• Summer 2022 transfers thread

    From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Jun 26 01:16:51 2022
    Let me start this summer's transfer thread with the following news:
    Nottingham Forest have broken their club transfer record by signing Taiwo Awoniyi from Union Berlin. Forest spent -u17.5m on the forward who scored 15 times in 31 Bundesliga games last season (20 goals in 43 across all competitions).
    The 24 year old, who also plays for the Nigeria national team, signed a 5 year deal and is Nottingham Forest's first signing since promotion to the Premier League.
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Jun 26 01:29:52 2022
    Can't see it mentioned elsewhere on rss so let me also state for the record that Sadio Mane has left Liverpool for Bayern Munich for a transfer fee of 32m Euros, which could increase by a further 9m depending on appearances and achievements.

    The 30 year old striker scored 16 times in 34 Premier League matches last season (23 in 51 matches across all competitions).

    Still a very good player but in terms of business have Liverpool sold at just the right time? And have Bayern overpaid?


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  • From Mark@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Jun 26 06:00:55 2022
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:29:55 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:

    RM

    From Lyon's facebook page, it looks as though Sara Dabritz has moved from PSG to Lyon! Can anyone confirm that?
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Jun 26 19:43:03 2022
    I dont know if it is all the new TV money they will be getting, but MLS has been busy buying players. Like the 2nd most expensive footballer of all time and a bunch of big name Italian players, maybe it it will finally make me pay attention to the MLS, I just cant follow it, the play is rather poor and I just cant get excited or even moderately interested in the product.
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:00:58 a.m. UTC-4, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:29:55 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:

    RM

    From Lyon's facebook page, it looks as though Sara Dabritz has moved from PSG to Lyon! Can anyone confirm that?
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Jun 27 07:46:56 2022
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:00:58 AM UTC-4, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:29:55 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:

    RM

    From Lyon's facebook page, it looks as though Sara Dabritz has moved from PSG to Lyon! Can anyone confirm that?
    Sara Bj||rk Gunnarsd||ttir has transferred from Lyon to Juventus. Juve has also acquired Lineth Beerensteyn from Bayern.
    Euro 2022 starts in about 10 days. I'll probably launcha SophCon
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Jul 3 14:34:52 2022
    Manchester United goalkeeper Dean Henderson has joined Nottingham Forest on a season long loan. There is no option to buy and a condition of the loan is that Henderson can't play against United in the Premier League.


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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Jul 3 15:34:51 2022
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:54 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    Manchester United goalkeeper Dean Henderson has joined Nottingham Forest on a season long loan. There is no option to buy and a condition of the loan is that Henderson can't play against United in the Premier
    League.
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81mre4 to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).
    Add the 30mre4 for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.
    Ciao,
    Werner


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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Jul 4 14:10:01 2022
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81mre4 to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).
    Add the 30mre4 for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.
    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League? Or is the club content to keep making profits producing a conveyor belt of talent to sell on?
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Jul 4 14:27:35 2022
    At the risk of turning this into a Nottingham Forest centric thread, the Reds have signed 22 year old defender Giulian Biancone on a three-year deal from Ligue 1 side Troyes. He can play as a centre back or right back and made 33 appearances for Troyes last season. He spent the 2019/20 and 2020/21 seasons on loan at Cercle Brugge.
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Jul 4 14:42:07 2022
    Galatasaray have made Egypt forward Mostafa Mohamed's loan from Zamalek permanent by paying -u3.46m for a three year deal.
    Mohamed has spent the past two seasons at Galatasaray, scoring 8 goals in 16 matches in 2020/21 and 5 goals in 17 matches last season.
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Jul 4 17:05:57 2022
    On 2022-07-04 15:42, Real Mardin wrote:
    Galatasaray have made Egypt forward Mostafa Mohamed's loan from Zamalek permanent by paying -u3.46m for a three year deal.

    Mohamed has spent the past two seasons at Galatasaray, scoring 8 goals in 16 matches in 2020/21 and 5 goals in 17 matches last season.


    RM

    Maybe I missed discussion of this, as I was travelling, but what do
    people think about the following confirmed or strongly rumoured transfers:

    Darwin Nu|#ez to Liverpool

    Richarlison to Spurs (good player, but is he not pretty equivalent to Son ?)

    Kalvin Phillips to Man City (do they really need reinforcements ?)

    Eriksen to Man United

    Gabriel Jesus to Arsenal

    Calvin Ramsay to Liverpool

    Fabio Carvalho to Liverpool

    gareth Bale to LAFC

    Insigne to TFC

    Fabio Vieira to Arsenal

    Ortega to Man City


    Rumour also that Bernardo Silva wants to move to Barca.
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Jul 5 11:56:03 2022
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 12:06:05 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-07-04 15:42, Real Mardin wrote:
    Galatasaray have made Egypt forward Mostafa Mohamed's loan from Zamalek permanent by paying -u3.46m for a three year deal.

