Can't help but wonder if this year's World Cup breaks the record for the most number of nations who use English as an official or predominant language:
Australia (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant) Cameroon
Canada
England
Ghana
USA (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant)
Wales
So that's 7. Can any World Cup beat that?
RM
On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 11:35:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
Can't help but wonder if this year's World Cup breaks the record for the most number of nations who use English as an official or predominant language:
Australia (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant) Cameroon
Canada
England
Ghana
USA (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant)
Wales
So that's 7. Can any World Cup beat that?
RMItalia 90 had 5:
Cameroon
England
Republic of Ireland
Scotland
USA
RM
On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 11:35:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
Can't help but wonder if this year's World Cup breaks the record for the most number of nations who use English as an official or predominant language:
Australia (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant) Cameroon
Canada
England
Ghana
USA (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant)
Wales
So that's 7. Can any World Cup beat that?
RMItalia 90 had 5:
Cameroon
England
Republic of Ireland
Scotland
USA
RM
On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 11:41:10 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 11:35:03 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
Can't help but wonder if this year's World Cup breaks the record for the most number of nations who use English as an official or predominant language:Italia 90 had 5:
Australia (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant) >>> Cameroon
Canada
England
Ghana
USA (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant)
Wales
So that's 7. Can any World Cup beat that?
RM
Cameroon
England
Republic of Ireland
Scotland
USA
RM
South Africa 2010:
Australia
England
Cameroon
Ghana
New Zealand
Nigeria
South Africa
USA
8! Looks like we have a winner!
RM--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
Can't help but wonder if this year's World Cup breaks the record for the most number of nations who use English as an official or predominant language:
Australia (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant) Cameroon
Canada
England
Ghana
USA (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant)
Wales
So that's 7. Can any World Cup beat that?
RM--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
Can't help but wonder if this year's World Cup breaks the record for
the most number of nations who use English as an official or
predominant language:
Australia (doesn't have an official language but English is
predominant) Cameroon
Canada
England
Ghana
USA (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant)
Wales
Can't help but wonder if this year's World Cup breaks the record for the most number of nations who use English as an official or predominant language:
Australia (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant) Cameroon
Canada
England
Ghana
USA (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant)
Wales
So that's 7. Can any World Cup beat that?
RMHow about Spanish rCo 10?
On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 1:35:03 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
Can't help but wonder if this year's World Cup breaks the record forthe most number of nations who use English as an official or predominant >language:
Australia (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant)
Cameroon
Canada
England
Ghana
USA (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant)
Wales
So that's 7. Can any World Cup beat that?
RM
How about Spanish rCo 10?
Spain
Portugal
Argentina
Brazil
Uruguay
Costa Rica
Ecuador
Mexico
United States
Canada
There is a serious problem, though. Russian rCo 0. That could lead to >ArmageddonrCa
On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 1:35:03 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
Can't help but wonder if this year's World Cup breaks the record for the most number of nations who use English as an official or predominant language:
Australia (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant)
Cameroon
Canada
England
Ghana
USA (doesn't have an official language but English is predominant)
Wales
So that's 7. Can any World Cup beat that?
RM
How about Spanish rCo 10?
Spain
Portugal
Argentina
Brazil
Uruguay
Costa Rica
Ecuador
Mexico
United States
Canada
There is a serious problem, though. Russian rCo 0. That could lead to ArmageddonrCa--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
On 2022-06-19 04:45, Ion Saliu wrote:You're right. Indeed it is not even the most widely spoken foreign language
How about Spanish rCo 10?
Spain
Portugal
Argentina
Brazil
Uruguay
Costa Rica
Ecuador
Mexico
United States
Canada
Spanish is certainly not an official language in Canada, and does not
even rank in the top 5 most spoken mother tongues (English, French, Mandarin, Cantonese, Punjabi I think. Tagalog might be next).
Spanish also does not have official status in the US, or Portugal and I suspect not in Brazil though I would welcome correction there.
Portugese is the predominant and official language in the last two.
