for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
FC Liverpool vs FC Villarreal 1.26 5.75 11.50--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
for a semi finals, those some one-sided oddsNew Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote: >>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird. >> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote: >>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote: >>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
A cheap handball pk gives the old timers hope. Carvahal was too hesitant and directly responsible for 3 goals.4-3 City final.It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch. Anyone's tie in the second leg.
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote: >>>>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird. >>>> If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
4-3 City final.
City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.
On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote: >>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote: >>>>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
4-3 City final.
City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
incredibly dull.
goals in it that engaged me less. Now you might say that this is--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
because I don't really care who wins, but that is not really true,
because I think this mediocre Real Madrid team does not deserve another Champions' league title, and have been hoping someone, even PSG, would dispose of them. On the other hand, much as I am against most of what
Man City and their owners represent, I think they usually play very interesting football, and would not begrudge Guardiola a CL title with
them.
Anyone's tie in the second leg.
On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote: >>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote: >>>>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
4-3 City final.
City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
incredibly dull. I don't think I have ever seen a game with this many
goals in it that engaged me less.
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:36 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote: >>>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote: >>>>>>>> for a semi finals, those some one-sided odds
If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.New Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
4-3 City final.
City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.
incredibly dull. I don't think I have ever seen a game with this many
goals in it that engaged me less.
Then you must be a hard man to please! It's not like the goals were low quality types - e.g. deflections, own goals, or corners. Almost all were technically well executed finishes, despite the defensive mistakes that led to them.
On 2022-04-27 08:54, Al Kamista wrote:One assumes it will be different today, with Villarreal playing ultra defensively and trying to keep this 0-0. Liverpool have too many ways to score, so I doubt they can do it. Also probably a bit more intensity than yesterday, just cus that is they way Liverpool play.
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:36 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of >>>> the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better >>>> but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote: >>>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.for a semi finals, those some one-sided oddsNew Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
4-3 City final.
City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.
incredibly dull. I don't think I have ever seen a game with this many
goals in it that engaged me less.
Then you must be a hard man to please! It's not like the goals were low quality types - e.g. deflections, own goals, or corners. Almost all were technically well executed finishes, despite the defensive mistakes that led to them.Again, it could just be my state of mind, but it seemed to me the game lacked any sense of urgency. City could have picked up the pace after
the second goal and put this thing out of reach, but they didn't. Real seemed happy to stay within one goal when they could. Maybe they think
the away goals rule still applies. Don't get why Grealish did not get a
run out. He is good for winning fouls if nothing else, and with Real's
back 4 looking fragile, might have got something going.
Without Cancelo and Walker, and with Dias have missed a few matches and
not back to normal yet, City do look vulnerable.
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 11:49:31 a.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:If you are a Yellow submarine fan, so far it is going to plan.
On 2022-04-27 08:54, Al Kamista wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:36 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of >>>> the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better >>>> but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
for a semi finals, those some one-sided oddsNew Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
4-3 City final.
City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.
incredibly dull. I don't think I have ever seen a game with this many >> goals in it that engaged me less.
Then you must be a hard man to please! It's not like the goals were low quality types - e.g. deflections, own goals, or corners. Almost all were technically well executed finishes, despite the defensive mistakes that led to them.Again, it could just be my state of mind, but it seemed to me the game lacked any sense of urgency. City could have picked up the pace after
the second goal and put this thing out of reach, but they didn't. Real seemed happy to stay within one goal when they could. Maybe they think
the away goals rule still applies. Don't get why Grealish did not get a run out. He is good for winning fouls if nothing else, and with Real's back 4 looking fragile, might have got something going.
Without Cancelo and Walker, and with Dias have missed a few matches and not back to normal yet, City do look vulnerable.One assumes it will be different today, with Villarreal playing ultra defensively and trying to keep this 0-0. Liverpool have too many ways to score, so I doubt they can do it. Also probably a bit more intensity than yesterday, just cus that is they way Liverpool play.
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:01:52 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:It ended 2-0 and Liverpool are through to the final.
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 11:49:31 a.m. UTC-4, MH wrote:
On 2022-04-27 08:54, Al Kamista wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 5:23:36 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
On 2022-04-26 14:57, Al Kamista wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:??? Maybe it is just me and post-covid blahs, but I found this
On 2022-04-26 13:52, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:53:19 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:Some pretty sloppy defending at both ends, considering these are 2 of
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:47:24 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:If City don't lose their heads like PSG and Chelsea, they will win comfortably. Casemiro is a big loss in the middle.
for a semi finals, those some one-sided oddsNew Money vs Old Money, every one (except the bookies) knows that Old Money always wins.
ManCity vs Real Madrid 1.46 4.50 7.00
Pep with a real number 9 as the Jesus starts, which is just plain weird.
It looked like it was going to be a case of elder abuse, but the oldtimers got an away goal and New Money look shaky at the back, so I wont be surprised if Old Money ties this up in the 2nd half.
the top 5 teams in the world in many people's books. City look better
but could easily lose this game or, more likely, the tie.
4-3 City final.
City should never have let it get this close. Several golden chances spurned and sloppy defending on both second half Madrid goals. Great game to watch.
incredibly dull. I don't think I have ever seen a game with this many >> goals in it that engaged me less.
