• Ver crossing the line or not?

    From Edmund@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 1 17:11:05 2022
    Ver crossing the line or not?

    To me it looks like he did.
    If it is so important to know, why don't have that multi billion organization no camera's on it?


    Edmund


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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 1 11:18:51 2022
    On 6/1/2022 11:11 AM, Edmund wrote:
    Ver crossing the line or not?

    To me it looks like he did.
    If it is so important to know, why don't have that multi billion organization
    no camera's on it?


    Edmund




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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 1 20:29:34 2022
    Edmund wrote:

    Ver crossing the line or not?

    To me it looks like he did.
    If it is so important to know, why don't have that multi billion
    organization no camera's on it?


    Needs to be the whole trye; it wasn't.

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  • From Mark Jackson@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 1 16:44:47 2022
    On 6/1/2022 4:29 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    Edmund wrote:

    Ver crossing the line or not?

    To me it looks like he did.
    If it is so important to know, why don't have that multi billion
    organization no camera's on it?


    Needs to be the whole trye; it wasn't.

    The actual positions of the front and rear tires breached last years International Sporting Code, which was still reflected in the Race
    Director's Notes for the event (cut-and-paste from last year). However
    they did not breach the current ISC, so the protest was rejected. See
    the official document:

    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2022%20Monaco%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Decision%20-%20Protest%20lodged%20against%20Car%201.pdf

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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Jun 1 20:58:19 2022
    Mark Jackson wrote:

    On 6/1/2022 4:29 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    Edmund wrote:

    Ver crossing the line or not?

    To me it looks like he did.
    If it is so important to know, why don't have that multi billion organization no camera's on it?


    Needs to be the whole trye; it wasn't.

    The actual positions of the front and rear tires breached last years International Sporting Code, which was still reflected in the Race
    Director's Notes for the event (cut-and-paste from last year).
    However they did not breach the current ISC, so the protest was
    rejected. See the official document:


    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2022%20Monaco%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Decision%20-%20Protest%20lodged%20against%20Car%201.pdf

    That's what I said :-)

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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Jun 2 10:50:09 2022
    On 6/1/2022 4:58 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    Mark Jackson wrote:

    On 6/1/2022 4:29 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    Edmund wrote:

    Ver crossing the line or not?

    To me it looks like he did.
    If it is so important to know, why don't have that multi billion
    organization no camera's on it?


    Needs to be the whole trye; it wasn't.

    The actual positions of the front and rear tires breached last years
    International Sporting Code, which was still reflected in the Race
    Director's Notes for the event (cut-and-paste from last year).
    However they did not breach the current ISC, so the protest was
    rejected. See the official document:


    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2022%20Monaco%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Decision%20-%20Protest%20lodged%20against%20Car%201.pdf

    That's what I said :-)


    Got no traction, as originally stated.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Jun 2 19:15:57 2022
    News wrote:

    On 6/1/2022 4:58 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    Mark Jackson wrote:

    On 6/1/2022 4:29 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    Edmund wrote:

    Ver crossing the line or not?

    To me it looks like he did.
    If it is so important to know, why don't have that multi
    billion organization no camera's on it?


    Needs to be the whole trye; it wasn't.

    The actual positions of the front and rear tires breached last
    years International Sporting Code, which was still reflected in
    the Race Director's Notes for the event (cut-and-paste from last
    year). However they did not breach the current ISC, so the
    protest was rejected. See the official document:



    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2022%20Monaco%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Decision%20-%20Protest%20lodged%20against%20Car%201.pdf

    That's what I said :-)


    Got no traction, as originally stated.

    You're confused. I suggest you read fully before you respond.

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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Jun 2 15:23:22 2022
    On 6/2/2022 3:15 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    News wrote:

    On 6/1/2022 4:58 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    Mark Jackson wrote:

    On 6/1/2022 4:29 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    Edmund wrote:

    Ver crossing the line or not?

    To me it looks like he did.
    If it is so important to know, why don't have that multi
    billion organization no camera's on it?


