Sort of start to the season, with Pokals and Super Pokals and Super Tacas and super charity cups and such.

SO what do we know ater the Super Charity cup? Liverpool will win the WWEpl. What do we know after the DFB Pokal? Prentenders gonna keep pretendin, oh and they wont win the cup.

Bayern v Red Bull kicking off now, new look Bayern, looks like they will win the league and sayong that before the game has not even started yet
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In article <ff63e1ab-0fa7-4fdc-a307-478325ec87d9n@googlegroups.com>,
Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:

Sort of start to the season, with Pokals and Super Pokals and Super
Tacas and super charity cups and such.

SO what do we know ater the Super Charity cup? Liverpool will win the WWEpl. >What do we know after the DFB Pokal? Prentenders gonna keep pretendin,
oh and they wont win the cup.

Bayern v Red Bull kicking off now, new look Bayern, looks like they will
win the league and sayong that before the game has not even started yet

And Liverpool beat Man C 3-1 .
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On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 2:53:33 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:

And Liverpool beat Man C 3-1 .

Man C should've had a player sent off after the VAR penalty, or on the VAR penalty.

Mike
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On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 7:32:20 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:

Sort of start to the season, with Pokals and Super Pokals and Super Tacas and super charity cups and such.

SO what do we know ater the Super Charity cup? Liverpool will win the WWEpl. What do we know after the DFB Pokal? Prentenders gonna keep pretendin, oh and they wont win the cup.

Bayern v Red Bull kicking off now, new look Bayern, looks like they will win the league and sayong that before the game has not even started yet

I watched the Turkish Super Cup between Trabzonspor and Sivasspor and I now know that Marek Hamsik still has a mohawk hair cut.

The match was played at the Ataturk Olympic Stadium in Istanbul, but disappointingly they covered up the running track for some reason, which detracted from the aesthetic quality of the occasion.

Trabzonspor won 4-0.

RM
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Binder Dundat wrote:

Bayern v Red Bull kicking off now, new look Bayern, looks like they
will win the league and sayong that before the game has not even
started yet

Well, seeing as Bayern Munich have won ten consecutive titles in the
(clearly ultra competitive) Bundesliga... tipping them to win it
again is hardly sticking your neck out when it comes to football
predictions! :-)
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On 2022-07-30, Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:

Sort of start to the season, with Pokals and Super Pokals and Super Tacas and super charity cups and such.

SO what do we know ater the Super Charity cup? Liverpool will win
the WWEpl.

But Salzburg beat Liverpool, so I guess they're going to win the
Champions League? And Sturm Graz will take the Eastern Bundesliga.
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On 2022-07-31 16:34, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On 2022-07-30, Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:

Sort of start to the season, with Pokals and Super Pokals and Super Tacas and super charity cups and such.

SO what do we know ater the Super Charity cup? Liverpool will win
the WWEpl.

But Salzburg beat Liverpool, so I guess they're going to win the
Champions League? And Sturm Graz will take the Eastern Bundesliga.

All kidding aside, is winning the Charity/Community shield not a bit
like a kiss of death in terms of winning the league the following year ?
Here are the EPL era results

1992 Leeds won, did not retain league title (0/1)
1993 Man U won, did win league title (1/2)
1994 Man U won, did not retain league title (1/2)
1995 Everton won, did not win league title (0/1)
1996 Man Utd won, did win league (2/3)
1997 Man Utd won, lost league to Arsenal (2/4)
1998 Arsenal won, lost league to Man U (0/1)
1999 Arsenal won, also won league in 2000 (1/2)
2000 Chelsea won, did not win league (0/1)
2001 Liverpool won, did not win league (0/1)
2002 Arsenal won, did not win league (1/3)
2003 Man Utd won, did not win league in 2004 (2/5)
2004 Arsenal won, did not win league (1/4)
2005 Chelsea won, did win league (1/2)
2006 Liverpool won did not win league (0/2)
2007 Man Utd won, did win league in 2008 (3/6)
2008 Man Utd won, did win league in 2009 (4/7)
2009 Chelsea won, did win 2010 league (2/3)
2010 Man United won, did win 2011 league (5/8)
2011 Man United won, did not win league in 2012 (5/9)
2012 Man City won, did not win league in 2013 (0/1)
2013 Man Utd won, did not win league in 2014 (5/10)
2014 Arsenal won, did not win league in 2015 (1/5)
2015 Arsenal won, did not win league in 2016 (1/6)
2016 Man Utd won vs. Leicester, did not win league in 2017 (5/11)
2017 Arsenal won, did not win league in 2018 (1/7)
2018 Man City won, did win title in 2019 (1/2)
2019 Man City won, did not win title in 2020 (1/3)
2020 Arsenal won, did not win title in 2021 (1/8)
2021 Leicester City won, did not win title in 2022 (0/1)
2022 Liverpool won -- league champions ?????


Overall:

Man Utd. 5/11
Arsenal 1/8
Chelsea 2/3
Man City 1/3
Liverpool 0/2
Leicester 0/1
Everton 0/1
Leeds 0/1

Overall success rate 9 teams (out of 30 winners) went on to win the
title after winning the Charity shield. I did not look closely yet to
see how often each of the league winners, league runners up (in cases
where the league winner won the double) or cup winners actually won.
Obvious FA cup winners from this list would include Arsenal 5 times,
Everton and Leicester, Chelsea in 2000 and 2009, Liverpool in 2001,
2006, and 2022. Arsenal in 1999 would have entered as runners up.
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On 2022-07-30, Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:

Sort of start to the season, with Pokals and Super Pokals and Super Tacas and super charity cups and such.

SO what do we know ater the Super Charity cup?

According to British pundits and social media, Haaland is the worst
striker in the history of the game.
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