Then you must be a hard man to please! It's not like the goals were low quality types - e.g. deflections, own goals, or corners. Almost all were technically well executed finishes, despite the defensive mistakes that led to them.Again, it could just be my state of mind, but it seemed to me the game lacked any sense of urgency. City could have picked up the pace after the second goal and put this thing out of reach, but they didn't. Real seemed happy to stay within one goal when they could. Maybe they think the away goals rule still applies. Don't get why Grealish did not get a run out. He is good for winning fouls if nothing else, and with Real's back 4 looking fragile, might have got something going.
If you are a Yellow submarine fan, so far it is going to plan.Without Cancelo and Walker, and with Dias have missed a few matches and not back to normal yet, City do look vulnerable.One assumes it will be different today, with Villarreal playing ultra defensively and trying to keep this 0-0. Liverpool have too many ways to score, so I doubt they can do it. Also probably a bit more intensity than yesterday, just cus that is they way Liverpool play.
Liverpool should score at some point, but I think that is how it went for Bayern and Juve in the past rounds.
This tie is done according to the math equation I saw, but I will let you math nerds verify.The old timers here will remember a Real Madrid fan on RSS called Raulinho7, who used to troll Barca by saying that they had won fewer European Cups than Nottingham Forest. Remarkably, that was true until 2006. It would be nice to see Forest back in the top flight. Isn't Nottingham one of the largest cities in Europe without domestic top flight representation?
If team X has never scored more than 2 goals in a match and team Y has never scored less than 1 goal in a match, can team X come back in the second match of a two round tie if team Y won the first match 2-0?
There is an interesting match in the WWEpl 2nd div ( I think it is actually called the WCW?) on now between Borneo and Nottingham Forest. If Forest win they will be in the drivers seat for a return to the 1st div ( they just hit the post,0-0). This would be the first time Forest have been in the 1st division since Trevor Francis left.
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:11:56 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
This tie is done according to the math equation I saw, but I will let you math nerds verify.
If team X has never scored more than 2 goals in a match and team Y has never scored less than 1 goal in a match, can team X come back in the second match of a two round tie if team Y won the first match 2-0?
There is an interesting match in the WWEpl 2nd div ( I think it is actually called the WCW?) on now between Borneo and Nottingham Forest. If Forest win they will be in the drivers seat for a return to the 1st div ( they just hit the post,0-0). This would be the first time Forest have been in the 1st division since Trevor Francis left.The old timers here will remember a Real Madrid fan on RSS called Raulinho7, who used to troll Barca by saying that they had won fewer European Cups than Nottingham Forest. Remarkably, that was true until 2006. It would be nice to see Forest back in the top flight. Isn't Nottingham one of the largest cities in Europe without domestic top flight representation?
This tie is done according to the math equation I saw, but I will let you math nerds verify.
If team X has never scored more than 2 goals in a match and team Y has never scored less than 1 goal in a match, can team X come back in the second match of a two round tie if team Y won the first match 2-0?
Better verify this equation.
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
Better verify this equation.
And we have a semifinal on our hands...
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:11:56 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
This tie is done according to the math equation I saw, but I will let you math nerds verify.
If team X has never scored more than 2 goals in a match and team Y has never scored less than 1 goal in a match, can team X come back in the second match of a two round tie if team Y won the first match 2-0?
There is an interesting match in the WWEpl 2nd div ( I think it is actually called the WCW?) on now between Borneo and Nottingham Forest. If Forest win they will be in the drivers seat for a return to the 1st div ( they just hit the post,0-0). This would be the first time Forest have been in the 1st division since Trevor Francis left.
The old timers here will remember a Real Madrid fan on RSS called Raulinho7, who used to troll Barca by saying that they had won fewer European Cups than Nottingham Forest. Remarkably, that was true until 2006. It would be nice to see Forest back in the top flight. Isn't Nottingham one of the largest cities in Europe without domestic top flight representation?
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:A bit surprised by that scoreline, but totally deserved.
Better verify this equation.
And we have a semifinal on our hands...
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:44:26 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
Better verify this equation.
And we have a semifinal on our hands...N.I.G.H.T.M.A.R.E.
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:52:41 PM UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:44:26 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
Better verify this equation.
Liverpool woke up in the second half. 2-2, tie overAnd we have a semifinal on our hands...N.I.G.H.T.M.A.R.E.
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:28:03 p.m. UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:52:41 PM UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:44:26 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:Liverpool woke up in the second half. 2-2, tie over
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:N.I.G.H.T.M.A.R.E.
Better verify this equation.
And we have a semifinal on our hands...
Didn't any of you read " Team X never scores more than 2 goals and team
Y never scores less than 1"?
0-0 ht. Forest need to win for a chance at direct promotion, I think they will be in the play off regardless of the score today.And what's worse they brought in a Premier League refereeing team especially to ensure the highest standard of officiating in this promotion decider!
I guess they dont have the VARobots in the 2nd div. Forest denied a good chance and penalty due to a really bad offside call, he looked onside >by a metre.
Forest look the better side from what I have seen, though that could be due to their kit, which is this bright, neon yellow and orange that looks >just like the safety vests worn by highway construction workers.Yeah I said the same - "Highway Maintenance" as they're referred to in the UK. Forest did look the better side In the first half and as well as the penalty shout missed a chance to take the lead after about 5 minutes when Surridge was put through but hit his shot against the crossbar. Bournemouth dominated play in the second half and just seemed to be the first to every loose or 50/50 ball. Forest completely went to sleep defensively for the set piece goal that won Bournemouth the game and promotion - player completely unmarked has the ball passed to him on the ground and slots it home.