    Mohamed has spent the past two seasons at Galatasaray, scoring 8 goals in 16 matches in 2020/21 and 5 goals in 17 matches last season.


    RM
    Maybe I missed discussion of this, as I was travelling, but what do
    people think about the following confirmed or strongly rumoured transfers:

    Darwin Nu|#ez to Liverpool

    Richarlison to Spurs (good player, but is he not pretty equivalent to Son ?)

    Kalvin Phillips to Man City (do they really need reinforcements ?)

    Eriksen to Man United

    Gabriel Jesus to Arsenal

    So on the subject of Jes||s, it feels like herCOs been around forever, I was expecting him to be over 30 but apparently herCOs only 25. Not a great goal scoring record in the past two seasons but that might be to do with Man CityrCOs playing system.
    RM
    Calvin Ramsay to Liverpool

    Fabio Carvalho to Liverpool

    gareth Bale to LAFC

    Insigne to TFC

    Fabio Vieira to Arsenal

    Ortega to Man City


    Rumour also that Bernardo Silva wants to move to Barca.
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Jul 5 13:55:35 2022
    Nottingham Forest goalkeeper Brice Samba has joined RC Lens. He played 45 matches in all competitions last season, including the Championship playoff semi-final second leg against Sheffield United, where he was the hero of the penalty shootout with three saves.
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  • From Al Kamista@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Jul 6 05:01:10 2022
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 7:06:05 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
    On 2022-07-04 15:42, Real Mardin wrote:
    Galatasaray have made Egypt forward Mostafa Mohamed's loan from Zamalek permanent by paying -u3.46m for a three year deal.

    Mohamed has spent the past two seasons at Galatasaray, scoring 8 goals in 16 matches in 2020/21 and 5 goals in 17 matches last season.


    RM
    Maybe I missed discussion of this, as I was travelling, but what do
    people think about the following confirmed or strongly rumoured transfers:

    Darwin Nu|#ez to Liverpool

    Richarlison to Spurs (good player, but is he not pretty equivalent to Son ?)

    Kalvin Phillips to Man City (do they really need reinforcements ?)

    Eriksen to Man United

    Gabriel Jesus to Arsenal

    Calvin Ramsay to Liverpool

    Fabio Carvalho to Liverpool

    gareth Bale to LAFC

    Insigne to TFC

    Fabio Vieira to Arsenal

    Ortega to Man City
    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Jul 6 09:17:14 2022
    On 2022-07-05 12:56, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 12:06:05 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:

    RM
    Maybe I missed discussion of this, as I was travelling, but what do
    people think about the following confirmed or strongly rumoured transfers: >>
    Darwin Nu|#ez to Liverpool

    Richarlison to Spurs (good player, but is he not pretty equivalent to Son ?) >>
    Kalvin Phillips to Man City (do they really need reinforcements ?)

    Eriksen to Man United

    Gabriel Jesus to Arsenal


    So on the subject of Jes||s, it feels like herCOs been around forever, I was expecting him to be over 30 but apparently herCOs only 25. Not a great goal scoring record in the past two seasons but that might be to do with Man CityrCOs playing system.

    He might do very well at Arsenal, as I imagine with Lacazette and
    Aubameyang gone he will get lots of playing time.

    RM



    Calvin Ramsay to Liverpool

    Fabio Carvalho to Liverpool

    gareth Bale to LAFC

    Insigne to TFC

    Toronto FC doubling down on Italians. Supposedly they have signed Bernardeschi as well, with Pozuelo leaving. (to Inter Miami)


    Fabio Vieira to Arsenal

    Ortega to Man City


    Rumour also that Bernardo Silva wants to move to Barca.
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Jul 6 12:33:47 2022
    I fully appreciate there are other teams in the World than Nottingham Forest, but being new to the Premier League they're making so many signings to get their squad up to standard. Today's signing was 26 year old centre back Moussa Niakhate, signed from 05 Mainz on a three year deal with an option to extend for one year. Niakhate played 128 league games for Mainz over the past four seasons, scoring 9 times.
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Jul 6 23:15:05 2022
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81mre4 to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).
    Add the 30mre4 for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.
    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?
    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?
    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    Or is the club content to keep making profits producing a conveyor belt of talent to sell on?
    I admit it does beg the question what they're doing with all that cash. Their youth set-up with its top-notch
    facilities in Salzburg definitely costs a pretty penny, but by now the surplus must be substantial.
    One thing they *should* do in my opinion - and that they haven't done so yet is actually quite pathetic - is
    to sponsor a women's team.
    Ciao,
    Werner

