• Justin Langer: All Class

    From alvey@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket,uk.sport.cricket on Tue Feb 8 07:18:44 2022
    Has released a piece on his departure. If those NSW players and hacks who bought about his downfall possessed a small fraction of his class, dignity
    and devotion to Australian cricket then we'd all be in a far better place.


    https://tinyurl.com/2p9dz8dn


    alvey

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  • From alvey@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket,uk.sport.cricket on Tue Feb 8 09:22:27 2022
    On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 07:18:44 +1000, alvey wrote:

    Has released a piece on his departure. If those NSW players and hacks who bought about his downfall possessed a small fraction of his class, dignity and devotion to Australian cricket then we'd all be in a far better place.

    https://tinyurl.com/2p9dz8dn


    Adam Gilchrist, Australian cricket's Mr Good Bloke, also tears into CA and
    the NSW players & mefia.

    https://tinyurl.com/8fbatbmb



    alvey
    Unable to recall any NSW scumbag defending Langer or criticisng the NSW
    mefia.

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  • From max.it@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Wed Feb 9 21:19:57 2022
    On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 07:18:44 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:

    Has released a piece on his departure. If those NSW players and hacks who >bought about his downfall possessed a small fraction of his class, dignity >and devotion to Australian cricket then we'd all be in a far better place.


    https://tinyurl.com/2p9dz8dn


    alvey

    I always thought Langer was the nice guy with a bit more upstairs than
    the average Australian cricketer . Compared to Hayden it appeared that
    way anyhow.

    max.it

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  • From alvey@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Thu Feb 10 08:08:45 2022
    On Wed, 09 Feb 2022 21:19:57 +0000, max.it wrote:

    On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 07:18:44 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:

    Has released a piece on his departure. If those NSW players and hacks who >>bought about his downfall possessed a small fraction of his class, dignity >>and devotion to Australian cricket then we'd all be in a far better place. >>

    https://tinyurl.com/2p9dz8dn


    alvey

    I always thought Langer was the nice guy with a bit more upstairs than
    the average Australian cricketer . Compared to Hayden it appeared that
    way anyhow.


    They're both batsmen, so expectations aren't high...


    alvey
    Wondering if anyone's ever done a study on cricketers intelligence by speciality? I suspect it'd be;

    1 Finger spinners
    2 medium pacers
    3 wicket-keepers
    4 fast bowlers
    5 mo batters
    6 to batters
    last - wrist spinners





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  • From John Hall@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Thu Feb 10 09:37:52 2022
    In message <1trhi4em27pho.1wuj2ig0eauly$.dlg@40tude.net>, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> writes
    Wondering if anyone's ever done a study on cricketers intelligence by >speciality? I suspect it'd be;

    1 Finger spinners
    2 medium pacers
    3 wicket-keepers
    4 fast bowlers
    5 mo batters
    6 to batters
    last - wrist spinners

    You missed out a category below even wrist spinners: England cricket
    captains. (Sorry, Joe!)
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  • From mike@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Fri Feb 11 07:11:12 2022
    On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:42:39 AM UTC, John Hall wrote:
    In message <1trhi4em27pho.1wuj2ig0eauly$.d...@40tude.net>, alvey <al...@is.invalid> writes
    Wondering if anyone's ever done a study on cricketers intelligence by >speciality? I suspect it'd be;

    1 Finger spinners
    2 medium pacers
    3 wicket-keepers
    4 fast bowlers
    5 mo batters
    6 to batters
    last - wrist spinners
    You missed out a category below even wrist spinners: England cricket captains. (Sorry, Joe!)

    I think there have been 80 england test captains and i suspect that as
    most [all except Hutton?] before 1960 were amateurs, the majority
    probably had university degrees, probably from Oxford or cambridge,
    but since the 60s, most havnt. I can only think of Brearley, Atherton and Hussain offhand. Of course whether a uni degree is a good guide to intelligence, or being a good captain, is open to question.

    mike
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  • From John Hall@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Fri Feb 11 16:30:06 2022
    In message <4f981cbc-ca04-42a1-8ad2-21f526c88b38n@googlegroups.com>,
    mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
    On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:42:39 AM UTC, John Hall wrote:
    In message <1trhi4em27pho.1wuj2ig0eauly$.d...@40tude.net>, alvey
    <al...@is.invalid> writes
    Wondering if anyone's ever done a study on cricketers intelligence by
    speciality? I suspect it'd be;

    1 Finger spinners
    2 medium pacers
    3 wicket-keepers
    4 fast bowlers
    5 mo batters
    6 to batters
    last - wrist spinners
    You missed out a category below even wrist spinners: England cricket
    captains. (Sorry, Joe!)

    I think there have been 80 england test captains and i suspect that as
    most [all except Hutton?] before 1960 were amateurs,

    There were a few tours of Australia in the very earliest days that were
    led by professionals, as purely money-making ventures.

    the majority
    probably had university degrees, probably from Oxford or cambridge,
    but since the 60s, most havnt. I can only think of Brearley, Atherton and >Hussain offhand. Of course whether a uni degree is a good guide to >intelligence, or being a good captain, is open to question.

    A degree would probably be a lot better guide to intelligence nowadays
    than an Oxford or Cambridge degree would gave been a hundred years ago.
    But it still wouldn't guarantee that you were a good captain.
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  • From Andy Walker@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Fri Feb 11 17:06:02 2022
    On 11/02/2022 15:11, mike wrote:
    I think there have been 80 england test captains and i suspect that as
    most [all except Hutton?] before 1960 were amateurs, [...].

    Certainly not all; Lillywhite, Shaw and Shrewsbury [so the first,
    two of the first three, and three of the first six] were professionals.

    In relation to the discussion elsewhere in this thread, there would
    of course have been no proper measure of intelligence for any of them up to relatively recent times, and in any case IQ bears little relation either to "intelligence" or, more relevantly, to cricketing captaincy or other skills which include large elements of man-management and general sporting nous.

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