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:52:41 PM UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:In continuation of my Klopp worship, few managers show better in-game management than him. Most regular Liverpool watchers will attest that this happens time after time - a staid first half performance followed by fireworks in the second, spurned by some serious psychological and tactical fine-tuning at halftime.
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:44:26 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
Better verify this equation.
Liverpool woke up in the second half. 2-2, tie overAnd we have a semifinal on our hands...N.I.G.H.T.M.A.R.E.
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:28:03 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:xG fun https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/9ac3e3568006e9f5834e3608c92d09e3/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/05/03/16516115873479.png
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:52:41 PM UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:44:26 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
Better verify this equation.
In continuation of my Klopp worship, few managers show better in-game management than him. Most regular Liverpool watchers will attest that this happens time after time - a staid first half performance followed by fireworks in the second, spurned by some serious psychological and tactical fine-tuning at halftime.Liverpool woke up in the second half. 2-2, tie overAnd we have a semifinal on our hands...N.I.G.H.T.M.A.R.E.
https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/9ac3e3568006e9f5834e3608c92d09e3/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/05/03/16516115873479.png
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 6:13:31 PM UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/9ac3e3568006e9f5834e3608c92d09e3/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/05/03/16516115873479.png
Villarreal in red and Liverpool in yellow/gold? Someone should fire the Marca graphics person
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 6:31:20 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 6:13:31 PM UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/9ac3e3568006e9f5834e3608c92d09e3/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/05/03/16516115873479.png
Villarreal in red and Liverpool in yellow/gold? Someone should fire the Marca graphics person:-)
Or their QA person.
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 12:13:55 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com
wrote: Real are out passing and out possessing City right now, I
think they are going to nick this.
Not only can these teams make a 4-3 boring, they can make a 0-0 bring
as well.
Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 12:13:55 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote: Real are out passing and out possessing City right now, I
think they are going to nick this.
Not only can these teams make a 4-3 boring, they can make a 0-0 bringI don't think it's a boring match, it looks like Real will regret their missed chances though.
as well.
Another all-English Champions League Final is on the cards at this rate.
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:38:13 p.m. UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 12:13:55 p.m. UTC-4,
alka...@hotmail.com wrote: Real are out passing and out
possessing City right now, I think they are going to nick this.
Not only can these teams make a 4-3 boring, they can make a 0-0I don't think it's a boring match, it looks like Real will regret
bring as well.
their missed chances though.
I find the pace of the game to be quite slow.
Another all-English Champions League Final is on the cards at this
rate.
Yeah, it is over, new money wins
Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:38:13 p.m. UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 12:13:55 p.m. UTC-4,
alka...@hotmail.com wrote: Real are out passing and out
possessing City right now, I think they are going to nick this.
Not only can these teams make a 4-3 boring, they can make a 0-0I don't think it's a boring match, it looks like Real will regret
bring as well.
their missed chances though.
I find the pace of the game to be quite slow.Well, compared to last week's match it probably is, but it has been end-to-end, just not at the frantic pace of the first leg.
Another all-English Champions League Final is on the cards at this
rate.
Yeah, it is over, new money winsMaybe not just yet! ;-)
Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:38:13 p.m. UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 12:13:55 p.m. UTC-4,
alka...@hotmail.com wrote: Real are out passing and out
possessing City right now, I think they are going to nick this.
Not only can these teams make a 4-3 boring, they can make a 0-0I don't think it's a boring match, it looks like Real will regret
bring as well.
their missed chances though.
I find the pace of the game to be quite slow.Well, compared to last week's match it probably is, but it has been end-to-end, just not at the frantic pace of the first leg.
Another all-English Champions League Final is on the cards at this
rate.
Yeah, it is over, new money winsMaybe not just yet! ;-)
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:48:06 PM UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:38:13 p.m. UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 12:13:55 p.m. UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote: Real are out passing and out
possessing City right now, I think they are going to nick this.
Not only can these teams make a 4-3 boring, they can make a 0-0 bring as well.I don't think it's a boring match, it looks like Real will regret their missed chances though.
I find the pace of the game to be quite slow.Well, compared to last week's match it probably is, but it has been end-to-end, just not at the frantic pace of the first leg.
Another all-English Champions League Final is on the cards at this rate.
bleeping Real MadridYeah, it is over, new money winsMaybe not just yet! ;-)
Maybe not just yet! ;-)
bleeping Real Madrid
On 4.5.2022. 22:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Maybe not just yet! ;-)
bleeping Real MadridWhere is AGR now when you need it...
On 4.5.2022. 22:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Maybe not just yet! ;-)
bleeping Real MadridWhere is AGR now when you need it...
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:57:36 p.m. UTC-4, vedran wrote:
On 4.5.2022. 22:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Maybe not just yet! ;-)
bleeping Real MadridWhere is AGR now when you need it...
The good news for Mancity is they have almost 30 minutes to get it
back
Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:57:36 p.m. UTC-4, vedran wrote:
On 4.5.2022. 22:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Maybe not just yet! ;-)
bleeping Real MadridWhere is AGR now when you need it...
The good news for Mancity is they have almost 30 minutes to get itThe way the two legs of this semi-final have gone absolutely ANYTHING
back
could happen!!!
Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:57:36 p.m. UTC-4, vedran wrote:
On 4.5.2022. 22:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Where is AGR now when you need it...Maybe not just yet! ;-)
bleeping Real Madrid
The good news for Mancity is they have almost 30 minutes to get it
back
The way the two legs of this semi-final have gone absolutely ANYTHING
could happen!!!
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:15:14 p.m. UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:57:36 p.m. UTC-4, vedran wrote:
On 4.5.2022. 22:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Maybe not just yet! ;-)
bleeping Real MadridWhere is AGR now when you need it...
The good news for Mancity is they have almost 30 minutes to get
it back
The way the two legs of this semi-final have gone absolutely
ANYTHING could happen!!!
Oh dear, Man City not only need to by Haaland, they need to buy new defenders.
In article <t4uqcv$nru$1...@dont-email.me>,
Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
Binder Dundat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:57:36 p.m. UTC-4, vedran wrote:
On 4.5.2022. 22:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Where is AGR now when you need it...Maybe not just yet! ;-)
bleeping Real Madrid
The good news for Mancity is they have almost 30 minutes to get it
back
The way the two legs of this semi-final have gone absolutely ANYTHING >could happen!!!Paris UCL game
Liverpool vs RMadrid!
Red vs White!
Madrid, Madrid, Maaaadrid,.........Maaaaaaaaadriiiiiiiiiid...................HALA MADRID!!!!
No "FA Cup Final" in the Champions League! *Thank you* Real Madrid!
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:39:34 PM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
Madrid, Madrid, Maaaadrid,.........Maaaaaaaaadriiiiiiiiiid...................HALA MADRID!!!!
LOL!No "FA Cup Final" in the Champions League! *Thank you* Real Madrid!I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am glad not to see an all-EPL final. Also, this is also Alkamista's fault: his poll and the overwhelming lead taken by Guardiola obviously angered the Weaufx Gods
There is something supernatural at play here. Not once, not twice, but thrice. The pundits will all
come out with their 20/20 hindsight and try to explain what happened, but the truth is that this pattern is inexplicable.
I said earlier on a Liverpool board earlier today that while Real will be easier opponents than City, losing to Real will be more painful (after 2018).
There is something supernatural at play here. Not once, not twice, but thrice.
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:55:07 PM UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:Yes I agree that random things happen, even in abundance in clusters sometimes. I read a book in college (eons ago) on interesting statistical anomalies. It had an anecdote about an Amtrak train in the 80s that got into 4-5 accidents (some fatal) within a span of less than 48 hours. The crew and management freaked out and labeled it a "rogue train" and decommissioned it. But taking a larger view, the author concluded that with the sheer volume of train traffic over decades and decades, the statistical probability that a single train (or maybe more) will get into multiple accidents in a short span of time was virtually guaranteed. So Real Madrid is that train here (but in a positive sense for them).
There is something supernatural at play here. Not once, not twice, but thrice. The pundits will allNah. There is a lot of this type of punditry going around tonight:
come out with their 20/20 hindsight and try to explain what happened, but the truth is that this pattern is inexplicable.
https://xkcd.com/904/
It's not about Madrid's "DNA" or other such silliness. Sometimes, football happens. And some rarer times, it happens more than once in the same direction.
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am glad not
to see an all-EPL final.
On 4.5.2022. 23:55, Al Kamista wrote:
At least you don't have to worry about Karius and Ramos, but imagine ifKarius is still on Liverpool's books.
Bale gets subbed in and decides again, that would be another level of absurdity.
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 6:46:13 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:55:07 PM UTC-4, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
There is something supernatural at play here. Not once, not twice, but thrice. The pundits will all
come out with their 20/20 hindsight and try to explain what happened, but the truth is that this pattern is inexplicable.
Nah. There is a lot of this type of punditry going around tonight:
https://xkcd.com/904/
It's not about Madrid's "DNA" or other such silliness. Sometimes, football happens. And some rarer times, it happens more than once in the same direction.
Yes I agree that random things happen, even in abundance in clusters sometimes. I read a book in college (eons ago) on interesting statistical anomalies. It had
an anecdote about an Amtrak train in the 80s that got into 4-5 accidents (some fatal) within a span of less than 48 hours. The crew and management freaked
out and labeled it a "rogue train" and decommissioned it. But taking a larger view, the author concluded that with the sheer volume of train traffic over decades
and decades, the statistical probability that a single train (or maybe more) will get into multiple accidents in a short span of time was virtually guaranteed. So
Real Madrid is that train here (but in a positive sense for them).
On the flip side, as mentioned earlier, they are very fortunate that all 3 ties had them playing home in the second leg. And it's also undeniable that psychology
plays a big part in the game, and once Real got even a little momentum late in these games, the opposition shat their pants (and that mental effect snowballed
as it repeated itself over 3 rounds).
So yes, nothing to do with DNA, but rather home field advantage, unnerved opposition, and a pretty crazy amount of luck.
Futbolmetrix avait |-nonc|- :You always have the choice of not watching, so what's the problem? I don't watch motor sports and golf for the same reason.
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am glad notWhere is the difference.
to see an all-EPL final.
Always the same teams.
Absolutely boring.
On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 4:30:05 AM UTC+2, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
So yes, nothing to do with DNA, but rather home field advantage, unnerved opposition, and a pretty crazy amount of luck.So you admit there still *is* home field advantage, and it *is* an advantage to play additional 30 minutes at home.
Pep found wanting in the CL again!
Real Madrid were the better team over the two legs.
