• Toto on the whinge again

    From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Apr 17 14:38:02 2022
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Apr 18 15:56:58 2022
    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers


    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
    had made errors.

    geoff
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Apr 17 21:14:50 2022
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 9:57:18 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
    had made errors.

    you recently said alan had an erection for masi.
    you numb cunt
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Apr 17 21:18:47 2022
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 9:57:18 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

    I thought

    your biggest downfall
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Apr 18 09:47:02 2022
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
    ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
    had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Like the OP's post is anything but his usual whinge about Hamilton and
    his team; a questionable obsession.

    --
    Bozo bin
    Michael P. (transgender nymshifter)
    Felicity (transgender nymshifter)
    George R (transgender nymshifter)
    Irving S (transgender nymshifter)
    Texasgate
    Enjoy!
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Apr 18 23:21:01 2022
    On 18/04/2022 4:14 pm, texas gate wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 9:57:18 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
    had made errors.

    you recently said alan had an erection for masi.
    you numb cunt

    And ?

    geoff
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Apr 18 18:13:15 2022
    On 2022-04-17 8:56 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers


    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi

    Where did you get that idea?
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Apr 18 18:13:50 2022
    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
    ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
    had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 09:35:14 2022
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the
    plot.


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-
    driv ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that
    Massi had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    What is that distant spec in my rear view mirror... Oh, it's Alan and
    his defence of Masi's incompetence.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Dan the Man@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 05:53:24 2022
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers
    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.

    Dan
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 07:45:45 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 7:13:52 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    speaking of odd
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 07:46:37 2022
    On 2022-04-19 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the
    plot.


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-
    driv ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that
    Massi had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    What is that distant spec in my rear view mirror... Oh, it's Alan and
    his defence of Masi's incompetence.

    Failure to answer the the point noted.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 07:55:17 2022
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:46:39 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Failure to answer the the point noted.

    he told you to fuck off.
    note that, stupid.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From leonard hofstatder@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 10:10:46 2022
    On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers
    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.

    Dan


    Serious inquiry?

    Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black ?

    They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to the
    glory days of Ferrari and MS.

    They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or hate.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 19:01:35 2022
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-19 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
    the plot.


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespec
    ted- driv ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed
    that Massi had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    What is that distant spec in my rear view mirror... Oh, it's Alan
    and his defence of Masi's incompetence.

    Failure to answer the the point noted.

    If you had even a little intelligence you might infer that what I was
    getting at is that the question has been asked and answered already.

    Your childish intransigence is not a strength it's a denial of the
    facts.

    If you wish to relive lost arguments re-read your old threads.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 19:03:30 2022
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers
    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his
    absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.


    That's called a non-sequitur.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 12:28:37 2022
    On 2022-04-19 12:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-19 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
    the plot.


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespec
    ted- driv ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed
    that Massi had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    What is that distant spec in my rear view mirror... Oh, it's Alan
    and his defence of Masi's incompetence.

    Failure to answer the the point noted.

    If you had even a little intelligence you might infer that what I was
    getting at is that the question has been asked and answered already.

    No. It really hasn't.

    If the FIA really thought that Masi was so incompetent...

    ...why is he still in their employ?
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 12:50:42 2022
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 1:28:39 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    If the FIA really thought that Masi was so incompetent...

    speaking of incompetent
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 09:20:51 2022
    On 20/04/2022 7:28 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-19 12:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-19 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
    the plot.


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespec
    ted- driv ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed
    that Massi had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    What is that distant spec in my rear view mirror... Oh, it's Alan
    and his defence of Masi's incompetence.

    Failure to answer the the point noted.

    If you had even a little intelligence you might infer that what I was
    getting at is that the question has been asked and answered already.

    No. It really hasn't.

    If the FIA really thought that Masi was so incompetent...

    ...why is he still in their employ?


    Same as when your auto-club realise that you are shit-useless and a
    liability driving on the track, they might give you a job mopping out
    the toilets.

    geoff
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 14:27:12 2022
    On 2022-04-19 2:20 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 20/04/2022 7:28 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-19 12:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-19 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
    the plot.