How about Spanish rCo 10?As pointed out elsewhere, we should probably count only 6 or 7 of the above (depending on whether it's fair to count the US or not). For Spanish, that's par for the course for the last 10 WC's or so, more or less, if I looked things
Spain
Portugal
Argentina
Brazil
Uruguay
Costa Rica
Ecuador
Mexico
United States
Canada
Ion Saliu escreveu:
How about Spanish rCo 10?
SpainAs pointed out elsewhere, we should probably count only 6 or 7 of the above (depending on whether it's fair to count the US or not). For Spanish, that's par for the course for the last 10 WC's or so, more or less, if I looked things
Portugal
Argentina
Brazil
Uruguay
Costa Rica
Ecuador
Mexico
United States
Canada
up correctly. The most Hispanophone WC was 2014, with 9 countries having it as
an official or proeminent language: Spain, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Ecuador,
Colombia, Mexico, Costa Rica and Honduras. If one prefers to count the US as well, there's your 10.
In terms of proportion of teams, though, I don't think one could surpass the 1930 World Cup, with 7 of the 13 teams coming from Spanish-speaking countries:
Uruguay, Argentina, Paraguay, Peru, Chile, Bolivia and Mexico. The US was there
too fwiw, so maybe 8 if you want to count them?
The lowest count was in 1938. The Spanish Civil War, coupled with the boycott
of Uruguay, Argentina and most of the "Western hemisphere" qualifiers dried up the pool of Spanish language qualifiers. Cuba was that WC's sole Spanish speaking representative, thus guaranteeing that the language can be said to have been present in every World Cup.
--Axiom|itico:
Ll|-o
MH escreveu:1938 had Germany and Austria in it - in theory, but then actually also in practice... better drop it.
On 2022-06-19 04:45, Ion Saliu wrote:
How about Spanish rCo 10?
Spain
Portugal
Argentina
Brazil
Uruguay
Costa Rica
Ecuador
Mexico
United States
Canada
Spanish is certainly not an official language in Canada, and does not
even rank in the top 5 most spoken mother tongues (English, French, Mandarin, Cantonese, Punjabi I think. Tagalog might be next).
Spanish also does not have official status in the US, or Portugal and I suspect not in Brazil though I would welcome correction there.You're right. Indeed it is not even the most widely spoken foreign language in Brasil, which is English. I suspect, but do not know that for a fact, that
Portugese is the predominant and official language in the last two.
this is also true in Portugal as well (would welcome correction here too).
Continuing the theme of this thread, I suppose the most Lusophone World Cup ever had to be 2006, with Brasil, Portugal and Angola all involved.
Most Germanophone WC? I guess it has to be one with all of Germany, Austria and Switzerland (maybe Liechtenstein will join them someday in a 48-team WC? :-)). Any other beyond 1934 and 1954?
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Ll|-o
On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 4:24:23 AM UTC+3, Ll|-o wrote:
Ion Saliu escreveu:
How about Spanish rCo 10?
SpainAs pointed out elsewhere, we should probably count only 6 or 7 of the above
Portugal
Argentina
Brazil
Uruguay
Costa Rica
Ecuador
Mexico
United States
Canada
(depending on whether it's fair to count the US or not). For Spanish, that's
par for the course for the last 10 WC's or so, more or less, if I looked things
up correctly. The most Hispanophone WC was 2014, with 9 countries having it as
an official or proeminent language: Spain, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Ecuador,
Colombia, Mexico, Costa Rica and Honduras. If one prefers to count the US as
well, there's your 10.
In terms of proportion of teams, though, I don't think one could surpass the
1930 World Cup, with 7 of the 13 teams coming from Spanish-speaking countries:
Uruguay, Argentina, Paraguay, Peru, Chile, Bolivia and Mexico. The US was there
too fwiw, so maybe 8 if you want to count them?
The lowest count was in 1938. The Spanish Civil War, coupled with the boycott
of Uruguay, Argentina and most of the "Western hemisphere" qualifiers dried
up the pool of Spanish language qualifiers. Cuba was that WC's sole Spanish
speaking representative, thus guaranteeing that the language can be said to
have been present in every World Cup.
