) in

    All these changes showed up in my feed just now. I'll update the lineups, but no effect on the scores, as far as I can tell.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 04:33:56 2020
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:29:03 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Tugas 6
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
    MF: Bruno Fernades 2, Pizzi 1, Renato Saches, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho 1, Cristiano Ronaldo -- 1(x2), Rafael Le|uo
    It helps the Tugas to have Cristiano Ronaldo plus a bunch of consistent goalscorers.

    Babes 5
    DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kj|ar
    MF: Skov, Hussain, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
    FW: Isak, Haaland -- 2(x2), Tankovic, Ishak 1, Elyounoussi
    Same for the Babes and Haaland

    Pact 5
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Buyalskiy, Mkhitaryan, Erokhin
    FW: Lewandowski -- 1(x2), Dzyuba 1, Chalov, Julis 2
    Whereas Lewandowski has not been as explosive as expected. This kid Lukas Julis is scoring at the pace of about one goal per game this season, expect to see him on some Bundesliga screen soon.
    Rockers 5
    DF: Dest 1, Andrade, C. Richards
    MF: McKennie, Reyna, Arfield 1, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano 1, David, Bailey -- 1 (x2), Corona, Mariano Diaz
    Big result for the Rockers in the fight to avoid the wooden spoon.

    Armata 4
    DF: Bastoni, Florenzi, Spinazzola
    MF: Barella, Beltrame, Jorginho, Bernardeschi
    FW: Chiesa, Falcinelli, Immobile -- 2 (x2), Kean, Politano
    Armata miraculously hanging in there. Parolo's goal killed the possibility of a perfect efficiency score.

    Bungs 4
    DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi 1, Foden 1, Barnes 1, Alli (c)
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford 1, Kane, Nketiah
    Some inspired picks by the Bungs manager, but also lots of left-out goals.
    Jogo 3
    DF: Marcelo, Bruno Fuchs, Marquinhos
    MF: Casemiro, Ot|ivio, Taison, Willian
    FW: Firmino, Neymar -- 1(x2), Gabriel Jesus, David Neres 1, Rodrygo
    The Jogo is not been managed very actively, but on the whole Brazilian players have been very quiet this year.
    Wonderland 3
    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner 1, Fassnacht, Liendl (c)
    FW: Sabitzer, Gruber, Kara 2, Demir
    A missed captain opportunity here?
    Waffles/Windmills 2
    DF: Meunier, De Logt, Hateboer
    MF Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, T. Hazard
    FW: Lukaku --, E. Hazard 1, L. de Jong, Malen 1, Doku
    Waffles/Windmills struggling this year.

    Watch 2
    DF: S. Bender, Hummels, Ginter
    MF: Neuhaus, Gundogan, Stindl 1, Goretzka, Bellarabi
    FW: San|- 1, Werner, M|+ller(C), Gnabry
    Without Marko Marin to anchor the team, it's been difficult for the Watch.
    Defaults 1
    DF: Acuna, Fazio, Tagliafico
    MF: Di Maria, L. Paredes, Lo Celso, Lisandro Martinez
    FW: Messi --, Lautaro Martinez, Dybala, Alario 1, A. Gomez
    More active management by the Defaults wouldn't have helped much here.

    Peaceniks 1
    DF: Hakimi, Bensebaini, Abd Elhamed
    MF: Ziyech, Mahrez, Refaelov 1, Taarabt
    FW: Salah, Dan Biton, Azmoun, Solomon, Zahavi
    A step back for Peace.
    Midgets 0
    D: Nacho, Carvajal. Monreal
    MF: Ferran Torres, Oyarzabal, Brahim Diaz, Herrera
    F: Pedri, Alcacer (c), Gerard Moreno, Molina, Olmo
    A surprising blank for the Midgets.
    MD4 Points:

    Tugas 6 + 10 = 16
    Babes 5 + 4.33 = 9.33
    Pact 5 + 4.33 = 9.33
    Rockers 5 + 4.33 = 9.33
    Armata 4 + 1.5 = 5.5
    Bungs 4 + 1.5 = 5.5
    Jogo 3 + 0 = 3
    Wonderland 3 + 0 = 3
    Waffles/Windmills 2 + 0 = 2
    Watch 2 + 0 = 2
    Defaults 1 + 0 = 1
    That Pizzi goal was worth more than 5 points in the overall standings, could prove decisive.


    Overall standings after MD4:

    TotGoals TotPoints
    Tugas 19 39.6
    Babes 19 36.08
    Bungs 17 29.1
    Midgets 13 24.1
    Pact 14 24.08
    Peaceniks 12 21.25
    Armata 11 16
    Rockers 10 14.93
    Waffles 9 14
    Defaults 7 12.75
    Watch 11 12.1
    Wonderland 9 11
    Jogo 6 6
    It's starting to look like a two-way race at the top, with the Bungs still with an outside chance to get back into it. Midgets, Pact and Peaceniks make up the comfortable mid-table. From the Armata on downwards it's a race to avoid the wooden spoon.