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespec >>>>>>>>> ted- driv ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed
    that Massi had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    What is that distant spec in my rear view mirror... Oh, it's Alan
    and his defence of Masi's incompetence.

    Failure to answer the the point noted.

    If you had even a little intelligence you might infer that what I was
    getting at is that the question has been asked and answered already.

    No. It really hasn't.

    If the FIA really thought that Masi was so incompetent...

    ...why is he still in their employ?


    Same as when your auto-club realise that you are shit-useless and a liability driving on the track, they might give you a job mopping out
    the toilets.

    When you have no answer, attempt an absurd insult.

    FYI: I'm not only a class champion, but the other class champions and
    best drivers in our club nominated me to be an instructor after only my
    third year of racing.

    That was back in 2016.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 14:36:40 2022
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 3:27:17 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    FYI: I'm not only a class champion, but
    a world class moron.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 15:36:02 2022
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 3:27:17 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    FYI: I'm not only a class champion, but the other class champions and
    best drivers in our club nominated me to be an instructor after only my third year of racing.

    That was back in 2016.

    What year did dementia set in?
    Because you keep repeating the above.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 11:40:22 2022
    On 20/04/2022 9:27 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-19 2:20 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 20/04/2022 7:28 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-19 12:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-19 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
    the plot.


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespec >>>>>>>>>> ted- driv ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed
    that Massi had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    What is that distant spec in my rear view mirror... Oh, it's Alan
    and his defence of Masi's incompetence.

    Failure to answer the the point noted.

    If you had even a little intelligence you might infer that what I was
    getting at is that the question has been asked and answered already.

    No. It really hasn't.

    If the FIA really thought that Masi was so incompetent...

    ...why is he still in their employ?


    Same as when your auto-club realise that you are shit-useless and a
    liability driving on the track, they might give you a job mopping out
    the toilets.

    When you have no answer, attempt an absurd insult.

    FYI: I'm not only a class champion, but the other class champions and
    best drivers in our club nominated me to be an instructor after only my third year of racing.

    That was back in 2016.

    Ha ha. You had to think referring specifically about you, eh. Not
    everything is actually about you. In fact nobody here could give a toss.

    Referring to reassigning somebody proved incompetent in a particular
    role, to another more suited to their skills (or where less harm can be
    done). An impossible scenario by your 'logic' it seems ...

    geoff
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 19:13:03 2022
    On 2022-04-19 4:40 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 20/04/2022 9:27 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-19 2:20 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 20/04/2022 7:28 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-19 12:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-19 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost >>>>>>>>>>> the plot.


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>>>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespec >>>>>>>>>>> ted- driv ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed >>>>>>>>>> that Massi had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    What is that distant spec in my rear view mirror... Oh, it's Alan >>>>>>> and his defence of Masi's incompetence.

    Failure to answer the the point noted.

    If you had even a little intelligence you might infer that what I was >>>>> getting at is that the question has been asked and answered already.

    No. It really hasn't.

    If the FIA really thought that Masi was so incompetent...

    ...why is he still in their employ?


    Same as when your auto-club realise that you are shit-useless and a
    liability driving on the track, they might give you a job mopping out
    the toilets.

    When you have no answer, attempt an absurd insult.

    FYI: I'm not only a class champion, but the other class champions and
    best drivers in our club nominated me to be an instructor after only
    my third year of racing.

    That was back in 2016.

    Ha ha. You-a had to think referring specifically about you, eh. Not everything is actually about you. In fact nobody here could give a toss.

    Really?

    You reply to a post by me with "your auto-club" and "you a job"...

    ...and now you're trying to pretend you didn't mean me?


    Referring to reassigning somebody proved incompetent in a particular
    role, to another more suited to their skills (or where less harm can be done). An impossible scenario by your 'logic' it seems ...

    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 20:31:39 2022
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:13:08 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Really?

    You reply to a post by me with "your auto-club" and "you a job"...

    ...and now you're trying to pretend you didn't mean me?

    Fuck off, you loser, piece of shit, cock sucking, idiot.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 20:38:27 2022
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:13:08 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Really?