    RM
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Jul 8 15:48:29 2022
    On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-4, alka.. wrote:
    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.
    I detect some sarcasm...To be honest, the stealth approach had been more successful than the recent spree of high-profile acquisitions. Anyway, Pogba and Di Maria are definite improvements to the squad...even though Di Maria has explicitly said that he is only looking for a one-year contract. One wonders how motivated he will be after the WC.
    In other news, De Ligt is apparently on his way to Bayern. Juve looking to replace him with Koulibaly. Also Zaniolo strongly rumored to be joining Juve.
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Jul 10 02:49:28 2022
    On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 11:48:30 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-4, alka.. wrote:

    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.
    I detect some sarcasm...To be honest, the stealth approach had been more successful than the recent spree of high-profile acquisitions. Anyway, Pogba and Di Maria are definite improvements to the squad...even though Di Maria has explicitly said that he is only looking for a one-year contract. One wonders how motivated he will be after the WC.

    In other news, De Ligt is apparently on his way to Bayern. Juve looking to replace him with Koulibaly. Also Zaniolo strongly rumored to be joining Juve.
    A big transfer to bring you, Raheem Sterling is moving from Manchester City to Chelsea for -u50m (pending a medical). At 27 years of age yourCOd think he still has a few good seasons to give.
    And just so we donrCOt deviate from the emerging Nottingham Forest theme of the thread, the Reds have signed 24 year old left back Omar Richards from Bayern Munich for -u10m. Richards played 12 Bundesliga matches for Bayern last season. Bundesliga viewers - have you seen him play and is he any good?
    RM
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  • From Mark@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Jul 10 09:00:27 2022
    On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 11:48:30 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-4, alka.. wrote:

    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.
    I detect some sarcasm...To be honest, the stealth approach had been more successful than the recent spree of high-profile acquisitions. Anyway, Pogba and Di Maria are definite improvements to the squad...even though Di Maria has explicitly said that he is only looking for a one-year contract. One wonders how motivated he will be after the WC.

    In other news, De Ligt is apparently on his way to Bayern. Juve looking to replace him with Koulibaly. Also Zaniolo strongly rumored to be joining Juve.
    Carina Wenninger from FC Bayern Frauen to Roma. Not a single player left in Bayern Munchen's squad that started the 2016 Championship winning season. Where's the loyalty in football these days?
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Jul 10 12:07:46 2022
    On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 6:00:28 PM UTC+2, Mark wrote:
    On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 11:48:30 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-4, alka.. wrote:

    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.

    I detect some sarcasm...To be honest, the stealth approach had been more successful than the recent spree of high-profile acquisitions. Anyway, Pogba and Di Maria are definite improvements to the squad...even
    though Di Maria has explicitly said that he is only looking for a one-year contract. One wonders how motivated he will be after the WC.

    In other news, De Ligt is apparently on his way to Bayern. Juve looking to replace him with Koulibaly. Also Zaniolo strongly rumored to be joining Juve.

    Carina Wenninger from FC Bayern Frauen to Roma. Not a single player left in Bayern Munchen's squad that started the 2016 Championship winning season. Where's the loyalty in football these days?

    You realise (actually I'm pretty sure you don't) that Wenninger has been *loaned out* to Roma by Bayern as a kind of thank you for her
    long years of service, because Bayern can't give her first-team minutes anymore, and she wanted to play in one more foreign country before the
    end of her career.


    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Al Kamista@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Jul 10 16:45:52 2022
    On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 6:48:30 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-4, alka.. wrote:

    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.
    I detect some sarcasm...
    Well, it was not meant to be subtle :-)
    To be honest, the stealth approach had been more successful than the recent spree of high-profile acquisitions.
    I think Khedira might have been the last free transfer success? Certainly in more recent times Can, Rabiot, and Ramsey were not. Maybe I am missing someone.
    Anyway, Pogba and Di Maria are definite improvements to the squad...even though Di Maria has explicitly said that he is only looking for a one-year contract. One wonders how motivated he will be after the WC.
    I see Pogba (along with Neymar) as the ultimate luxury player. Give them a balanced and dominant team and they will look like rockstars. But in lesser teams they are defensive liabilities - they are too much flair players who are not bothered with menial tasks like running off the ball. What team Juventus is now, will have a strong bearing on his efficacy, in my opinion
    Slight sidebar but he biggest Pogba myth is that he's a far better player for France than he is for Man U. He is the same player - he gives away the ball and gets caught in possession often for France too but they have the defensive structure to clean up after him. As did the dominant Juventus he played for before.
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Jul 11 11:53:56 2022
    On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 12:45:53 AM UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 6:48:30 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-4, alka.. wrote:

    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.
    I detect some sarcasm...
    Well, it was not meant to be subtle :-)
    To be honest, the stealth approach had been more successful than the recent spree of high-profile acquisitions.
    I think Khedira might have been the last free transfer success? Certainly in more recent times Can, Rabiot, and Ramsey were not. Maybe I am missing someone.
    Anyway, Pogba and Di Maria are definite improvements to the squad...even though Di Maria has explicitly said that he is only looking for a one-year contract. One wonders how motivated he will be after the WC.
    I see Pogba (along with Neymar) as the ultimate luxury player. Give them a balanced and dominant team and they will look like rockstars. But in lesser teams they are defensive liabilities - they are too much flair players who are not bothered with menial tasks like running off the ball. What team Juventus is now, will have a strong bearing on his efficacy, in my opinion

    Slight sidebar but he biggest Pogba myth is that he's a far better player for France than he is for Man U. He is the same player - he gives away the ball and gets caught in possession often for France too but they have the defensive structure to clean up after him. As did the dominant Juventus he played for before.
    These days you canrCOt turn on the news or go online without hearing about yet another Nottingham Forest transfer. TodayrCOs transfer was Neco Williams, a 21 year old right back bought from Liverpool. Williams played one Premier League match for Liverpool last season and made three Champions League appearances but played a further 14 times on loan Fulham in the Championship. HerCOs also a Wales international.
    RM
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  • From Mark@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Jul 12 02:45:32 2022
    On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 8:07:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 6:00:28 PM UTC+2, Mark wrote:
    Carina Wenninger from FC Bayern Frauen to Roma. Not a single player left in Bayern Munchen's squad that started the 2016 Championship winning season. Where's the loyalty in football these days?
    You realise (actually I'm pretty sure you don't) that Wenninger has been *loaned out* to Roma by Bayern as a kind of thank you for her
    long years of service, because Bayern can't give her first-team minutes anymore, and she wanted to play in one more foreign country before the
    end of her career.


    No I didn't know that. I'm still puzzled about why so many players have come and gone at Bayern Munchen in such a short time though. It's understandable at a small club that can't keep it's best players because richer clubs can offer them higher wages, but why is this happening at Bayern Munchen?
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Jul 13 09:14:02 2022
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81mre4 to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30mre4 for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13mre4 (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-|etienne. Ciao,
    Werner
    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.
    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:
    Brenden Aaronson 33mre4 (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30mre4 (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30mre4 (Leicester)
    Naby Ke|>ta 30mre4 (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23mre4 (Brighton)
    Sadio Man|- 23mre4 (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22mre4 (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20mre4 (Dortmund)
    Duje -aaleta-Car 19mre4 (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17mre4 (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15mre4 (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadi|- Samass|-kou 14mre4 (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13mre4 (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13mre4 (M||nchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12mre4 (Dortmund)
    Alan 11mre4 (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11mre4 (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11mre4 (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongra-ii-c 9mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9mre4 (Liverpool)
    Maximilian W||ber 8mre4 (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Jul 16 03:10:58 2022
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81mre4 to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30mre4 for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13mre4 (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-|etienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33mre4 (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30mre4 (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30mre4 (Leicester)
    Naby Ke|>ta 30mre4 (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23mre4 (Brighton)
    Sadio Man|- 23mre4 (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22mre4 (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20mre4 (Dortmund)
    Duje -aaleta-Car 19mre4 (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17mre4 (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15mre4 (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadi|- Samass|-kou 14mre4 (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13mre4 (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13mre4 (M||nchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12mre4 (Dortmund)
    Alan 11mre4 (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11mre4 (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11mre4 (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongra-ii-c 9mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9mre4 (Liverpool)

    Maximilian W||ber 8mre4 (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd -u45m
    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth -u55m
    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free
    RM
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Jul 16 13:06:38 2022
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 1:10:59 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81mre4 to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30mre4 for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13mre4 (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-|etienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33mre4 (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30mre4 (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30mre4 (Leicester)
    Naby Ke|>ta 30mre4 (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23mre4 (Brighton)
    Sadio Man|- 23mre4 (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22mre4 (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20mre4 (Dortmund)
    Duje -aaleta-Car 19mre4 (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17mre4 (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15mre4 (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadi|- Samass|-kou 14mre4 (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13mre4 (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13mre4 (M||nchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12mre4 (Dortmund)
    Alan 11mre4 (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11mre4 (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11mre4 (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongra-ii-c 9mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9mre4 (Liverpool)