    Bungs
    DF: Thomas
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Winks [Madueke]
    FW: Sancho (x2), Rashford, Nelson, Balogun, Vardy
    A remarkable variety of scorers for the Bungs.
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  • From HASM@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 06:32:35 2020
    Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> writes:
    It helps the Tugas to have Cristiano Ronaldo
    Same for the Babes and Haaland
    Maybe in previous years. CR7 has one, Haaland has six goals and it is
    an easy -- choice.
    ... CR ...plus a bunch of consistent goalscorers.
    This here, yes, D. Jota 4, Pizzi 4, Paulinho 4, B. Fernandes 3,
    S. Oliveira 3. It's tempting to move the -- to one of them, but then the weaufx gods will have CR scoring a couple of hat tricks.
    That Pizzi goal was worth more than 5 points in the overall standings,
    could prove decisive.
    Those F1 points don't change the ranking that much, probably
    statistically expected.
    -- HASM
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  • From HASM@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 06:49:47 2020
    Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> writes:
    Finally, MD4 Best Lineups:
    Tugas
    DF:
    MF: Bruno Fernandes 2 (x2), Sergio Oliveira, Pizzi, Gon|oalo Ramos
    FW: Cristiano Ronaldo, Paulinho
    I don't remember seeing Gon|oalo Ramos has having scored. He shows up
    with zero goals on the UEFA. Livesoccertv has Tavernier(o.g.) and Pizzi,
    as the scorers for Benfica.
    -- HASM
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 07:00:43 2020
    On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 3:49:50 PM UTC+1, HASM wrote:
    Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> writes:


    Finally, MD4 Best Lineups:
    Tugas
    DF:
    MF: Bruno Fernandes 2 (x2), Sergio Oliveira, Pizzi, Gon|oalo Ramos
    FW: Cristiano Ronaldo, Paulinho

    I don't remember seeing Gon|oalo Ramos has having scored. He shows up
    with zero goals on the UEFA. Livesoccertv has Tavernier(o.g.) and Pizzi,
    as the scorers for Benfica.
    Yes, like the Napoli goal this was changed some time afterwards.
    I kind of have to agree with that, it was a pretty big deflection: https://streamja.com/OnKR7
    As for Politano/Anastasio, it's really anybody's guess: https://streamja.com/Jo9pX
    https://gfycat.com/impeccablefoolhardyatlasmoth
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 07:04:26 2020
    On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 1:33:59 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:29:03 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Bungs 4
    DF: Stones, Trippier, Tavernier
    MF: Hudson-Odoi 1, Foden 1, Barnes 1, Alli (c)
    FW: Abraham, Sterling, Rashford 1, Kane, Nketiah

    Some inspired picks by the Bungs manager, but also lots of left-out goals.

    Bungs
    DF: Thomas
    MF: Hudson-Odoi, Foden, Barnes, Winks [Madueke]
    FW: Sancho (x2), Rashford, Nelson, Balogun, Vardy

    A remarkable variety of scorers for the Bungs.

    It doesn't help me that with Kane and Vardy two of the most reliable scorers play in the Europa League, where they are only deployed if the match happens
    to shape up badly, like for Leicester in Braga.

    Also, Balogun WTF?


    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 07:22:13 2020
    On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 1:33:59 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:29:03 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Tugas 6
    F: Guerreiro, Cancelo, Dalot
    MF: Bruno Fernades 2, Pizzi 1, Renato Saches, Andr|- Horta
    FW: Jo|uo F|-lix, Diogo Jota, Paulinho 1, Cristiano Ronaldo -- 1(x2), Rafael Le|uo

    It helps the Tugas to have Cristiano Ronaldo plus a bunch of consistent goalscorers.
    Portuguese players have seriously impressed in recent times. Despite some hiccups,
    their clubs have performed consistently, too.
    Babes 5
    DF: Sviatchenko, Scholz, Kj|ar
    MF: Skov, Hussain, Gudmundsson, Karlsson
    FW: Isak, Haaland -- 2(x2), Tankovic, Ishak 1, Elyounoussi

    Same for the Babes and Haaland
    I'm very curious what will happen in summer. E.g. Man City are in dire need
    of a striker to replace Ag|+ero. To not have gone broke for him last winter because he had 'only' done it in the Austrian League looks like a major oversight now.
    Pact 5
    DF: Bondar, Rakitskyi, Diveyev
    MF: Szoboszlai, Anton Miranchuk, Buyalskiy, Mkhitaryan, Erokhin
    FW: Lewandowski -- 1(x2), Dzyuba 1, Chalov, Julis 2