    Ya, fucking really.
    You numb cunt.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Apr 19 21:42:36 2022
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 3:27:17 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    FYI: I'm not only a class champion, but the other class champions and
    best drivers in our club nominated me to be an instructor after only my third year of racing.

    says a lot about your club
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 17:29:44 2022
    On 20/04/2022 2:13 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-19 4:40 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 20/04/2022 9:27 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-19 2:20 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 20/04/2022 7:28 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-19 12:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-19 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost >>>>>>>>>>>> the plot.


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>>>>>
    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespec >>>>>>>>>>>> ted- driv ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed >>>>>>>>>>> that Massi had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    What is that distant spec in my rear view mirror... Oh, it's Alan >>>>>>>> and his defence of Masi's incompetence.

    Failure to answer the the point noted.

    If you had even a little intelligence you might infer that what I was >>>>>> getting at is that the question has been asked and answered already. >>>>>
    No. It really hasn't.

    If the FIA really thought that Masi was so incompetent...

    ...why is he still in their employ?


    Same as when your auto-club realise that you are shit-useless and a
    liability driving on the track, they might give you a job mopping
    out the toilets.

    When you have no answer, attempt an absurd insult.

    FYI: I'm not only a class champion, but the other class champions and
    best drivers in our club nominated me to be an instructor after only
    my third year of racing.

    That was back in 2016.

    Ha ha. You-a had to think referring specifically about you, eh. Not
    everything is actually about you. In fact nobody here could give a toss.

    Really?

    You reply to a post by me with "your auto-club" and "you a job"...

    ...and now you're trying to pretend you didn't mean me?


    Referring to reassigning somebody proved incompetent in a particular
    role, to another more suited to their skills (or where less harm can
    be done). An impossible scenario by your 'logic' it seems ...




    Only to get the predictable response from you. It's so easy.

    But whatever you do, don't address the logic.

    geoff
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 00:20:11 2022
    On 2022-04-19 10:29 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 20/04/2022 2:13 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-19 4:40 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 20/04/2022 9:27 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-19 2:20 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 20/04/2022 7:28 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-19 12:01 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-19 2:35 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost >>>>>>>>>>>>> the plot.


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>>>>>>
    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespec >>>>>>>>>>>>> ted- driv ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed >>>>>>>>>>>> that Massi had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    What is that distant spec in my rear view mirror... Oh, it's Alan >>>>>>>>> and his defence of Masi's incompetence.

    Failure to answer the the point noted.

    If you had even a little intelligence you might infer that what I >>>>>>> was
    getting at is that the question has been asked and answered already. >>>>>>
    No. It really hasn't.

    If the FIA really thought that Masi was so incompetent...

    ...why is he still in their employ?


    Same as when your auto-club realise that you are shit-useless and a >>>>> liability driving on the track, they might give you a job mopping
    out the toilets.

    When you have no answer, attempt an absurd insult.

    FYI: I'm not only a class champion, but the other class champions
    and best drivers in our club nominated me to be an instructor after
    only my third year of racing.

    That was back in 2016.

    Ha ha. You-a had to think referring specifically about you, eh. Not
    everything is actually about you. In fact nobody here could give a toss.

    Really?

    You reply to a post by me with "your auto-club" and "you a job"...

    ...and now you're trying to pretend you didn't mean me?


    Referring to reassigning somebody proved incompetent in a particular
    role, to another more suited to their skills (or where less harm can
    be done). An impossible scenario by your 'logic' it seems ...




    Only to get the predictable response from you. It's so easy.

    But whatever you do, don't address the logic.

    You presented no logic.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Martin Harran@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 12:03:11 2022
    On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:13:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
    ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
    had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    Have you come up for an alternate word for"sacked" yet?
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Dan the Man@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 06:26:18 2022
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers
    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.

    Dan
    Serious inquiry?

    Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black ?

    They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to the
    glory days of Ferrari and MS.

    They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or hate.
    Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but I'll try to answer.
    1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a fair amount of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate anyone for their skin color.
    2) Yes, Merc has been the boss machine in F1 for a long while; I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his brilliant technical mind might be holding them back.
    3) And yes, their accomplishments are certainly comparable to Scuderia and Schumacher. No argument there.

    Dan
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 09:56:08 2022
    On 2022-04-20 4:03 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:13:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv >>>>> ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
    had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    Have you come up for an alternate word for"sacked" yet?


    Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
    the employ of someone being called "sacked"?
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 10:26:30 2022
    On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:56:11 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
    the employ of someone being called "sacked"?

    get a life
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Martin Harran@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 18:31:59 2022
    On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 09:56:08 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-04-20 4:03 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:13:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot. >>>>>>
    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv >>>>>> ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi >>>>> had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    Have you come up for an alternate word for"sacked" yet?


    Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
    the employ of someone being called "sacked"?


    So you haven't found an alternate word.

    And yes, in a 30 year career as management consultant, I knew plenty
    of managers incompetent in a position who were pushed sideways or
    downways to a position where they were perfectly competent and on a
    number of occasions I was the one who instigated the change. FWIW, the
    vast majority of managers in that situation were very relieved to move
    into a role where they felt in control.

    You might find it useful to read up on the Peter Principle https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/peter-principle.asp
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 10:36:12 2022
    On 2022-04-20 10:31 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 09:56:08 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-04-20 4:03 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:13:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot. >>>>>>>
    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv >>>>>>> ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi >>>>>> had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    Have you come up for an alternate word for"sacked" yet?


    Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
    the employ of someone being called "sacked"?


    So you haven't found an alternate word.

    I don't need one.


    And yes, in a 30 year career as management consultant, I knew plenty
    of managers incompetent in a position who were pushed sideways or
    downways to a position where they were perfectly competent and on a
    number of occasions I was the one who instigated the change. FWIW, the
    vast majority of managers in that situation were very relieved to move
    into a role where they felt in control.


    Failure to actually answer the question asked is noted.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 12:32:23 2022
    On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Failure to actually answer the question asked is noted.

    get a life
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Apr 21 09:20:08 2022
    On 21/04/2022 4:56 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-20 4:03 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:13:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot. >>>>>>
    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv >>>>>> ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi >>>>> had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    Have you come up for an alternate word for"sacked" yet?


    Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
    the employ of someone being called "sacked"?

    'Sacked' is the word you appear adamant to used exclusively for the
    situation. Reassigned better ?

    But even with 'sacked', it can apply to from a whole
    company/organisation, or just to a particular position within that company.

    .... yet another straightforward concept that you appear to have trouble comprehending.

    geoff
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Apr 21 09:22:18 2022
    On 21/04/2022 5:26 am, texas gate wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:56:11 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
    the employ of someone being called "sacked"?

    get a life

    He has. It appears to primarily consist of quibbling on USENET.

    geoff
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 15:15:08 2022
    On 2022-04-20 2:20 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 21/04/2022 4:56 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-20 4:03 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:13:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-04-18 2:47 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    geoff wrote:

    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot. >>>>>>>
    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv >>>>>>> ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi >>>>>> had made errors.


    ...and the FIA.

    Odd, then, that the FIA has kept him in their employee...

    ...don't you think?

    Have you come up for an alternate word for"sacked" yet?


    Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
    the employ of someone being called "sacked"?

    'Sacked' is the word you appear adamant to used exclusively for the situation. Reassigned better ?

    I'm not adamant about it at all.

    Lots of others here were depending on it as proof (or at least support)
    of Masi's supposed "incompetence".


    But even with 'sacked', it can apply to from a whole
    company/organisation, or just to a particular position within that company.

    .... yet another straightforward concept that you appear to have trouble comprehending.

    So everyone keeps saying...

    ..but never actually supporting.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 15:17:13 2022
    On 2022-04-20 2:22 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 21/04/2022 5:26 am, texas gate wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:56:11 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in
    the employ of someone being called "sacked"?

    get a life

    He has. It appears to primarily consist of quibbling on USENET.

    And actually racing open wheel...

    ...and winning championships (and being the second fastest lap ever in
    my class)...

    ...and hockey...

    ...and golf (single digit handicap a couple of years ago)...

    ...skier (and former racer and ski instructor)...

    ...sailor (former world championship competitor)...

    I manage to keep busy.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 15:19:26 2022
    On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:17:15 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    And actually racing open wheel...

    ...and winning championships (and being the second fastest lap ever in
    my class)...

    ...and hockey...