I did understand your attempt at humor, and therefore didn't bother to respond.--Axiom|itico:
Ll|-o
I should have added [H] to me reply rCo
rCLSpoiler alert! Humo(u)r involved!rCY
Aksiomatika:
I should have added [H] to me reply rCo
rCLSpoiler alert! Humo(u)r involved!rCY
No wonder no native English-speaker reacted to my post the way you did.
I would have expected, though, another type of reaction. Like: rCLThere ainrCOt no Spanish rCo itrCOs CatalanrCa or it is BasquerCarCY
BBRRRRRRRRAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
The clear majority at 2022, however, belongs to NATO: 13 (out of 30 total membersrCa not far from 50%). Can you spot them, aksiomatika?
After all, soccer is a surrogate for war. Armageddon is coming! Armageddon is coming!
Fortunately, the Pope is against the war. Can you tell the predominant religion at 2022 World Cup? Spoiler alert: it ainrCOt the hostrCa although they are more numerous than ever.
Spoiler alert: The Pope should award the 2022 ChampionrCa
Ion rCLParpaluckrCY SaliuOther interesting facts about the World Cup rCo
Truthful Warrior At-Large
https://www.facebook.com/Parpaluck
Most Germanophone WC? I guess it has to be one with all of Germany, Austria1938 had Germany and Austria in it - in theory, but then actually also in practice... better drop it.
and Switzerland (maybe Liechtenstein will join them someday in a 48-team WC?
:-)). Any other beyond 1934 and 1954?
1934 and 1954 both also had Belgium and Italy in it, two countries where German today is an official
language (although it wasn't at the time).
(and 1934 Czechoslovakia had a population of 20% German speakers. Better drop that, too)
On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 1:42:32 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
1934 edges it, because only part of Germany (West Germany) were at the 1954 World Cup.1938 had Germany and Austria in it - in theory, but then actually also in practice... better drop it.
Most Germanophone WC? I guess it has to be one with all of Germany, Austria >>> and Switzerland (maybe Liechtenstein will join them someday in a 48-team WC?
:-)). Any other beyond 1934 and 1954?
1934 and 1954 both also had Belgium and Italy in it, two countries where German today is an official
language (although it wasn't at the time).
(and 1934 Czechoslovakia had a population of 20% German speakers. Better drop that, too)
There is a serious problem, though. Russian rCo 0.
Em segunda-feira, 20 de junho de 2022 |as 07:16:07 UTC-3, Ion Saliu escreveu:Actually, I was just taking the hook to add some trivia about something I had never thought about in World Cups. Seemed in line with the topic ->\_(paa)_/-> So, trivia time for you people. There are three languages that have been "represented" in every World Cup. I just told you all what one of them is,
On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 4:24:23 AM UTC+3, Ll|-o wrote:
[Let's snip what I wrote about Spanish language countries in the WC]
Axiom|itico:
I should have added [H] to me reply rCo
rCLSpoiler alert! Humo(u)r involved!rCY
I did understand your attempt at humor, and therefore didn't bother to respond.
But it was easy to miss it, because in your post you seemed to play two opposing roles at once for comedic effect, a bit too sophisticated and surreal. Not many people are used to that.
Jesus Petry escreveu:
Em segunda-feira, 20 de junho de 2022 |as 07:16:07 UTC-3, Ion Saliu escreveu:
On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 4:24:23 AM UTC+3, Ll|-o wrote:
[Let's snip what I wrote about Spanish language countries in the WC]
Axiom|itico:
I should have added [H] to me reply rCo
rCLSpoiler alert! Humo(u)r involved!rCY
I did understand your attempt at humor, and therefore didn't bother to respond.
But it was easy to miss it, because in your post you seemed to play two
opposing roles at once for comedic effect, a bit too sophisticated and
surreal. Not many people are used to that.