Futbolmetrix avait |-nonc|- :
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am glad not to see an
all-EPL final.
Where is the difference.
Always the same teams.
Absolutely boring.
On 2022-05-05 00:15, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:For comparison, here's the Superbowl lineup:
Futbolmetrix avait |-nonc|- :
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am glad not to see an
all-EPL final.
Where is the difference.
Always the same teams.
Absolutely boring.
In the last five years we have had
Liverpool - Real Madrid
Spurs - Liverpool
Bayern - PSG
Chelsea - Man City
Liverpool- Real Madrid
7 different teams for 10 finalist spots. I am not sure that constitutes "always the same teams".
On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 12:50:13 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:NBA:
On 2022-05-05 00:15, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
Futbolmetrix avait |-nonc|- :
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am glad not to see an >> all-EPL final.
Where is the difference.
Always the same teams.
Absolutely boring.
In the last five years we have had
Liverpool - Real Madrid
Spurs - Liverpool
Bayern - PSG
Chelsea - Man City
Liverpool- Real Madrid
7 different teams for 10 finalist spots. I am not sure that constitutes "always the same teams".For comparison, here's the Superbowl lineup:
Rams - Bengals
Bucs - Chiefs
Chiefs - 49ers
Pats - Rams
Eagles - Pats
7 different teams. The NFL has a lot more financial parity, plus a draft system for further egalitarianism.
But same result.
On 2022-05-05 00:15, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:But go back another 5 years and Real have a further 3 finals, Atl|-tico 2 and Juve 2. So there is some tendency to see the same teams return to the final.
Futbolmetrix avait |-nonc|- :
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am glad not to see an
all-EPL final.
Where is the difference.
Always the same teams.
Absolutely boring.
In the last five years we have had
Liverpool - Real Madrid
Spurs - Liverpool
Bayern - PSG
Chelsea - Man City
Liverpool- Real Madrid
7 different teams for 10 finalist spots. I am not sure that constitutes "always the same teams".
On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 5:50:13 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:That may be true, but the same applies in many American sporting leagues (which are the best comparison to the CL because they have similar big money teams).
On 2022-05-05 00:15, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
Futbolmetrix avait |-nonc|- :
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am glad not to see an >> all-EPL final.
Where is the difference.
Always the same teams.
Absolutely boring.
In the last five years we have had
Liverpool - Real Madrid
Spurs - Liverpool
Bayern - PSG
Chelsea - Man City
Liverpool- Real Madrid
7 different teams for 10 finalist spots. I am not sure that constitutes "always the same teams".But go back another 5 years and Real have a further 3 finals, Atl|-tico 2 and Juve 2. So there is some tendency to see the same teams return to the final.
On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 5:50:13 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
On 2022-05-05 00:15, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
Futbolmetrix avait |-nonc|- :In the last five years we have had
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am glad not to see an >>>> all-EPL final.
Where is the difference.
Always the same teams.
Absolutely boring.
Liverpool - Real Madrid
Spurs - Liverpool
Bayern - PSG
Chelsea - Man City
Liverpool- Real Madrid
7 different teams for 10 finalist spots. I am not sure that constitutes
"always the same teams".
But go back another 5 years and Real have a further 3 finals, Atl|-tico 2 and Juve 2. So there is some tendency to see the same teams return to the final.
RM--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
On 2022-05-05 00:15, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
Futbolmetrix avait ononco :In the last five years we have had
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am glad
not to see an all-EPL final.
Where is the difference.
Always the same teams.
Absolutely boring.
7 different teams for 10 finalist spots. I am not sure that
constitutes "always the same teams".
On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:15:09 AM UTC-4, ixion martin -
GdBx wrote:
Futbolmetrix avait ononco :
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am gladWhere is the difference.
not to see an all-EPL final.
Always the same teams.
Absolutely boring.
You always have the choice of not watching,
so what's the problem?
Marseilles is playing in the Conference League semifinals
today. And as I type, Ceferin is probably telling the
referees that the French club must lose, because he hates
baguettes so much :-)
Al Kamista a penso tr*s fort :
On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:15:09 AM UTC-4, ixion martin
- GdBx wrote:
Futbolmetrix avait ononco :
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am gladWhere is the difference. Always the same teams. Absolutely
not to see an all-EPL final.
boring.
You always have the choice of not watching,
It is what I did...
so what's the problem?
We had a true treasure 35 years ago and I miss it.
MH a couch|- sur son |-cran :
On 2022-05-05 00:15, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
Futbolmetrix avait |-nonc|- :In the last five years we have had
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am glad not to see
an all-EPL final.
Where is the difference.
Always the same teams.
Absolutely boring.
Why five ? And not ten or fifteen ?
7 different teams for 10 finalist spots.-a I am not sure that
constitutes "always the same teams".
How many countries ?
On 06/05/2022 00:01, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:The six finalists in the three European finals this year come from six different countries,
MH a couch|- sur son |-cran :
On 2022-05-05 00:15, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:
Futbolmetrix avait |-nonc|- :In the last five years we have had
I don't particularly like Real Madrid, but I too am glad not to see >>>> an all-EPL final.
Where is the difference.
Always the same teams.
Absolutely boring.
Why five ? And not ten or fifteen ?Why not eight or twelve?! ;-)
7 different teams for 10 finalist spots. I am not sure that
constitutes "always the same teams".
How many countries ?