    Whereas Lewandowski has not been as explosive as expected. This kid Lukas Julis is scoring at the pace of about one goal per game this season, expect to see him on some Bundesliga screen soon.
    The kid is soon 26 and only exploded this season. Curious to see where his career will take him from here.
    Rockers 5
    DF: Dest 1, Andrade, C. Richards
    MF: McKennie, Reyna, Arfield 1, Alvarez
    FW: Lozano 1, David, Bailey -- 1 (x2), Corona, Mariano Diaz

    Big result for the Rockers in the fight to avoid the wooden spoon.
    Definitely. Knew they could be competitive.
    Wonderland 3

    DF: Lainer, Trauner, Fuchs
    MF: Lazaro, Freuler, Baumgartner 1, Fassnacht, Liendl (c)
    FW: Sabitzer, Gruber, Kara 2, Demir

    A missed captain opportunity here?
    True, but worst of all I haven't found the balance between Swiss
    and Austrian players yet. Of course I'm a bit partial there, too.
    Waffles/Windmills 2
    DF: Meunier, De Logt, Hateboer
    MF Vanaken, De Bruyne, Tielemans, T. Hazard
    FW: Lukaku --, E. Hazard 1, L. de Jong, Malen 1, Doku

    Waffles/Windmills struggling this year.
    The Belgian clubs are a bit weird. Among the countries with a
    similar performance in the UEFA ranking (Russia, Netherlands, Austria, Scotland, Ukraine,...) they are by far the best in terms of depth
    (Genk, Brugge, Gent, Anderlecht, Standard Li|?ge all contributing in
    more or less equal measure) and at the same time the worst in terms
    of points collected by the top team (none of the above comes close
    to Ajax, Shakhtar, Celtic, Salzburg, even Copenhagen)
    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 08:20:53 2020
    On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 9:32:45 AM UTC-5, HASM wrote:

    Those F1 points don't change the ranking that much, probably
    statistically expected.

    Well, they do change them enough to make a difference. Tugas and Babes have the same number of goals, but Tugas with a clear advantage in the rankings. And a two-goal advantage over the Bungs translates into a full 10-point lead.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 08:21:36 2020
    On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 10:00:46 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 3:49:50 PM UTC+1, HASM wrote:
    I don't remember seeing Gon|oalo Ramos has having scored. He shows up
    with zero goals on the UEFA. Livesoccertv has Tavernier(o.g.) and Pizzi, as the scorers for Benfica.
    Yes, like the Napoli goal this was changed some time afterwards.
    I kind of have to agree with that, it was a pretty big deflection: https://streamja.com/OnKR7

    Thanks. I will update the efficiency score rankings.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 08:29:01 2020
    On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 10:22:15 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    It helps the Tugas to have Cristiano Ronaldo plus a bunch of consistent goalscorers.
    Portuguese players have seriously impressed in recent times. Despite some hiccups,
    their clubs have performed consistently, too.

    Yes. Favorites for Euro 2021?


    Whereas Lewandowski has not been as explosive as expected. This kid Lukas Julis is scoring at the pace of about one goal per game this season, expect to see him on some Bundesliga screen soon.
    The kid is soon 26 and only exploded this season. Curious to see where his career will take him from here.

    But being a late bloomer is not that uncommon for big, tall strikers. He actually broke out already in the first half of 2020 when on loan at Sigma Olomouc.
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 09:20:13 2020
    On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 5:29:04 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 10:22:15 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Whereas Lewandowski has not been as explosive as expected. This kid Lukas Julis is scoring at the pace of about one goal per game this season, expect to see him on some Bundesliga screen soon.

    The kid is soon 26 and only exploded this season. Curious to see where his career will take him from here.

    But being a late bloomer is not that uncommon for big, tall strikers. He actually broke out already in the first half of 2020 when on loan at Sigma Olomouc.

    Very true. Rapid's target man Ercan Kara, who could've single-handedly saved the Wonderland score,
    had failed in Austria's third division at the age of 20; went back to the fourth division where he became
    top scorer; also became top scorer in the third division the next year; then played successfully just half
    a season in the second league; was snatched up by Rapid and now at 24 scored two fine goals in the
    Europa League. You can literally see how he's playing with relish, just enjoying the opportunity.

    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From HASM@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Nov 27 09:45:24 2020

    Portuguese players have seriously impressed in recent times. Despite
    some hiccups, their clubs have performed consistently, too.

    Yes. Favorites for Euro 2021?

    Defense will be the key, and it is a bit lacking.

    Can PT even come out of the group stage? With a few exceptions here and
    there, PT doesn't do well against France and Germany. It would have to
    be draw both and beat Hungary, but Hungary is getting better too. Maybe another three tie for best third masterpiece.

    -- HASM
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