Actually, I was just taking the hook to add some trivia about something I had never thought about in World Cups. Seemed in line with the topic ->\_(paa)_/->
So, trivia time for you people. There are three languages that have been "represented" in every World Cup. I just told you all what one of them is,
in my previous post. But what are the other two?
----- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
Ll|-o
On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 1:16:07 PM UTC+3, Ion Saliu wrote:
Aksiomatika:
I should have added [H] to me reply rCo
rCLSpoiler alert! Humo(u)r involved!rCY
No wonder no native English-speaker reacted to my post the way you did.
I would have expected, though, another type of reaction. Like: rCLThere ainrCOt no Spanish rCo itrCOs CatalanrCa or it is BasquerCarCY
BBRRRRRRRRAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
The clear majority at 2022, however, belongs to NATO: 13 (out of 30 total membersrCa not far from 50%). Can you spot them, aksiomatika?
After all, soccer is a surrogate for war. Armageddon is coming! Armageddon is coming!
Fortunately, the Pope is against the war. Can you tell the predominant religion at 2022 World Cup? Spoiler alert: it ainrCOt the hostrCa although they are more numerous than ever.
Spoiler alert: The Pope should award the 2022 ChampionrCa
Ultra Axiomatix:Ion rCLParpaluckrCY SaliuOther interesting facts about the World Cup rCo
Truthful Warrior At-Large
https://www.facebook.com/Parpaluck
You watch a match, say, in the Top-5 European championships, or in UEFA Champions League. You notice religion is omnipresent. The players perform religious acts, especially praying and looking up to the sky (like to the Supreme Referee). Most prayers are representative of Catholicism and Islam. Which brings me to this fact:
rCo The Vatican holds the most World Cups: 16 trophies
rCo Protestantism: 5
rCo Orthodox Christianity: 0
rCo Islam: 0
rCo Buddhism: 0
rCo Hindu: 0
rCo Shinto: 0
rCo Other credos: 0
From another perspective, NATO holds the most World Cup trophies: 12.
rCo Warsaw Pact: 0 (where art thou Hungary... Russia... Ukraine... ?)
rCo Other military alliances: 0
Las Vegas is brewing some enticing bets for this edition of the World Cup rCo
rCo [(NATO) AND (Catholic)]: (7 titles so far) ?
rCo [(NATO) AND (Protestant)]: (5 so far) ?
The latter is the most attractive bet to me (the opening line was 13/1). Holland failed too many times in the finals (3 so far)rCa
BBRRRRRRRRAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
On 2022-06-21 20:16, Ll|-o wrote:
Jesus Petry escreveu:to respond.
Em segunda-feira, 20 de junho de 2022 |as 07:16:07 UTC-3, Ion Saliu escreveu:
On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 4:24:23 AM UTC+3, Ll|-o wrote:
[Let's snip what I wrote about Spanish language countries in the WC]
Axiom|itico:
I should have added [H] to me reply rCo
rCLSpoiler alert! Humo(u)r involved!rCY
I did understand your attempt at humor, and therefore didn't bother
But it was easy to miss it, because in your post you seemed to play two
opposing roles at once for comedic effect, a bit too sophisticated and
surreal. Not many people are used to that.
Actually, I was just taking the hook to add some trivia about something I had
never thought about in World Cups. Seemed in line with the topic ->\_(paa)_/->
So, trivia time for you people. There are three languages that have been
"represented" in every World Cup. I just told you all what one of them is, >> in my previous post. But what are the other two?
Well Brazil have played in all of them, right ? So portugese.
And I have an inkling French is the other one. Belgium were there in
1930, France in the next two. Add in Switzerland and Haiti, and I think >every cup is covered.
--
Ll|-o
On 2022-06-21 08:21, Mark wrote:
On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 1:42:32 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
??? The premise here is number of German speaking countries, and the1934 edges it, because only part of Germany (West Germany) were at the 1954 World Cup.1938 had Germany and Austria in it - in theory, but then actually also in practice... better drop it.
Most Germanophone WC? I guess it has to be one with all of Germany, Austria
and Switzerland (maybe Liechtenstein will join them someday in a 48-team WC?
