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  • Re: The John De Lange RSS Sophisticated Prediction Contest: European Cu

    From anders t@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Dec 5 22:20:37 2021
    Quoting Jesper Lauridsen in rec.sport.soccer:
    Before the final matches:

    CL
    Anders T -29,8427803849

    8-O What!? Was I the only one trusting in good Ole Man United? :-)

    MH -32,2921958249
    CollectiveConsciousness -32,324965447
    Futbolmetrix -32,4782977956
    FiveThirtyEight -32,5221852268
    Jesper -32,7763249108
    fitbawnumbers -32,9412413047
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix) -33,41645398
    Jesus Petry -33,7423474751
    EuroClubIndex -34,7756169931
    Werner Pichler -34,8186697723
    Alessandro Riolo -35,2607707413
    @fantomen -35,6750951415
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -36,3578456248
    Jack C(@thirteen_nil) -36,3916628207
    Derbs McGee -37,8426335519
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -38,7808926527
    Agnostic -44,3614195558

    EL
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -33,3025177388
    Werner Pichler -33,7076844129
    EuroClubIndex -35,2485531809
    FiveThirtyEight -35,6177569166
    Jesper -35,8241593584
    Collective Consciousness -36,0037756096
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix) -36,4709721723
    Jesus Petry -37,0161576061
    Futbolmetrix -37,8392829426
    Alessandro Riolo -37,9502607365
    fitbawnumbers -38,2618959104
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -40,1732261799
    Jack C(@thirteen_nil) -40,1771001263
    MH -40,3918792344
    Anders T -42,3967044256

    Mission about to be accomplished (beat Aggie!).

    Agnostic -44,3614195558


    Conf
    Futbolmetrix -33,6910019707
    Collective Consciousness -36,3342765809
    Jesper -36,9393825115
    MH -38,0806828874
    Jack C(@thirteen_nil) -38,381507103
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix) -39,4410285911
    Werner Pichler -39,6793153156
    EuroClubIndex -39,7670387904
    fitbawnumbers -39,873678127
    Jesus Petry -40,2537863703
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -40,6736905617
    Anders T -41,84399505

    Mission about to be accomplished (beat Aggie!).

    Agnostic -44,3614195558
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -122,4076205636
    Alessandro Riolo -177,8116906131


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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Dec 7 14:57:00 2021
    On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 10:59:10 PM UTC+1, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
    On 2021-12-05, anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
    Quoting Jesper Lauridsen in rec.sport.soccer:
    Before the final matches:

    CL
    Anders T -29,8427803849

    8-O What!? Was I the only one trusting in good Ole Man United? :-)
    It's only 0.6 vs 0.56 for Collective Consciousness.

    Half the groups gone (too bad Milan couldn't pipe Sporting):

    Anders T -29,8456334538
    Jesper -29,9076146497
    MH -30,6182193913
    CollectiveConsciousness -30,985356638
    Futbolmetrix -31,0023912758
    FiveThirtyEight -31,1916702067
    fitbawnumbers -31,2512798066
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix) -31,9855199374
    Derbs McGee -32,2962549061
    Werner Pichler -32,4879138023
    EuroClubIndex -32,6950862012
    Jesus Petry -33,3408427682
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -34,5263735063
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -34,8041653391
    Alessandro Riolo -35,2607707413
    @fantomen -35,3557814758
    Jack C(@thirteen_nil) -35,6755633624
    Agnostic -44,3614195558

    Humanity strikes back!

    Ciao,
    Werner
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Tue Dec 7 23:49:48 2021
    On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 4:59:10 PM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
    On 2021-12-05, anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
    Quoting Jesper Lauridsen in rec.sport.soccer:
    Before the final matches:

    CL
    Anders T -29,8427803849

    8-O What!? Was I the only one trusting in good Ole Man United? :-)
    It's only 0.6 vs 0.56 for Collective Consciousness.

