• CONCACAF tonight

    From Bruce Scott@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 17:48:35 2022
    MH gave the review of CAN - USA... it doesn't matter if we play well
    if we don't score, as we also almost didn't against El Sal. Both we
    and Mexico are in danger of getting pipped, like we did last time, and
    now there are two teams laying in wait. We absolutely have to beat
    PAN and CRC now, which for us is a tall order. We have to find goals,
    and players who can take them.

    Tonight against HON is of course an absolutely must-win affair.

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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 13:18:20 2022
    On 2022-02-02 10:48, Bruce Scott wrote:
    MH gave the review of CAN - USA... it doesn't matter if we play well
    if we don't score, as we also almost didn't against El Sal. Both we
    and Mexico are in danger of getting pipped, like we did last time, and
    now there are two teams laying in wait. We absolutely have to beat
    PAN and CRC now, which for us is a tall order. We have to find goals,
    and players who can take them.

    Tonight against HON is of course an absolutely must-win affair.


    At home to Honduras, I find it hard to imagine the US won't get the job
    done. Berhalter has come in for a lot of flack about the loss vs.
    Canada, but I think this is not very fair. The US did not qualify last
    time, and Berhalter has led them to win both the Nations' league and
    Gold Cup. He has brought in a lot of good young players to the fold,
    and he has the team poised to qualify for the world cup. Sure, things
    can still go wrong, but with a home game vs. Honduras, and Panama having
    to play both the US and Mexico away, the chances are they won't.

    US played quite well vs. Canada and could easily have won or drawn. We
    had to defend fairly desperately at times, and were slightly lucky on
    the yellow card front (though one set of stats I saw say we only
    committed 10 fouls to 15 from the US ?). US was more aggressive and
    quicker to the ball. Dominant as Berhalter suggested? Perhaps not - not
    enough shots and only 3 on target, only one of which required a really
    good save.

    Seems to me there is a lot of arrogance in the criticism of Berhalter, including the assumption that beating Canada should be a matter of
    course. Wake up guys (Hercules Gomez in particular) ! Unlike in the
    past, there are about half a dozen guys in the Canadian squad who one
    could argue would start for the US. Underestimating opposition is one
    reason you didn't qualify last time.

    Prediction: 2-0

    As for tonight's other matches.

    Mexico - Panama. El tri should be able to put some daylight between
    them and their opponents, at home in the Azteca. Seems to me Panama
    have been punching above their weight, and lack of depth could start to
    work against them. Tata is under pressure, though, and, who knows, the Mexicans could choke. The expression "cagarse" springs to mind.

    Prediction 3-1

    El Salvdor - Canada. We have not done particularly well there over the
    years (better than away to Honduras, though), so I think this could be a
    slip up. El Salvador will be confident and riding high after an away
    win to arch-rivals Honduras. A Canadian loss would not surprise me and
    I would be perfectly happy with a point. Zachary Brault-Girard called
    into the squad for Canada - a bit odd as he is a right back and we
    already have Laryea and Johnson who can play there. Vitoria suspended.
    I heard Buchanan was too, but I checked the yellows and that does not
    seem to be true. NO Davies, still no Eustaquio last I heard.

    Prediction 1-1

    Jamaica - Costa Rica.

    Jamaica yet to win at home, though they have had creditable draws with
    Canada and the US, and a narrow loss to Mexico. Win this one and their remaining two home games (El Salvador and Hondurs), and get a point
    against a (hopefully already qualified) Canada, and they might just haul themselves into contention for 4th place. Costa Rica really need this
    one too, so it is probably the match of the round. I would guess a draw.

    Prediction 1-1
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 14:13:53 2022
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 3:18:24 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:

    At home to Honduras,
    Likely in conditions more suited to ice hockey (actually, make that ice fishing) than to soccer. I get that US Soccer wants to plays its central American foes in places with: a) a relatively small immigrant population; and b) in the most inhospitable conditions possible. But at a certain point, this is going to backfire. The Yanks are a much better team than Honduras, and playing in absurdly cold temperatures, if anything, favors the underdog. Plus, the national team is by now sufficiently popular that it can get decent home support even if it played in a more normal climate.
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 23:18:49 2022
    In article <steoue$234$1@dont-email.me>, MH <MHnospam@ucalgary.ca> wrote:
    On 2022-02-02 10:48, Bruce Scott wrote:
    MH gave the review of CAN - USA... it doesn't matter if we play well
    if we don't score, as we also almost didn't against El Sal. Both we
    and Mexico are in danger of getting pipped, like we did last time, and
    now there are two teams laying in wait. We absolutely have to beat
    PAN and CRC now, which for us is a tall order. We have to find goals,
    and players who can take them.