Realistically, the winner of the European Super League, I mean UEFA Champions League, are always going to be one of the big teams from oneAjax were a minute away from reaching the final three years ago. It's not entirely inconceivable.
of the 'big five' European leagues... the competition is designed that way.
I don't see it changing anytime soon.
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:14:53 PM UTC+2, Blueshirt wrote:
Realistically, the winner of the European Super League, I mean
UEFA Champions League, are always going to be one of the big
teams from one of the 'big five' European leagues... the
competition is designed that way.
I don't see it changing anytime soon.
Ajax were a minute away from reaching the final three years ago.
It's not entirely inconceivable.
Werner Pichler wrote:5 leagues is still a lot. I am not sure what people want, the footballing equivalent of communism?
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:14:53 PM UTC+2, Blueshirt wrote:
Realistically, the winner of the European Super League, I mean
UEFA Champions League, are always going to be one of the big
teams from one of the 'big five' European leagues... the
competition is designed that way.
I don't see it changing anytime soon.
Ajax were a minute away from reaching the final three years ago.A minute is a long time in football! :-)
It's not entirely inconceivable.
No it's not inconceivable. But the way the tournament has been geared
with all the changes over the years, it does favour the top teams
from the big European leagues. What with seedings and 'this' team
can't play 'that' team, etc...
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
Werner Pichler wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:14:53 PM UTC+2, Blueshirt wrote:A minute is a long time in football! :-)
Realistically, the winner of the European Super League, I mean
UEFA Champions League, are always going to be one of the big
teams from one of the 'big five' European leagues... the
competition is designed that way.
I don't see it changing anytime soon.
Ajax were a minute away from reaching the final three years ago.
It's not entirely inconceivable.
No it's not inconceivable. But the way the tournament has been geared
with all the changes over the years, it does favour the top teams
from the big European leagues. What with seedings and 'this' team
can't play 'that' team, etc...
5 leagues is still a lot. I am not sure what people want, the footballing equivalent of communism?
It is at the end of the day, a commercial sport. And UEFA now has 3 tournaments, exactly for the reason that people are complaining - that smaller leagues have a chance at continental glory. The scenes at Ibrox were something yesterday; it was louder than the Bernabeu was a day earlier.
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:What?!? There are 55 UEFA members. Granted some are bigger than others but if the finalists are mainly coming from the same 5 nations that means clubs from 89% of nations are in effect shut out of the final.
Werner Pichler wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:14:53 PM UTC+2, Blueshirt wrote:
Realistically, the winner of the European Super League, I mean
UEFA Champions League, are always going to be one of the big
teams from one of the 'big five' European leagues... the
competition is designed that way.
I don't see it changing anytime soon.
Ajax were a minute away from reaching the final three years ago.A minute is a long time in football! :-)
It's not entirely inconceivable.
No it's not inconceivable. But the way the tournament has been geared5 leagues is still a lot.
with all the changes over the years, it does favour the top teams
from the big European leagues. What with seedings and 'this' team
can't play 'that' team, etc...
I am not sure what people want, the footballing equivalent of communism?We didn't have the footballing equivalent of communism in the 80's and 90's, as always some clubs were richer than others, but we did have a more diverse range of European finalists with the likes of Steaua Bucharest, Red Star Belgrade, PSV, Videoton, IFK Goteborg, Salzburg, Galatasaray, Dinamo Tiblisi, Carl Zeiss Jena, Standard Liege, Rapid Vienna, Dundee United, Aberdeen, Mechelen and Dynamo Kyiv all making finals.
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 2:00:42 PM UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
No it's not inconceivable. But the way the tournament has been5 leagues is still a lot.
geared with all the changes over the years, it does favour the
top teams from the big European leagues. What with seedings and
'this' team can't play 'that' team, etc...
What?!? There are 55 UEFA members. Granted some are bigger than
others but if the finalists are mainly coming from the same 5 nations
that means clubs from 89% of nations are in effect shut out of the
final.
I am not sure what people want, the footballing equivalent of
communism?
We didn't have the footballing equivalent of communism in the 80's
and 90's, as always some clubs were richer than others, but we did
have a more diverse range of European finalists with the likes of
Steaua Bucharest, Red Star Belgrade, PSV, Videoton, IFK Goteborg,
Salzburg, Galatasaray, Dinamo Tiblisi, Carl Zeiss Jena, Standard
Liege, Rapid Vienna, Dundee United, Aberdeen, Mechelen and Dynamo
Kyiv all making finals.
Real Mardin wrote:Yeah exactly, I read years ago that it was Bayern Munich and Real Madrid getting each other in the first round of the European Cup in the late 80rCOs that inspired the creation of the Champions League.
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 2:00:42 PM UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
No it's not inconceivable. But the way the tournament has been5 leagues is still a lot.
geared with all the changes over the years, it does favour the
top teams from the big European leagues. What with seedings and
'this' team can't play 'that' team, etc...
What?!? There are 55 UEFA members. Granted some are bigger than
others but if the finalists are mainly coming from the same 5 nations
that means clubs from 89% of nations are in effect shut out of the
final.
I am not sure what people want, the footballing equivalent of
communism?