:-)). Any other beyond 1934 and 1954?
1934 and 1954 both also had Belgium and Italy in it, two countries where German today is an official
language (although it wasn't at the time).
(and 1934 Czechoslovakia had a population of 20% German speakers. Better drop that, too)
federal republic of Germany (West Germany) was a German speaking
country. 1954 had 3 countries in the finals that had German as an
official language (at that time). The Saarland could also have
qualified but were drawn in a group with Germany. Although I guess they
were a protectorate, not a country. East Germany first entered the WCQ
in the 1958 version.
On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 6:36:13 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
??? The premise here is number of German speaking countries, and
the federal republic of Germany (West Germany) was a German
speaking country. 1954 had 3 countries in the finals that had
German as an official language (at that time). The Saarland could
also have qualified but were drawn in a group with Germany.
Although I guess they were a protectorate, not a country. East
Germany first entered the WCQ in the 1958 version.
Well, there could be a (possibly weak) case for claiming West Germany
was only half a country.
On 2022-06-21 20:16, Ll|-o wrote:Indeed! For some reason I was kinda expecting English to have been ever present as well, but as Real Mardin pointed out in another post, there was
Actually, I was just taking the hook to add some trivia about something I had
never thought about in World Cups. Seemed in line with the topic ->\_(paa)_/->
So, trivia time for you people. There are three languages that have been "represented" in every World Cup. I just told you all what one of them is, in my previous post. But what are the other two?
Well Brazil have played in all of them, right ? So portugese.
And I have an inkling French is the other one. Belgium were there in
1930, France in the next two. Add in Switzerland and Haiti, and I think every cup is covered.
MH escreveu:
On 2022-06-21 20:16, Ll|-o wrote:
Actually, I was just taking the hook to add some trivia about something I had
never thought about in World Cups. Seemed in line with the topic ->\_(paa)_/->
So, trivia time for you people. There are three languages that have been >>> "represented" in every World Cup. I just told you all what one of them is, >>> in my previous post. But what are the other two?
Well Brazil have played in all of them, right ? So portugese.
And I have an inkling French is the other one. Belgium were there in
1930, France in the next two. Add in Switzerland and Haiti, and I think
every cup is covered.
Indeed! For some reason I was kinda expecting English to have been ever present as well, but as Real Mardin pointed out in another post, there was
no English speaking country in WC 1938.
German also misses only one Cup, 1930. Germany's near perfect attendance in the World Cup pretty much guarantees its presence every time. Switzerland
was there in the only other World Cup they missed, 1950.
A similar case goes for Italian, which has only gone missing in two World Cups. Not the present-day two in a row to which Italy failed to qualify,
as Switzerland again came to the rescue in these, but the other two Cups, 1930 and 1958.
Another quiz question for you rss people: what was the least linguistically diverse World Cup?
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Ll|-o
Another quiz question for you rss people: what was the least linguistically diverse World Cup?
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 7:07:00 PM UTC-4, Ll|-o wrote:I had just gone for the naive approach of counting how many languages were "represented" in each WC :-) (btw, under that premise, the answer is 1930,
Another quiz question for you rss people: what was the least linguistically
diverse World Cup?
Nice thread. How do you measure linguistic diversity?
Something like a Herfindahl index (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herfindahl%E2%80%93Hirschman_index)?..why not try this? With language data gathered from each country's Wikipedia entry and indexes below multiplied by 10,000, here's what I got:
Or do you also take into account the linguistic distance between NTs? (That is,That would be an interesting one. I'd give it a stab, but I don't know where to find
a WC with exactly half the teams that speak Spanish and half the teams that speak
French would be less diverse than one in which half the teams speak Spanish and
the other half speaks Japanese...)
The thread title also begs the question "What was the least English speaking World Cup?"
The answer is 1938 - not a single English speaking team were at the tournament.
Dutch was, however, very well represented, with the following three nations being at the tournament:
Belgium
Dutch East Indies
Netherlands
RM
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