    Maximilian W||ber 8mre4 (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd -u45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth -u55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free

    Kalidou Koulibaly Napoli to Chelsea
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Jul 17 12:53:59 2022
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 9:06:39 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 1:10:59 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81mre4 to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30mre4 for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13mre4 (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-|etienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33mre4 (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30mre4 (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30mre4 (Leicester)
    Naby Ke|>ta 30mre4 (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23mre4 (Brighton)
    Sadio Man|- 23mre4 (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22mre4 (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20mre4 (Dortmund)
    Duje -aaleta-Car 19mre4 (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17mre4 (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15mre4 (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadi|- Samass|-kou 14mre4 (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13mre4 (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13mre4 (M||nchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12mre4 (Dortmund)
    Alan 11mre4 (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11mre4 (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11mre4 (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongra-ii-c 9mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9mre4 (Liverpool)

    Maximilian W||ber 8mre4 (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd -u45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth -u55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free

    Kalidou Koulibaly Napoli to Chelsea
    Sergio Oliveira Porto to Galatasaray, -u2.7m, what a bargain!
    RM
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Jul 20 12:55:07 2022
    On 2022-07-16 14:06, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 1:10:59 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>>
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81mre4 to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality). >>>>>>
    Add the 30mre4 for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13mre4 (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-|etienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33mre4 (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30mre4 (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30mre4 (Leicester)
    Naby Ke|>ta 30mre4 (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23mre4 (Brighton)
    Sadio Man|- 23mre4 (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22mre4 (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20mre4 (Dortmund)
    Duje -aaleta-Car 19mre4 (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17mre4 (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15mre4 (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadi|- Samass|-kou 14mre4 (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13mre4 (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13mre4 (M||nchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12mre4 (Dortmund)
    Alan 11mre4 (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11mre4 (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11mre4 (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongra-ii-c 9mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9mre4 (Liverpool)

    Maximilian W||ber 8mre4 (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd -u45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth -u55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free


    Kalidou Koulibaly Napoli to Chelsea

    Understandable with R|+diger leaving.

    Cyle Larin went to Bruges from Besiktas. He joins Tajon Buchanan in the Canadian contingent there. Might not be a smart move, though, as the competition with De Ketelaere might be too stiff.


    Bernardeschi to TFC from JUve now confirmed. Criscito has player,
    Insigne not yet.

    |uzil from one Istanbul team to another.
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    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Jul 20 14:22:05 2022
    On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 7:55:11 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-07-16 14:06, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 1:10:59 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>>
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81mre4 to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality). >>>>>>
    Add the 30mre4 for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13mre4 (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-|etienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33mre4 (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30mre4 (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30mre4 (Leicester)
    Naby Ke|>ta 30mre4 (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23mre4 (Brighton)
    Sadio Man|- 23mre4 (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22mre4 (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20mre4 (Dortmund)
    Duje -aaleta-Car 19mre4 (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17mre4 (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15mre4 (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadi|- Samass|-kou 14mre4 (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13mre4 (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13mre4 (M||nchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12mre4 (Dortmund)
    Alan 11mre4 (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11mre4 (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11mre4 (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongra-ii-c 9mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9mre4 (Liverpool)

    Maximilian W||ber 8mre4 (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd -u45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth -u55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free


    Kalidou Koulibaly Napoli to Chelsea
    Understandable with R|+diger leaving.

    Cyle Larin went to Bruges from Besiktas. He joins Tajon Buchanan in the Canadian contingent there. Might not be a smart move, though, as the competition with De Ketelaere might be too stiff.


    Bernardeschi to TFC from JUve now confirmed. Criscito has player,
    Insigne not yet.

    |uzil from one Istanbul team to another.
    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for a whopping -u59.5m plus -u8.5m add ons?
    TM
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Jul 20 14:27:44 2022
    On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 7:55:11 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-07-16 14:06, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 1:10:59 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>>
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81mre4 to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality). >>>>>>
    Add the 30mre4 for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13mre4 (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-|etienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33mre4 (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30mre4 (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30mre4 (Leicester)
    Naby Ke|>ta 30mre4 (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23mre4 (Brighton)
    Sadio Man|- 23mre4 (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22mre4 (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20mre4 (Dortmund)
    Duje -aaleta-Car 19mre4 (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17mre4 (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15mre4 (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadi|- Samass|-kou 14mre4 (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13mre4 (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13mre4 (M||nchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12mre4 (Dortmund)
    Alan 11mre4 (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11mre4 (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11mre4 (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongra-ii-c 9mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9mre4 (Liverpool)

    Maximilian W||ber 8mre4 (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd -u45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth -u55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free


    Kalidou Koulibaly Napoli to Chelsea
    Understandable with R|+diger leaving.