We didn't have the footballing equivalent of communism in the 80'sThe fact that UEFA tournaments back then had open draws also helped the non-fashionable teams progress in the tournaments. Two BIG teams could
and 90's, as always some clubs were richer than others, but we did
have a more diverse range of European finalists with the likes of
Steaua Bucharest, Red Star Belgrade, PSV, Videoton, IFK Goteborg, Salzburg, Galatasaray, Dinamo Tiblisi, Carl Zeiss Jena, Standard
Liege, Rapid Vienna, Dundee United, Aberdeen, Mechelen and Dynamo
Kyiv all making finals.
draw each other in the early rounds of the European Cup and one would
get knocked out. This was what helped lead to the creation of the
Champions League as the 'big' teams didn't like the idea of a cup
tournament that they could get knocked out of early.
On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 11:06:01 AM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:Not only that, but a pure knockout format favors lesser teams. So the present day status quo is as much a result of the group stage format as it is of financial dispairty. Without a group stage I'm sure we'd see a lot more Villareal type runs.
Real Mardin wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 2:00:42 PM UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
No it's not inconceivable. But the way the tournament has been geared with all the changes over the years, it does favour the5 leagues is still a lot.
top teams from the big European leagues. What with seedings and 'this' team can't play 'that' team, etc...
What?!? There are 55 UEFA members. Granted some are bigger than
others but if the finalists are mainly coming from the same 5 nations that means clubs from 89% of nations are in effect shut out of the final.
I am not sure what people want, the footballing equivalent of communism?
Yeah exactly, I read years ago that it was Bayern Munich and Real Madrid getting each other in the first round of the European Cup in the late 80rCOs that inspired the creation of the Champions League.We didn't have the footballing equivalent of communism in the 80'sThe fact that UEFA tournaments back then had open draws also helped the non-fashionable teams progress in the tournaments. Two BIG teams could draw each other in the early rounds of the European Cup and one would
and 90's, as always some clubs were richer than others, but we did
have a more diverse range of European finalists with the likes of
Steaua Bucharest, Red Star Belgrade, PSV, Videoton, IFK Goteborg, Salzburg, Galatasaray, Dinamo Tiblisi, Carl Zeiss Jena, Standard
Liege, Rapid Vienna, Dundee United, Aberdeen, Mechelen and Dynamo
Kyiv all making finals.
get knocked out. This was what helped lead to the creation of the Champions League as the 'big' teams didn't like the idea of a cup tournament that they could get knocked out of early.
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
Werner Pichler wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:14:53 PM UTC+2, BlueshirtA minute is a long time in football! :-)
wrote:
Realistically, the winner of the European Super League, I
mean UEFA Champions League, are always going to be one of
the big teams from one of the 'big five' European
leagues... the competition is designed that way.
I don't see it changing anytime soon.
Ajax were a minute away from reaching the final three years
ago. It's not entirely inconceivable.
No it's not inconceivable. But the way the tournament has
been geared with all the changes over the years, it does
favour the top teams from the big European leagues. What
with seedings and 'this' team can't play 'that' team,
etc...
5 leagues is still a lot.
I am not sure what people want, the footballing equivalent of
communism?
It is at the end of the day, a commercial sport. And UEFA now
has 3 tournaments, exactly for the reason that people are
complaining - that smaller leagues have a chance at
continental glory. The scenes at Ibrox were something
yesterday; it was louder than the Bernabeu was a day earlier.
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-4, Blueshirt
wrote:
Werner Pichler wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:14:53 PM UTC+2, BlueshirtA minute is a long time in football! :-)
wrote:
Realistically, the winner of the European Super League,
I mean UEFA Champions League, are always going to be
one of the big teams from one of the 'big five'
European leagues... the competition is designed that
way.
I don't see it changing anytime soon.
Ajax were a minute away from reaching the final three
years ago. It's not entirely inconceivable.
No it's not inconceivable. But the way the tournament has
been geared with all the changes over the years, it does
favour the top teams from the big European leagues. What
with seedings and 'this' team can't play 'that' team,
etc...
5 leagues is still a lot.
I am not sure what people want, the footballing equivalent
of
communism?
It is at the end of the day, a commercial sport. And UEFA
now has 3 tournaments, exactly for the reason that people
are complaining - that smaller leagues have a chance at
continental glory. The scenes at Ibrox were something
yesterday; it was louder than the Bernabeu was a day
earlier.
Al Kamista |-crivit en ce vendredi :While the Europa League has had finalists from 12 different countries in the same period.
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
Werner Pichler wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:14:53 PM UTC+2, BlueshirtA minute is a long time in football! :-)
wrote:
Realistically, the winner of the European Super League, I
mean UEFA Champions League, are always going to be one of
the big teams from one of the 'big five' European
leagues... the competition is designed that way.
I don't see it changing anytime soon.
Ajax were a minute away from reaching the final three years
ago. It's not entirely inconceivable.
No it's not inconceivable. But the way the tournament has
been geared with all the changes over the years, it does
favour the top teams from the big European leagues. What
with seedings and 'this' team can't play 'that' team,
etc...
5 leagues is still a lot.What ? Over more than 50 ?
I am not sure what people want, the footballing equivalent ofExcept Paris in 2020, Monaco and Porto in 2004, all the
communism?
finalists since 1997 come from *four* contries. 25 years, 56
countries playing, 50 finalists, 47 from only 4 countries :
- Spain : 16
- England : 15
- Italy : 9
- Germany : 9
- France : 2
- Portugal : 1
On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 7:42:36 AM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:What a supremely American thing to say.
On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 11:06:01 AM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
Real Mardin wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 2:00:42 PM UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
No it's not inconceivable. But the way the tournament has been geared with all the changes over the years, it does favour the5 leagues is still a lot.
top teams from the big European leagues. What with seedings and 'this' team can't play 'that' team, etc...
