• Racing where it pays to race

    From bra@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Jun 18 09:39:22 2022
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet that the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value. Senior figures have expressed concern that it is hard to sell a grand prix as 'special' when they come thick and fast." (Guardian excerpt Saturday 18 June)
    While not as busy as Canadian professional hockey teams that may play 82 games a year, the F1 oddity is that European F1 circuits are falling off.
    The FIA and team owners are happy to put on a show in locations on the planet that cannot boast a century of motor racing activity, (Qatar, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia,) or even a minimal tradition of car ownership among the denizens (Turkey, Azerbaijan). "Goodbye, Spa Francochamps: who the hell in BELGIUM owns or races a car?"
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  • From Dan the Man@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Jun 20 07:39:50 2022
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 12:39:25 PM UTC-4, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet that the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value. Senior figures have expressed concern that it is hard to sell a grand prix as 'special' when they come thick and fast." (Guardian excerpt Saturday 18 June)

    While not as busy as Canadian professional hockey teams that may play 82 games a year, the F1 oddity is that European F1 circuits are falling off.

    The FIA and team owners are happy to put on a show in locations on the planet that cannot boast a century of motor racing activity, (Qatar, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia,) or even a minimal tradition of car ownership among the denizens (Turkey, Azerbaijan). "Goodbye, Spa Francochamps: who the hell in BELGIUM owns or races a car?"
    If they're going to put on that many races, they should at least allow teams to use as many power units as required, no more grid-place penalties.
    Not sure if they already adjusted the sporting regs to allow for this or if they plan to ...
    Dan
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  • From fnot@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Jun 21 01:59:03 2022
    On 2022-06-18 12:39, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet that the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value. Senior figures have expressed concern that it is hard to sell a grand prix as 'special' when they come thick and fast." (Guardian excerpt Saturday 18 June)

    While not as busy as Canadian professional hockey teams that may play 82 games a year, the F1 oddity is that European F1 circuits are falling off.

    The FIA and team owners are happy to put on a show in locations on the planet that cannot boast a century of motor racing activity, (Qatar, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia,) or even a minimal tradition of car ownership among the denizens (Turkey, Azerbaijan). "Goodbye, Spa Francochamps: who the hell in BELGIUM owns or races a car?"
    Follow the money ?
    Commodity countries rule.
    Traditional sport is long gone.
    Ferrari on the podium for starters.
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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Jun 21 15:29:18 2022
    On 6/21/2022 1:59 AM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-18 12:39, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023,-a "There has also been disquiet that
    the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value. Senior
    figures have expressed concern that it is hard to sell a grand prix as
    'special' when they come thick and fast."-a (Guardian excerpt Saturday
    18 June)

    While not as busy as Canadian professional hockey teams that may play
    82 games a year, the F1 oddity is that European F1 circuits are
    falling off.

    The FIA and team owners are happy to put on a show in locations on the
    planet that cannot boast a century of motor racing activity, (Qatar,
    Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia,) or even a minimal tradition of car ownership
    among the denizens (Turkey, Azerbaijan).-a "Goodbye, Spa Francochamps:
    who the hell in BELGIUM owns or races a car?"
    Follow the money ?
    Commodity countries rule.
    Traditional sport is long gone.
    Ferrari on the podium for starters.


    Bitcoin GP

    NFT Series
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  • From bra@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Jun 21 16:39:57 2022
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet that the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim Clark proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races during the year.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Jun 21 16:50:01 2022
    On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 5:40:00 PM UTC-6, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet that the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value.
    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim Clark proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races during the year.

    Yup. And you walked 2 miles to school.
    Uphill, there and back.
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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 22 12:25:46 2022
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet that the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim Clark proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always maintained that 12 - 16 races per
    year is the ideal number. That makes sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to them more.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

    This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Jun 21 18:12:17 2022
    On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 6:25:50 PM UTC-6, ~misfit~ wrote:

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always maintained that 12 - 16 races per
    year is the ideal number. That makes sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to them more.

    Yup. And you walked 2 miles to school.
    Uphill, there and back.
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  • From Phil Carmody@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Jun 28 17:31:34 2022
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet that
    the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim Clark
    proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races
    during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always
    maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal number. That makes
    sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on average
    every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for a mid-season
    break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than that and it becomes
    a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all of the races are even
    worth having on the calendar in the first place even in sparser
    times.

    Phil
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  • From fnot@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Jun 28 23:53:12 2022
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet that
    the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim Clark
    proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races
    during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always
    maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal number. That makes
    sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on average
    every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for a mid-season
    break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than that and it becomes
    a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all of the races are even
    worth having on the calendar in the first place even in sparser
    times.