    Needs to be the whole trye; it wasn't.

    The actual positions of the front and rear tires breached last
    years International Sporting Code, which was still reflected in
    the Race Director's Notes for the event (cut-and-paste from last
    year). However they did not breach the current ISC, so the
    protest was rejected. See the official document:



    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2022%20Monaco%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Decision%20-%20Protest%20lodged%20against%20Car%201.pdf

    That's what I said :-)


    Got no traction, as originally stated.

    You're confused. I suggest you read fully before you respond.


    On 6/1/2022 11:11 AM, Edmund wrote:
    Ver crossing the line or not?

    To me it looks like he did.
    If it is so important to know, why don't have that multi billion organization
    no camera's on it?


    Edmund



    Issue was raised, timely, and never got traction.
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  • From Phil Carmody@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Jun 7 16:54:19 2022
    Mark Jackson <mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
    On 6/1/2022 4:29 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    Edmund wrote:

    Ver crossing the line or not?

    To me it looks like he did.
    If it is so important to know, why don't have that multi billion
    organization no camera's on it?


    Needs to be the whole trye; it wasn't.

    The actual positions of the front and rear tires breached last years International Sporting Code, which was still reflected in the Race
    Director's Notes for the event (cut-and-paste from last year).
    However they did not breach the current ISC, so the protest was
    rejected. See the official document:

    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2022%20Monaco%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Decision%20-%20Protest%20lodged%20against%20Car%201.pdf

    So their official documents were contradictory. Insert face-palm emoji
    here.

    Sometimes I get the impression that the FIA couldn't organise a fuck-up
    in a brothel.

    One question that remains is why there was a need to change that rule in
    the ISC? What was so wrong with it that needed to be changed? Who
    proposed the change, with what justification, and who signed off on it?
    Are they trying to force teams to employ more bookworms and fewer
    engineers? Is the aim now the pinacle of language-lawyering rather than
    the pinacle of motorsport?

    Anyway, looking forward to more jolly hijinx from the ghost of Masi
    later in the season. Can we have comic sound effects next time please.

    Booioioioioing!
    Phil
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Jun 7 10:24:18 2022
    On 2022-06-07 6:54 a.m., Phil Carmody wrote:
    Mark Jackson <mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
    On 6/1/2022 4:29 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    Edmund wrote:

    Ver crossing the line or not?

    To me it looks like he did.
    If it is so important to know, why don't have that multi billion
    organization no camera's on it?


    Needs to be the whole trye; it wasn't.

    The actual positions of the front and rear tires breached last years
    International Sporting Code, which was still reflected in the Race
    Director's Notes for the event (cut-and-paste from last year).
    However they did not breach the current ISC, so the protest was
    rejected. See the official document:

    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2022%20Monaco%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Decision%20-%20Protest%20lodged%20against%20Car%201.pdf

    So their official documents were contradictory. Insert face-palm emoji
    here.

    Sometimes I get the impression that the FIA couldn't organise a fuck-up
    in a brothel.

    One question that remains is why there was a need to change that rule in
    the ISC? What was so wrong with it that needed to be changed? Who
    proposed the change, with what justification, and who signed off on it?
    Are they trying to force teams to employ more bookworms and fewer
    engineers? Is the aim now the pinacle of language-lawyering rather than
    the pinacle of motorsport?

    Anyway, looking forward to more jolly hijinx from the ghost of Masi
    later in the season. Can we have comic sound effects next time please.

    Booioioioioing!
    Phil

    To some of us, the incompetence and corruption of the FIA (and other
    similar organizations) is completely unsurprising.

    What's amusing is that there are those who point to actions of the FIA
    from time to time...

    ...AS IF THEY WERE COMPETENT.

    :-)
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Jun 7 10:49:15 2022
    On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 11:24:21 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    To some of us, the incompetence and corruption of the FIA (and other
    similar organizations) is completely unsurprising.

    What's amusing is that there are those who point to actions of the FIA
    from time to time...

    ...AS IF THEY WERE COMPETENT.

    fuck off buffoon
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