    Half the groups gone (too bad Milan couldn't pipe Sporting):

    Anders T -29,8456334538
    Jesper -29,9076146497
    MH -30,6182193913
    CollectiveConsciousness -30,985356638
    Futbolmetrix -31,0023912758
    FiveThirtyEight -31,1916702067
    fitbawnumbers -31,2512798066
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix) -31,9855199374
    Derbs McGee -32,2962549061
    Werner Pichler -32,4879138023
    EuroClubIndex -32,6950862012
    Jesus Petry -33,3408427682
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -34,5263735063
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -34,8041653391
    Alessandro Riolo -35,2607707413
    @fantomen -35,3557814758
    Jack C(@thirteen_nil) -35,6755633624
    Agnostic -44,3614195558

    I would be in first place (just a smidge ahead of FiveThirtyEight) if we were using the Brier scoring rule instead. Whoever invented this silly scoring method ?!?
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  • From anders t@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Fri Dec 10 23:58:46 2021
    Quoting Futbolmetrix in rec.sport.soccer:
    On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 9:45:59 PM UTC+2, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
    With half the groups in

    EL
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -33,2984297620474
    Werner Pichler -34,9604473814276
    Jesper -35,6567634518611
    FiveThirtyEight -35,8570825542889
    Collective Consciousness -36,210327318105
    EuroClubIndex -36,4117326845944
    Jesus Petry -37,46426123961
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix) -37,6880579830566
    Futbolmetrix -37,7894806065975
    Alessandro Riolo -37,9801136996012
    Jack C(@thirteen_nil) -38,3413044894812
    fitbawnumbers -39,3897542247344
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -40,0984827807336
    MH -40,9796658992865
    Anders T -42,5790259824173
    Agnostic -44,3614195558365


    Conf
    Jack C(@thirteen_nil) -27,7747550841919
    Futbolmetrix -30,0790835576775
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix) -31,1475639594336
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -31,6708075747241
    Collective Consciousness -32,0424200826341
    fitbawnumbers -32,1443904871306
    Werner Pichler -32,4821008298051
    Jesper -34,0898327481138
    MH -34,0961531911787
    EuroClubIndex -35,0597315955122
    Jesus Petry -40,2537863703376
    Anders T -41,3331694262456
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -43,5860402341141
    Agnostic -44,3614195558365
    Alessandro Riolo -177,841543576207

    CL final standings:

    MH -33.647
    FiveThirtyEight -33.841
    CollectiveConsciousness -34.346
    Futbolmetrix -34.695
    Jesper -34.970
    fitbawnumbers -35.083
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix) -35.289
    Alessandro Riolo -36.072
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -36.193
    Jesus Petry -36.248
    Anders T -36.321
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -36.533
    EuroClubIndex -36.649
    Derbs McGee -37.092
    Werner Pichler -37.946
    @fantomen -38.130
    Jack C(@thirteen_nil) -39.950
    Agnostic -44.361

    Congrats, MH!


    Yes, HOORAY!!!



    EL Sophcon final standings:

    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -35.015
    Werner Pichler -35.145
    CollectiveConsciousness -36.630
    EuroClubIndex -36.776
    Jesper -36.851
    FiveThirtyEight -37.158
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix) -37.452
    Jesus Petry -37.464
    Alessandro Riolo -37.980
    Futbolmetrix -38.283
    Jack C(@thirteen_nil) -38.853
    MH -39.999
    fitbawnumbers -40.617
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -40.732
    Anders T -42.761
    Agnostic -44.361

    Yay Transfermarkt! Werner dominates the EL Sophcon as usual (except when he doesn't)


    ConfL SophCon *NON-FINAL standings* (assuming Vitesse ahead of Spurs)

    Jack C(@thirteen_nil) -28.70424197
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix) -31.88772146
    Futbolmetrix -32.24504032
    fitbawnumbers -32.83067465
    CollectiveConsciousness -32.99415999
    Werner Pichler -33.073194
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -33.71133537
    Jesper -35.36279842
    EuroClubIndex -36.19134118
    MH -37.83827716
    Anders T -41.33316943
    Jesus Petry -41.60287982
    Agnostic -44.36141956
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -110.1596633
    Alessandro Riolo -180.5842793

    Well done Jack C, I take the first of the humans laurel (Jack C wins in any case, Werner would finish second if Spurs advance)






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