    Tonight against HON is of course an absolutely must-win affair.


    At home to Honduras, I find it hard to imagine the US won't get the job >done. Berhalter has come in for a lot of flack about the loss vs.
    Canada, but I think this is not very fair. The US did not qualify last >time, and Berhalter has led them to win both the Nations' league and
    Gold Cup. He has brought in a lot of good young players to the fold,
    and he has the team poised to qualify for the world cup. Sure, things
    can still go wrong, but with a home game vs. Honduras, and Panama having
    to play both the US and Mexico away, the chances are they won't.

    US played quite well vs. Canada and could easily have won or drawn. We
    had to defend fairly desperately at times, and were slightly lucky on
    the yellow card front (though one set of stats I saw say we only
    committed 10 fouls to 15 from the US ?). US was more aggressive and
    quicker to the ball. Dominant as Berhalter suggested? Perhaps not - not >enough shots and only 3 on target, only one of which required a really
    good save.

    Seems to me there is a lot of arrogance in the criticism of Berhalter, >including the assumption that beating Canada should be a matter of
    course. Wake up guys (Hercules Gomez in particular) ! Unlike in the
    past, there are about half a dozen guys in the Canadian squad who one
    could argue would start for the US. Underestimating opposition is one >reason you didn't qualify last time.

    Prediction: 2-0

    As for tonight's other matches.

    Mexico - Panama. El tri should be able to put some daylight between
    them and their opponents, at home in the Azteca. Seems to me Panama
    have been punching above their weight, and lack of depth could start to
    work against them. Tata is under pressure, though, and, who knows, the >Mexicans could choke. The expression "cagarse" springs to mind.

    Prediction 3-1

    El Salvdor - Canada. We have not done particularly well there over the >years (better than away to Honduras, though), so I think this could be a >slip up. El Salvador will be confident and riding high after an away
    win to arch-rivals Honduras. A Canadian loss would not surprise me and
    I would be perfectly happy with a point. Zachary Brault-Girard called
    into the squad for Canada - a bit odd as he is a right back and we
    already have Laryea and Johnson who can play there. Vitoria suspended.
    I heard Buchanan was too, but I checked the yellows and that does not
    seem to be true. NO Davies, still no Eustaquio last I heard.

    Prediction 1-1


    0 - 2

    Jamaica - Costa Rica.

    Jamaica yet to win at home, though they have had creditable draws with >Canada and the US, and a narrow loss to Mexico. Win this one and their >remaining two home games (El Salvador and Hondurs), and get a point
    against a (hopefully already qualified) Canada, and they might just haul >themselves into contention for 4th place. Costa Rica really need this
    one too, so it is probably the match of the round. I would guess a draw.

    Prediction 1-1


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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 16:22:41 2022
    On 2022-02-02 15:13, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 3:18:24 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:

    At home to Honduras,

    Likely in conditions more suited to ice hockey (actually, make that ice fishing) than to soccer.

    That reminds me of the joke about the Newfoundlander (substitute
    appropriate butt of jokes as you please) who was killed while ice
    fishing. He was run over by a Zamboni.



    I get that US Soccer wants to plays its central American foes in
    places with: a) a relatively small immigrant population; and b) in the
    most inhospitable conditions possible. But at a certain point, this is
    going to backfire. The Yanks are a much better team than Honduras, and
    playing in absurdly cold temperatures, if anything, favors the underdog.
    Plus, the national team is by now sufficiently popular that it can get
    decent home support even if it played in a more normal climate.


    It worked for us vs. Mexico and Costa Rica. US should be acclimatized
    after Hamilton on Sunday, where I gather it was quite cold by game time.


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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 15:26:36 2022
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 9:48:37 AM UTC-8, Bruce Scott wrote:

    Tonight against HON is of course an absolutely must-win affair.

    MEX-PAN is even more so for Mexico. Mexico can recover with a victory at Azteca over the United States. But Panama is only one point behind the two, and, hence, in the interconfederational playoff spot.

    Mike
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 17:13:57 2022
    Oh she looks cold in Minnesota ya. But no snow and it looks a real grass pitch, must be heated, not even Canadians would be ice fishing without a heated hut in those temps. It is working though, Hondurans frozen out, USA ahead 2-0


    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 6:26:37 p.m. UTC-5, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 9:48:37 AM UTC-8, Bruce Scott wrote:

    Tonight against HON is of course an absolutely must-win affair.
    MEX-PAN is even more so for Mexico. Mexico can recover with a victory at Azteca over the United States. But Panama is only one point behind the two, and, hence, in the interconfederational playoff spot.