    Phil

    From what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.
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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 10:36:47 2022
    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet that
    the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim Clark
    proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races
    during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always
    maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal number. That makes
    sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on average
    every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for a mid-season
    break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than that and it becomes
    a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all of the races are even
    worth having on the calendar in the first place even in sparser
    times.

    Phil

    From what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.
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  • From Mark Jackson@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 11:45:25 2022
    On 6/29/2022 10:36 AM, News wrote:
    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:

    From what I've seen this season the races are well attended. Any
    business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    Profitable to the organizers is irrelevant when government subsidies are
    in play. The only "profitable" that matters is whether it shows up on
    F1's books.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    It's not a lie if they don't believe you.
    - Willy (Joe Martin)
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 08:52:05 2022
    On 2022-06-29 07:36, News wrote:
    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet that >>>>>> the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim Clark
    proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races
    during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always
    maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal number. That makes >>>> sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on average
    every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for a mid-season
    break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than that and it becomes
    a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all of the races are even
    worth having on the calendar in the first place even in sparser
    times.

    Phil

    -aFrom what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    Were you high when you wrote that?
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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 12:07:59 2022
    On 6/29/2022 11:52 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-06-29 07:36, News wrote:
    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet that >>>>>>> the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim Clark >>>>>> proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races
    during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always
    maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal number. That makes >>>>> sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on average
    every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for a mid-season
    break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than that and it becomes
    a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all of the races are even
    worth having on the calendar in the first place even in sparser
    times.

    Phil

    -aFrom what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    Were you high when you wrote that?


    Reading is fundamental, as is reading comprehension, as is critical
    thinking, dullard.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 09:09:39 2022
    On 2022-06-29 09:07, News wrote:
    On 6/29/2022 11:52 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-06-29 07:36, News wrote:
    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet that >>>>>>>> the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim Clark >>>>>>> proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races
    during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always
    maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal number. That
    makes
    sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on average
    every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for a mid-season
    break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than that and it becomes
    a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all of the races are even
    worth having on the calendar in the first place even in sparser
    times.

    Phil

    -aFrom what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    Were you high when you wrote that?


    Reading is fundamental, as is reading comprehension, as is critical thinking, dullard.

    Really?

    So explain what you THINK I missed.

    :-)
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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 13:31:42 2022
    On 6/29/2022 12:09 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-06-29 09:07, News wrote:
    On 6/29/2022 11:52 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-06-29 07:36, News wrote:
    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet >>>>>>>>> that
    the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value. >>>>>>>>
    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim Clark >>>>>>>> proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races >>>>>>>> during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always
    maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal number. That >>>>>>> makes
    sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on average
    every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for a mid-season >>>>>> break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than that and it becomes >>>>>> a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all of the races are even
    worth having on the calendar in the first place even in sparser
    times.

    Phil

    -aFrom what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    Were you high when you wrote that?


    Reading is fundamental, as is reading comprehension, as is critical
    thinking, dullard.

    Really?

    So explain what you THINK I missed.

    :-)


    Figure it out, ignoramus.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 10:39:19 2022
    On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:52:07 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Were you high when you wrote that?

    you numb cunt
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 10:40:04 2022
    On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 10:09:42 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Really?

    So explain what you THINK I missed.

    fuck off you piece of shit
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 11:29:09 2022
    On 2022-06-29 10:31, News wrote:
    On 6/29/2022 12:09 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-06-29 09:07, News wrote:
    On 6/29/2022 11:52 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-06-29 07:36, News wrote:
    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been disquiet >>>>>>>>>> that
    the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value. >>>>>>>>>
    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim Clark >>>>>>>>> proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races >>>>>>>>> during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always >>>>>>>> maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal number. That >>>>>>>> makes
    sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to them more. >>>>>>>
    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on average >>>>>>> every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for a mid-season >>>>>>> break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than that and it becomes >>>>>>> a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all of the races are even
    worth having on the calendar in the first place even in sparser
    times.

    Phil

    -aFrom what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    Were you high when you wrote that?


    Reading is fundamental, as is reading comprehension, as is critical
    thinking, dullard.

    Really?

    So explain what you THINK I missed.

    :-)


    Figure it out, ignoramus.



    So you can't articulate it.

    Got it.

    :-)
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 11:32:49 2022
    On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 12:29:12 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Got it.

    you aint got fuck all.
    except a pathetic existence.
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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 14:46:31 2022
    On 6/29/2022 2:29 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-06-29 10:31, News wrote:
    On 6/29/2022 12:09 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-06-29 09:07, News wrote:
    On 6/29/2022 11:52 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-06-29 07:36, News wrote:
    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been
    disquiet that
    the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value. >>>>>>>>>>
    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim >>>>>>>>>> Clark
    proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races >>>>>>>>>> during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always >>>>>>>>> maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal number. >>>>>>>>> That makes
    sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to them more. >>>>>>>>
    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on average >>>>>>>> every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for a mid-season >>>>>>>> break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than that and it becomes >>>>>>>> a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all of the races are even >>>>>>>> worth having on the calendar in the first place even in sparser >>>>>>>> times.