    Cyle Larin went to Bruges from Besiktas. He joins Tajon Buchanan in the Canadian contingent there. Might not be a smart move, though, as the competition with De Ketelaere might be too stiff.

    He could get to play Champions League football but once those 6 matches are over this might end up being a backward step.
    RM

    Bernardeschi to TFC from JUve now confirmed. Criscito has player,
    Insigne not yet.

    |uzil from one Istanbul team to another.
    From Fenerbahce to Basaksehir.
    RM
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Jul 21 09:15:17 2022
    On 2022-07-20 15:27, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 7:55:11 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-07-16 14:06, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 1:10:59 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>>>>
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81mre4 to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality). >>>>>>>>
    Add the 30mre4 for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13mre4 (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-|etienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33mre4 (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30mre4 (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30mre4 (Leicester)
    Naby Ke|>ta 30mre4 (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23mre4 (Brighton)
    Sadio Man|- 23mre4 (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22mre4 (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20mre4 (Dortmund)
    Duje -aaleta-Car 19mre4 (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19mre4 (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17mre4 (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15mre4 (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadi|- Samass|-kou 14mre4 (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13mre4 (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13mre4 (M||nchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12mre4 (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12mre4 (Dortmund)
    Alan 11mre4 (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11mre4 (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11mre4 (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongra-ii-c 9mre4 (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9mre4 (Liverpool)

    Maximilian W||ber 8mre4 (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd -u45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth -u55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free


    Kalidou Koulibaly Napoli to Chelsea
    Understandable with R|+diger leaving.

    Cyle Larin went to Bruges from Besiktas. He joins Tajon Buchanan in the
    Canadian contingent there. Might not be a smart move, though, as the
    competition with De Ketelaere might be too stiff.


    He could get to play Champions League football but once those 6 matches are over this might end up being a backward step.

    Hard to tell. Playing in the Belgian league has been a good showcase
    for North American talent in the past - Jonathan David, Radzinski, Mike Klukowski, and more than a few US NT players.
    Anderlecht showed signs of a bit of a revival at the end of last season,
    but Bruges must still be favourites for another title.

    RM

    Bernardeschi to TFC from JUve now confirmed. Criscito has player,
    Insigne not yet.

    |uzil from one Istanbul team to another.

    From Fenerbahce to Basaksehir.

    RM
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Jul 21 13:23:53 2022
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for a whopping -u59.5m plus -u8.5m add ons?
    Big loss for Juve, but maybe he wasn't the best fit for Allegri's way of defending? Anyway, Juve has promptly replaced him with Gleison Bremer of Torino, who was one of the best defenders in Serie A last year.
    Also, Dybala --> Roma. A step backwards for La Joya, who a few months ago turned down a much fatter contract renewal offer from Juve. Kids, make sure you get a good agent.
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Jul 23 04:11:20 2022
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 9:23:55 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for a whopping -u59.5m plus -u8.5m add ons?
    Big loss for Juve, but maybe he wasn't the best fit for Allegri's way of defending? Anyway, Juve has promptly replaced him with Gleison Bremer of Torino, who was one of the best defenders in Serie A last year.

    Also, Dybala --> Roma. A step backwards for La Joya, who a few months ago turned down a much fatter contract renewal offer from Juve. Kids, make sure you get a good agent.
    Oleksandr Zinchenko Manchester City to Arsenal
    Vedat Muriqi Lazio to Real Mallorca
    Ryan Babel Galatasaray to Eyupspor
    RM
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  • From Al Kamista@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Jul 23 11:30:28 2022
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 4:23:55 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for a whopping -u59.5m plus -u8.5m add ons?
    Big loss for Juve, but maybe he wasn't the best fit for Allegri's way of defending? Anyway, Juve has promptly replaced him with Gleison Bremer of Torino, who was one of the best defenders in Serie A last year.

    Also, Dybala --> Roma. A step backwards for La Joya, who a few months ago turned down a much fatter contract renewal offer from Juve. Kids, make sure you get a good agent.
    I think I've mentioned here before, that every couple of years a young player emerges in Serie A who is priced around the 100 million Euro range by their club and subsequently priced out of the serious market, only for them to sink into relative obscurity a few years later.
    Belotti
    Milinkovi-c-Savi-c
    Icardi
    Martinez
    Dybala
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  • From Al Kamista@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Jul 23 11:35:09 2022
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 7:11:22 AM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 9:23:55 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for a whopping -u59.5m plus -u8.5m add ons?
    Big loss for Juve, but maybe he wasn't the best fit for Allegri's way of defending? Anyway, Juve has promptly replaced him with Gleison Bremer of Torino, who was one of the best defenders in Serie A last year.