    Mike
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Feb 3 01:58:53 2022
    In article <0c5210e5-5cba-4dda-85dd-35c7b8909244n@googlegroups.com>,
    Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:
    Oh she looks cold in Minnesota ya. But no snow and it looks a real
    grass pitch, must be heated, not even Canadians would be ice fishing
    without a heated hut in those temps. It is working though, Hondurans
    frozen out, USA ahead 2-0


    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 6:26:37 p.m. UTC-5, Michael Falkner wrote: >> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 9:48:37 AM UTC-8, Bruce Scott wrote:

    Tonight against HON is of course an absolutely must-win affair.
    MEX-PAN is even more so for Mexico. Mexico can recover with a victory
    at Azteca over the United States. But Panama is only one point behind
    the two, and, hence, in the interconfederational playoff spot.

    Mike

    Live

    Costa Rica 1 Jamaica 0 in Kingston

    66' USA 2 Honduras 0

    SLV vs CAN about to start !
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 18:52:43 2022
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 8:58:55 p.m. UTC-5, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <0c5210e5-5cba-4dda...@googlegroups.com>,
    Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Oh she looks cold in Minnesota ya. But no snow and it looks a real
    grass pitch, must be heated, not even Canadians would be ice fishing >without a heated hut in those temps. It is working though, Hondurans >frozen out, USA ahead 2-0


    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 6:26:37 p.m. UTC-5, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 9:48:37 AM UTC-8, Bruce Scott wrote:

    Tonight against HON is of course an absolutely must-win affair.
    MEX-PAN is even more so for Mexico. Mexico can recover with a victory
    at Azteca over the United States. But Panama is only one point behind
    the two, and, hence, in the interconfederational playoff spot.

    Mike
    Live

    Costa Rica 1 Jamaica 0 in Kingston

    66' USA 2 Honduras 0

    SLV vs CAN about to start !

    sorta similar to the Honduras game but mre chippy
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 19:06:38 2022
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 6:22:45 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
    It worked for us vs. Mexico and Costa Rica. US should be acclimatized
    after Hamilton on Sunday, where I gather it was quite cold by game time.
    Right, it can make sense for a relative underdog like Canada against Mexico or Costa Rica, not so much when you are the overwhelming favorite. Anyway, USA took care of business, comfortably beating Honduras 3-0. Now watching MEX-PAN, qualification 6-pointer.
    Hopefully Panama wins, if only because Mexico should be punished for never wearing their green jersey
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 19:28:28 2022
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 9:52:45 p.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 8:58:55 p.m. UTC-5, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <0c5210e5-5cba-4dda...@googlegroups.com>,
    Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Oh she looks cold in Minnesota ya. But no snow and it looks a real
    grass pitch, must be heated, not even Canadians would be ice fishing >without a heated hut in those temps. It is working though, Hondurans >frozen out, USA ahead 2-0


    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 6:26:37 p.m. UTC-5, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 9:48:37 AM UTC-8, Bruce Scott wrote: >>
    Tonight against HON is of course an absolutely must-win affair.
    MEX-PAN is even more so for Mexico. Mexico can recover with a victory >at Azteca over the United States. But Panama is only one point behind >the two, and, hence, in the interconfederational playoff spot.

    Mike
    Live

    Costa Rica 1 Jamaica 0 in Kingston

    66' USA 2 Honduras 0

    SLV vs CAN about to start !
    sorta similar to the Honduras game but mre chippy

    sorta weird rebound own goal, but giving it to Hutchinson, so 1-0 and all but qualified
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  • From doctor@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Feb 3 03:29:38 2022
    In article <465133ac-04c2-4108-bf4d-72af6acf2bden@googlegroups.com>,
    Binder Dundat <dundat@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 8:58:55 p.m. UTC-5, The Doctor wrote:
    In article <0c5210e5-5cba-4dda...@googlegroups.com>,
    Binder Dundat <dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Oh she looks cold in Minnesota ya. But no snow and it looks a real
    grass pitch, must be heated, not even Canadians would be ice fishing
    without a heated hut in those temps. It is working though, Hondurans
    frozen out, USA ahead 2-0


    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 6:26:37 p.m. UTC-5, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 9:48:37 AM UTC-8, Bruce Scott wrote: >> >>
    Tonight against HON is of course an absolutely must-win affair.
    MEX-PAN is even more so for Mexico. Mexico can recover with a victory
    at Azteca over the United States. But Panama is only one point behind
    the two, and, hence, in the interconfederational playoff spot.

    Mike
    Live

    Costa Rica 1 Jamaica 0 in Kingston

    66' USA 2 Honduras 0


    3 - 0 in -18 C!