    Phil

    -aFrom what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    Were you high when you wrote that?


    Reading is fundamental, as is reading comprehension, as is critical
    thinking, dullard.

    Really?

    So explain what you THINK I missed.

    :-)


    Figure it out, ignoramus.



    So you can't articulate it.

    Got it.

    :-)


    Keep groveling, canucklehead.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 12:05:18 2022
    On 2022-06-29 11:46, News wrote:
    On 6/29/2022 2:29 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-06-29 10:31, News wrote:
    On 6/29/2022 12:09 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-06-29 09:07, News wrote:
    On 6/29/2022 11:52 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-06-29 07:36, News wrote:
    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been >>>>>>>>>>>> disquiet that
    the sheer volume of races was diluting their impact and value. >>>>>>>>>>>
    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim >>>>>>>>>>> Clark
    proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting ten races >>>>>>>>>>> during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always >>>>>>>>>> maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal number. >>>>>>>>>> That makes
    sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to them more. >>>>>>>>>
    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on average >>>>>>>>> every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for a mid-season >>>>>>>>> break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than that and it becomes >>>>>>>>> a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all of the races are even >>>>>>>>> worth having on the calendar in the first place even in sparser >>>>>>>>> times.

    Phil

    -aFrom what I've seen this season the races are well attended. >>>>>>>> Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    Were you high when you wrote that?


    Reading is fundamental, as is reading comprehension, as is critical >>>>> thinking, dullard.

    Really?

    So explain what you THINK I missed.

    :-)


    Figure it out, ignoramus.



    So you can't articulate it.

    Got it.

    :-)


    Keep groveling, canucklehead.

    I'm not groveling by pointing out your failure.

    :-)
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 12:11:04 2022
    On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 1:05:20 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    I'm not groveling by pointing out your failure.

    give it a rest troll
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 12:14:32 2022
    On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 1:05:20 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    I'm not groveling by pointing out your failure.

    the british gp pool is ready asswipe.
    you were crying about that.
    make your picks.
    or are you waiting for the results of FP1 again?
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 12:22:32 2022
    On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 1:05:20 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    I'm not groveling by pointing out your failure.

    fuck off back to rec.sport.golf
    and continue to make a fool of yourself there.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 29 14:20:32 2022
    On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 1:05:20 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    I'm not groveling by pointing out your failure.

    one day left in homo month.
    get back out there fuckwad.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Jun 30 09:12:40 2022
    News wrote:

    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been
    disquiet that the sheer volume of races was diluting their
    impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim
    Clark proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting
    ten races during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal number.
    That makes sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to
    them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on average
    every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for a mid-season
    break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than that and it becomes
    a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all of the races are even
    worth having on the calendar in the first place even in sparser
    times.

    Phil

    From what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    It equates to larger "race sanctioning" fees; F1's second biggest
    revenue stream after TV rights.

    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker
    Texasgate
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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Jun 30 10:53:15 2022
    On 6/30/2022 5:12 AM, Bigbird wrote:
    News wrote:

    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been
    disquiet that the sheer volume of races was diluting their
    impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that Jim
    Clark proved himself to be a world champion, by contesting
    ten races during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've always
    maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal number.
    That makes sure every race is an occasion and I look forward to
    them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on average
    every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for a mid-season
    break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than that and it becomes
    a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all of the races are even
    worth having on the calendar in the first place even in sparser
    times.

    Phil

    From what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    It equates to larger "race sanctioning" fees; F1's second biggest
    revenue stream after TV rights.


    And 'profitable' for whom? For how long will the subsidies last?"
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Jun 30 15:38:26 2022
    News wrote:

    On 6/30/2022 5:12 AM, Bigbird wrote:
    News wrote:

    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been
    disquiet that the sheer volume of races was diluting
    their impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that
    Jim Clark proved himself to be a world champion, by
    contesting ten races during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've
    always maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal
    number. That makes sure every race is an occasion and I
    look forward to them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on
    average every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for
    a mid-season break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than
    that and it becomes a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all
    of the races are even worth having on the calendar in the
    first place even in sparser times.

    Phil

    From what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    It equates to larger "race sanctioning" fees; F1's second biggest
    revenue stream after TV rights.


    And 'profitable' for whom? For how long will the subsidies last?"