    Also, Dybala --> Roma. A step backwards for La Joya, who a few months ago turned down a much fatter contract renewal offer from Juve. Kids, make sure you get a good agent.
    Oleksandr Zinchenko Manchester City to Arsenal
    Arteta quietly building a pretty decent team. Jesus, Vieira, and now Zivchenko. Assuming Zivchenko will play his more natural midfield position. He could really blossom there as there seems to be a very good footballer in there trying to bust out.

    Vedat Muriqi Lazio to Real Mallorca

    Ryan Babel Galatasaray to Eyupspor
    Ryan Babel is still alive!?
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Jul 23 12:00:14 2022
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 7:35:10 PM UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 7:11:22 AM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 9:23:55 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for a whopping -u59.5m plus -u8.5m add ons?
    Big loss for Juve, but maybe he wasn't the best fit for Allegri's way of defending? Anyway, Juve has promptly replaced him with Gleison Bremer of Torino, who was one of the best defenders in Serie A last year.

    Also, Dybala --> Roma. A step backwards for La Joya, who a few months ago turned down a much fatter contract renewal offer from Juve. Kids, make sure you get a good agent.
    Oleksandr Zinchenko Manchester City to Arsenal
    Arteta quietly building a pretty decent team. Jesus, Vieira, and now Zivchenko.

    Assuming Zivchenko will play his more natural midfield position. He could really blossom there as there seems to be a very good footballer in there trying to bust out.

    Vedat Muriqi Lazio to Real Mallorca

    Ryan Babel Galatasaray to Eyupspor
    Ryan Babel is still alive!?
    35 years of age, herCOll turn 36 this season.
    RM
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Jul 23 22:02:51 2022
    In article <21df1d8f-5cc4-4302-b9b1-8811b62ca5e8n@googlegroups.com>,
    Al Kamista <alkamista@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 7:11:22 AM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 9:23:55 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for
    a whopping -u59.5m plus -u8.5m add ons?
    Big loss for Juve, but maybe he wasn't the best fit for Allegri's
    way of defending? Anyway, Juve has promptly replaced him with Gleison
    Bremer of Torino, who was one of the best defenders in Serie A last
    year.

    Also, Dybala --> Roma. A step backwards for La Joya, who a few
    months ago turned down a much fatter contract renewal offer from Juve.
    Kids, make sure you get a good agent.
    Oleksandr Zinchenko Manchester City to Arsenal

    Arteta quietly building a pretty decent team. Jesus, Vieira, and now Zivchenko.

    Assuming Zivchenko will play his more natural midfield position. He
    could really blossom there as there seems to be a very good footballer
    in there trying to bust out.


    Kronke finally investing!!


    Vedat Muriqi Lazio to Real Mallorca

    Ryan Babel Galatasaray to Eyupspor

    Ryan Babel is still alive!?


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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Jul 25 02:28:18 2022
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:30:29 PM UTC+3, alka... wrote:
    Belotti
    Milinkovi-c-Savi-c
    Icardi
    Martinez
    Dybala
    Simpsons' "he's already dead" meme. I don't think anybody disputes nowadays the fact that Serie A is in the doldrums. I wonder though if you were to play the same game with EPL players:
    Dele Alli
    Lingard
    Coutinho
    Martial
    Oxlade-Chamberlain
    Barkley
    All under-30 players who have lost more than 50% in their market value since July 1, 2019
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  • From Al Kamista@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Jul 25 08:19:15 2022
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 5:28:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:30:29 PM UTC+3, alka... wrote:
    Belotti
    Milinkovi-c-Savi-c
    Icardi
    Martinez
    Dybala
    Simpsons' "he's already dead" meme. I don't think anybody disputes nowadays the fact that Serie A is in the doldrums. I wonder though if you were to play the same game with EPL players:

    Dele Alli
    Lingard
    Coutinho
    Martial
    Oxlade-Chamberlain
    Barkley

    All under-30 players who have lost more than 50% in their market value since July 1, 2019
    I think you missed the point of my post on two levels (or maybe I didn't articulate it well enough). It's not a dig at the quality of Serie A (which is old news as you point out), but rather a propensity of significanty overrate some of its young stars. That's why I mentioned the 100 million number, because at that price point we aren't just talking very good players, we are talking young phenoms.
    The EPL (and all leagues, FTM) has its share of overrated players, but aside from Coutinho and Alli none of these players were ever valued even north of 50 million. Hazard was also a bust, but he was already 29 when RM bought him.
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Jul 25 13:46:43 2022
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 11:28:20 AM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:30:29 PM UTC+3, alka... wrote:
    Belotti
    Milinkovi-c-Savi-c
    Icardi
    Martinez
    Dybala
    Simpsons' "he's already dead" meme. I don't think anybody disputes nowadays the fact that Serie A is in the doldrums. I wonder though if you were to play the same game with EPL players:

    Dele Alli
    Lingard
    Coutinho
    Martial
    Oxlade-Chamberlain
    Barkley

    All under-30 players who have lost more than 50% in their market value since July 1, 2019
    Promising English (and to a lesser extent French, Spanish, German... not sure about Italian) youngsters
    will always be overpriced just due to their nationality.
    OTOH to think that every team in the world could have bought Haaland for re420m (half an Oxlade, or a third of a Martial)
    two years ago, but since he's Norwegian and was 'only' playing in Austria... Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Jul 26 02:52:31 2022
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 6:19:16 PM UTC+3, alka wrote:

    All under-30 players who have lost more than 50% in their market value since July 1, 2019
    I think you missed the point of my post on two levels (or maybe I didn't articulate it well enough). It's not a dig at the quality of Serie A (which is old news as you point out), but rather a propensity of significanty overrate some of its young stars. That's why I mentioned the 100 million number, because at that price point we aren't just talking very good players, we are talking young phenoms.
    Let's look at the players mentioned in this conversation:
    Belotti
    Highest ever value on TransferMarkt: 40M (Dec 2017)
    Current value: 20M
    Milinkovi-c-Savi-c
    Highest: 90M (June 2018)
    Current: 70M
    Icardi
    Highest: 100M (Dec 2018)
    Curren: 20M
    Martinez
    Highest: 80M (Dec 2019)
    Current: 75M
    Dybala
    Highest: 110M (June 2018)
    Current: 35M
    Dele Alli
    Highest: 100M (May 2018)
    Current: 16M
    Lingard
    Highest: 40M (Jul 2018)
    Current: 18M
    Coutinho
    Highest: 150M (Oct 2018)
    Current: 20M
    Martial
    Highest: 65M (Jan 2018)
    Current: 16M
    Oxlade-Chamberlain
    Highest: 40M (May 2018)
    Current: 16M
    Barkley
    Highest: 30M (Jun 2019)
    Current 12M
    Belotti was never realistically anywhere close to 100M (even I don't doubt that some newspaper headline quoted that number at some point). Lautaro is still very much at his peak (also very close to his peak in terms of market value), definitely too early to call him a bust. Same for SMS (even though his value could drop precipitously in the coming years). So the only two real busts are Icardi and Dybala. I agree that at some point they were rated as young phenoms, and eventually did not quite deliver as expected.
    On the EPL side, Lingard, AOC and Barkley don't really belong in this conversation (like Belotti). Martial is somewhere in the middle, and Coutinho and Dele have not delivered on their early promise.
    So I count two major busts in each league. Not really enough to make sweeping generalizations.
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Jul 26 02:53:36 2022
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 11:46:45 PM UTC+3, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Promising English (and to a lesser extent French, Spanish, German... not sure about Italian) youngsters
    will always be overpriced just due to their nationality.

    Promising Italian youngsters...an oxymoron.
    ( But we will win Euro 2024!)
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  • From Mark@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Jul 26 03:36:42 2022
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 2:00:58 PM UTC+1, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:29:55 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:

    RM

    From Lyon's facebook page, it looks as though Sara Dabritz has moved from PSG to Lyon! Can anyone confirm that?

    Sara Dabritz from PSG to Lyon, confirmed.

    More or less anyway; there's been too many mentions of her on the Lyon women's team's facebook page for it to be remotely unlikely.
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  • From Real Mardin@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Jul 26 10:54:09 2022
    On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 11:36:43 AM UTC+1, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 2:00:58 PM UTC+1, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:29:55 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:

    RM

    From Lyon's facebook page, it looks as though Sara Dabritz has moved from PSG to Lyon! Can anyone confirm that?

    Sara Dabritz from PSG to Lyon, confirmed.

    More or less anyway; there's been too many mentions of her on the Lyon women's team's facebook page for it to be remotely unlikely.

    Nottingham Forest have signed Jesse Lingard.

    Juventus have released Aaron Ramsey and Forest are among the contenders to sign him, as are Everton.

    RM
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Jul 26 11:28:39 2022
    On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 8:54:10 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    Juventus have released Aaron Ramsey and Forest are among the contenders to sign him, as are Everton.

    Scamacca has agreed on personal terms with West Ham, and will undergo a medical in the coming days.
    Good news for the Serie A Rejects (who still needs one more forward signing to avoid having to adopt a non-eligible player). However, I don't have high expectations for him.
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