    SLV vs CAN about to start !


    1- 0 71'

    sorta similar to the Honduras game but mre chippy
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 20:01:26 2022
    USA 3-0 HON FT comfortable win

    JAM 0-1 CRC FT

    SLV 1-2 CAN FT CAN retains top of the table.

    MEX 0-0 PAN HT in the match of the round.

    Live table

    CAN 25
    USA 21
    MEX*18
    PAN* 17
    CRC 16

    Add El Salvador and Jamaica to Honduras as eliminated.

    Mike
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 20:05:00 2022
    Is this COVID or sanctions for the Mexican stadium tonight?

    Mike
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 20:06:31 2022
    Yep, it's sanctions.

    Second match of a two-match home-fans ban.

    They get them back for the critical match with the USA in the next international window.

    Mike
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 20:08:24 2022
    And it's early VAR second-half drama in Mexico City.

    Goal disallowed, ball in the lead-up was completely over touch.

    (Correctly disallowed, for what it is worth.)

    Match reverts to scoreless, 2 minutes into the half.

    Mike
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 20:39:59 2022
    And a deserved breakthrough for Mexico on a penalty in the 80th minute.

    Mexico had about 10 minutes of near-sustained pressure in the Panama box, and finally got the ref to point at the spot on a trip by the Panamanian #5.

    MEX 1-0 PAN 80'

    Mike
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  • From Michael Falkner@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Wed Feb 2 21:00:14 2022
    And the penalty holds...

    MEX 1-0 PAN FT

    CAN 25
    USA 21 GD over
    MEX 21
    ---
    PAN 17
    ---
    CRC 16

    SLV is on the edge of being eliminated from the interconfed spot with 9 points. They are eliminated from direct qualification.

    Jamaica has joined Honduras as eliminated.

    That is the end of this international window for the CONCACAF Rockingest Qualifiers. Next round is March 24th, and is headlined with the Border War, MEX-USA.

    CRC hosts CAN in what is going to be a HUGE match for both sides. Only three rounds remain in the Octagonal.

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  • From Bruce Scott@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Feb 3 16:15:29 2022
    On 2022-02-02, MH <MHnospam@ucalgary.ca> wrote:
    On 2022-02-02 10:48, Bruce Scott wrote:
    MH gave the review of CAN - USA... [...]

    Tonight against HON is of course an absolutely must-win affair.

    At home to Honduras, I find it hard to imagine the US won't get the job done. [...]

    Yes, we should always beat them, and we finally found goals. The
    temperature (-16C at kickoff re Kicker) makes it controversial (is it
    FIFA or UEFA who have that -15C limit?). But, as Berhalter said, when
    we go down there in 30C 100% humidity and players suffer, "we know
    that Nature is on the side of the competition" :-) At least they
    didn't have driving snow like CRC did in that Denver blizzard a couple
    of times ago.

    All three N Am teams won, particularly MEX did us all a favour.
    Panama play tough, and the reason they were up there is beating us in
    the out legs of the Octogonal. We will have Panama at home later on.
    Win that and we are as good as through, regardless of the result in
    Mexico City.

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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Thu Feb 3 12:50:42 2022
    On 2022-02-02 20:06, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 6:22:45 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:

    It worked for us vs. Mexico and Costa Rica. US should be acclimatized
    after Hamilton on Sunday, where I gather it was quite cold by game time.

    Right, it can make sense for a relative underdog like Canada against Mexico or Costa Rica, not so much when you are the overwhelming favorite. Anyway, USA took care of business, comfortably beating Honduras 3-0. Now watching MEX-PAN, qualification 6-pointer.

    Hopefully Panama wins, if only because Mexico should be punished for never wearing their green jersey

    YES !

    I have no idea why they are not wearing green very often any more.


    Our game vs. El Salvador was not very good. Not a lot of passes strung together. Atiba with a fluky goal, then another very late one on a
    breakaway (good work by David), as in the last two games. I was
    certainly not expecting 9 points from these 3 games, so, well done, I
    guess (especially with all the squad rotation and travel). The
    performances themselves were not great, and we could have lost one or
    more of these games.

    El Salvador, like the US and Honduras, did not generate a lot of chances
    or make the most of the ones they had. Had a reasonable penalty shout
    which the ref did not call (perhaps because it came after a probable
    foul on Adekugbe that was also not called). Borjan had to make a good
    save very late on what was probably not even intended to be a shot from distance. We started Liam Miller, Henry, and Kennedy. Larin, Johnson
    and Buchanan were on the bench but did get in the game eventually. A
    full strength and fully fit Canada team might have made easier work of
    this.
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