    Do you ever feel like you've lost the thread?

    You should.

    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker
    Texasgate
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Jun 30 11:39:31 2022
    On 6/30/2022 11:38 AM, Bigbird wrote:
    News wrote:

    On 6/30/2022 5:12 AM, Bigbird wrote:
    News wrote:

    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also been
    disquiet that the sheer volume of races was diluting
    their impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied that
    Jim Clark proved himself to be a world champion, by
    contesting ten races during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've
    always maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the ideal
    number. That makes sure every race is an occasion and I
    look forward to them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on
    average every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer for
    a mid-season break. So 20/year works for me. Much more than
    that and it becomes a bit "stuffed". In particular as not all
    of the races are even worth having on the calendar in the
    first place even in sparser times.

    Phil

    From what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    It equates to larger "race sanctioning" fees; F1's second biggest
    revenue stream after TV rights.


    And 'profitable' for whom? For how long will the subsidies last?"

    Do you ever feel like you've lost the thread?

    You should.


    No more than you feel clueless from the start to the end.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Jun 30 21:22:33 2022
    News wrote:

    On 6/30/2022 11:38 AM, Bigbird wrote:
    News wrote:

    On 6/30/2022 5:12 AM, Bigbird wrote:
    News wrote:

    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra
    wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also
    been disquiet that the sheer volume of races was
    diluting their impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied
    that Jim Clark proved himself to be a world champion,
    by contesting ten races during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've
    always maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the
    ideal number. That makes sure every race is an
    occasion and I look forward to them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on
    average every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer
    for a mid-season break. So 20/year works for me. Much
    more than that and it becomes a bit "stuffed". In
    particular as not all of the races are even worth having
    on the calendar in the first place even in sparser times.

    Phil

    From what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    It equates to larger "race sanctioning" fees; F1's second
    biggest revenue stream after TV rights.


    And 'profitable' for whom? For how long will the subsidies last?"

    Do you ever feel like you've lost the thread?

    You should.


    No more than you feel clueless from the start to the end.

    All the evidence is that you are completely out of your depth; having
    nothing intelligent or relevant to contribute.

    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker
    Texasgate
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Jun 30 14:33:46 2022
    On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 3:22:35 PM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

    All the evidence is that you are completely out of your depth; having nothing intelligent or relevant to contribute.

    lol. take a look at bigturds perfomance at rec.sport.golf
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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Jul 1 11:50:04 2022
    On 6/30/2022 5:22 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    News wrote:

    On 6/30/2022 11:38 AM, Bigbird wrote:
    News wrote:

    On 6/30/2022 5:12 AM, Bigbird wrote:
    News wrote:

    On 6/28/2022 11:53 PM, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-06-28 10:31, Phil Carmody wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 22/06/2022 11:39 am, bra wrote:
    On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 9:39:25 AM UTC-7, bra
    wrote:
    With 25 races proposed for 2023, "There has also
    been disquiet that the sheer volume of races was
    diluting their impact and value.

    As I recall, the world of motor sport was satisfied
    that Jim Clark proved himself to be a world champion,
    by contesting ten races during the year.

    For me the whole F1 'buzz' has been diluted lately. I've
    always maintained that 12 - 16 races per year is the
    ideal number. That makes sure every race is an
    occasion and I look forward to them more.

    Let's take 10 weeks off between seasons, and have them on
    average every 2 weeks. (52-10)/2 = 21. Drop one in summer
    for a mid-season break. So 20/year works for me. Much
    more than that and it becomes a bit "stuffed". In
    particular as not all of the races are even worth having
    on the calendar in the first place even in sparser times.

    Phil

    From what I've seen this season the races are well attended.
    Any business model will tell you to expand in this climate.


    'Well attended' and profitable rarely equate.

    It equates to larger "race sanctioning" fees; F1's second
    biggest revenue stream after TV rights.


    And 'profitable' for whom? For how long will the subsidies last?"

    Do you ever feel like you've lost the thread?

    You should.


    No more than you feel clueless from the start to the end.

    All the evidence is that you are completely out of your depth; having
    nothing intelligent or relevant to contribute.


    All the evidence points to your advanced case of Dunning-Kruger.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Jul 2 13:22:04 2022
    News wrote:

    On 6/30/2022 5:22 PM, Bigbird wrote:

    All the evidence is that you are completely out of your depth;
    having nothing intelligent or relevant to contribute.


    ^^^^^^^


    All the evidence points to your advanced case of Dunning-Kruger.

    QED

    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker
    Texasgate
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Jul 2 07:17:11 2022
    On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 7:22:06 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

    QED

    fuck off clown act.
    fuck off back to rec.sport.golf.
    and continue to make a fool of yourself there.
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