What?!? There are 55 UEFA members. Granted some are bigger than
others but if the finalists are mainly coming from the same 5 nations that means clubs from 89% of nations are in effect shut out of the final.
I am not sure what people want, the footballing equivalent of communism?
We didn't have the footballing equivalent of communism in the 80's
and 90's, as always some clubs were richer than others, but we did have a more diverse range of European finalists with the likes of Steaua Bucharest, Red Star Belgrade, PSV, Videoton, IFK Goteborg, Salzburg, Galatasaray, Dinamo Tiblisi, Carl Zeiss Jena, Standard Liege, Rapid Vienna, Dundee United, Aberdeen, Mechelen and Dynamo
Kyiv all making finals.
The fact that UEFA tournaments back then had open draws also helped the non-fashionable teams progress in the tournaments. Two BIG teams could draw each other in the early rounds of the European Cup and one would get knocked out. This was what helped lead to the creation of the Champions League as the 'big' teams didn't like the idea of a cup tournament that they could get knocked out of early.Yeah exactly, I read years ago that it was Bayern Munich and Real Madrid getting each other in the first round of the European Cup in the late 80rCOs that inspired the creation of the Champions League.
Not only that, but a pure knockout format favors lesser teams. So the present day status quo is as much a result of the group stage format as it is of financial dispairty. Without a group stage I'm sure we'd see a lot
more Villareal type runs.
The problem also is, Europe has way too many countries for such a small continent (no wonder they break out in war every few decades).
On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 2:15:09 PM UTC+2, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:Wow, so much disdain for Americans. Though not having grown up here I am far from a "typical" American.
On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 7:42:36 AM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 11:06:01 AM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
Real Mardin wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 2:00:42 PM UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
No it's not inconceivable. But the way the tournament has been geared with all the changes over the years, it does favour the top teams from the big European leagues. What with seedings and 'this' team can't play 'that' team, etc...5 leagues is still a lot.
What?!? There are 55 UEFA members. Granted some are bigger than others but if the finalists are mainly coming from the same 5 nations
that means clubs from 89% of nations are in effect shut out of the final.
I am not sure what people want, the footballing equivalent of communism?
We didn't have the footballing equivalent of communism in the 80's and 90's, as always some clubs were richer than others, but we did have a more diverse range of European finalists with the likes of Steaua Bucharest, Red Star Belgrade, PSV, Videoton, IFK Goteborg, Salzburg, Galatasaray, Dinamo Tiblisi, Carl Zeiss Jena, Standard Liege, Rapid Vienna, Dundee United, Aberdeen, Mechelen and Dynamo Kyiv all making finals.
The fact that UEFA tournaments back then had open draws also helped theYeah exactly, I read years ago that it was Bayern Munich and Real Madrid getting each other in the first round of the European Cup in the late 80rCOs that inspired the creation of the Champions League.
non-fashionable teams progress in the tournaments. Two BIG teams could draw each other in the early rounds of the European Cup and one would get knocked out. This was what helped lead to the creation of the Champions League as the 'big' teams didn't like the idea of a cup tournament that they could get knocked out of early.
Not only that, but a pure knockout format favors lesser teams. So the present day status quo is as much a result of the group stage format as it is of financial dispairty. Without a group stage I'm sure we'd see a lot
more Villareal type runs.
The problem also is, Europe has way too many countries for such a small continent (no wonder they break out in war every few decades).What a supremely American thing to say.
On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 7:42:36 AM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 11:06:01 AM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
Real Mardin wrote:
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 2:00:42 PM UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:31:01 AM UTC-4, Blueshirt wrote:
5 leagues is still a lot.
No it's not inconceivable. But the way the tournament has been
geared with all the changes over the years, it does favour the
top teams from the big European leagues. What with seedings and
'this' team can't play 'that' team, etc...
What?!? There are 55 UEFA members. Granted some are bigger than
others but if the finalists are mainly coming from the same 5 nations
that means clubs from 89% of nations are in effect shut out of the
final.
I am not sure what people want, the footballing equivalent of
communism?
We didn't have the footballing equivalent of communism in the 80's
and 90's, as always some clubs were richer than others, but we did
have a more diverse range of European finalists with the likes of
Steaua Bucharest, Red Star Belgrade, PSV, Videoton, IFK Goteborg,
Salzburg, Galatasaray, Dinamo Tiblisi, Carl Zeiss Jena, Standard
Liege, Rapid Vienna, Dundee United, Aberdeen, Mechelen and Dynamo
Kyiv all making finals.
The fact that UEFA tournaments back then had open draws also helped theYeah exactly, I read years ago that it was Bayern Munich and Real Madrid getting each other in the first round of the European Cup in the late 80rCOs that inspired the creation of the Champions League.
non-fashionable teams progress in the tournaments. Two BIG teams could
draw each other in the early rounds of the European Cup and one would
get knocked out. This was what helped lead to the creation of the
Champions League as the 'big' teams didn't like the idea of a cup
tournament that they could get knocked out of early.
Not only that, but a pure knockout format favors lesser teams. So the present day status quo is as much a result of the group stage format as it is of financial dispairty. Without a group stage I'm sure we'd see a lot more Villareal type runs.
The problem also is, Europe has way too many countries for such a small continent (no wonder they break out in war every few decades).--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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