    ...and golf (single digit handicap a couple of years ago)...

    ...skier (and former racer and ski instructor)...

    ...sailor (former world championship competitor)...

    I manage to keep busy.

    lol
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 15:19:58 2022
    On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:15:11 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    So everyone keeps saying...

    ..but never actually supporting.

    fuck off
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 15:22:05 2022
    On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:17:15 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    And actually racing open wheel...

    ...and winning championships (and being the second fastest lap ever in
    my class)...

    ...and hockey...

    ...and golf (single digit handicap a couple of years ago)...

    ...skier (and former racer and ski instructor)...

    ...sailor (former world championship competitor)...

    I manage to keep busy.

    still a deluxe piece of shit
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Apr 20 15:31:09 2022
    On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:17:15 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    And actually racing open wheel...

    ...and winning championships (and being the second fastest lap ever in
    my class)...

    ...and hockey...

    ...and golf (single digit handicap a couple of years ago)...

    ...skier (and former racer and ski instructor)...

    ...sailor (former world championship competitor)...

    I manage to keep busy.

    go to the cupboard and get a hero cookie
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Apr 21 19:18:21 2022
    On 21/04/2022 10:17 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-20 2:22 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 21/04/2022 5:26 am, texas gate wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:56:11 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in >>>> the employ of someone being called "sacked"?

    get a life

    He has. It appears to primarily consist of quibbling on USENET.

    And actually racing open wheel...

    ...and winning championships (and being the second fastest lap ever in
    my class)...

    ...and hockey...

    ...and golf (single digit handicap a couple of years ago)...

    ...skier (and former racer and ski instructor)...

    ...sailor (former world championship competitor)...

    I manage to keep busy.

    Must try harder.

    geoff
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Phil Carmody@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Apr 21 14:11:40 2022
    "Bigbird" <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> writes:
    geoff wrote:
    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the plot.

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
    ers

    I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had agreed that Massi
    had made errors.

    ...and the FIA.

    Naaaaah, they only said that mistakes were made, and they were human
    errors. At no point did they name the person who was responsible for
    those errors. The fact that you're extrapolating from that to deduce
    it was the human who was responsible for such decision-making as his
    "one job" who was actually responsible for the decisions that were
    made shows your intrinsic anti-FIA bias!

    Perhaps some eastern philosophy has been adopted - you must not bring
    shame upon someone in a superior position?

    Phil
    --
    We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
    -- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From JP@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Apr 21 10:18:42 2022
    On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 3:18:44 AM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
    On 21/04/2022 10:17 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-04-20 2:22 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 21/04/2022 5:26 am, texas gate wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:56:11 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Have you found a single instance (other than this one) of remaining in >>>> the employ of someone being called "sacked"?

    get a life

    He has. It appears to primarily consist of quibbling on USENET.

    And actually racing open wheel...

    ...and winning championships (and being the second fastest lap ever in
    my class)...

    ...and hockey...

    ...and golf (single digit handicap a couple of years ago)...

    ...skier (and former racer and ski instructor)...

    ...sailor (former world championship competitor)...

    I manage to keep busy.
    Must try harder.

    geoff
    Why do you all continually engage with this dick Alan, whoever the heck he is. He seems to derive some sort of infantile pleasure from winding you guys up and you take his bait every single time. How long do you think it would take for him to disappear if no one ever responded to him?
    John
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Paul Babiak@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Apr 21 13:21:22 2022
    On 04/21/2022 01:18 PM, JP wrote:


    Why do you all continually engage with this dick Alan, whoever the heck he is. He seems to derive some sort of infantile pleasure from winding you guys up and you take his bait every single time. How long do you think it would take for him to disappear if no one ever responded to him?

    John


    +1
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Geoff May@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Apr 21 19:32:39 2022
    On 21/04/2022 18:18, JP wrote:
    [snipped]

    Why do you all continually engage with this dick Alan, whoever the heck he is. He seems to derive some sort of infantile pleasure from winding you guys up and you take his bait every single time. How long do you think it would take for him to disappear if no one ever responded to him?

    John

    +2

    Cheers

    Geoff
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Mark Jackson@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Apr 21 15:02:12 2022
    On 4/21/2022 2:32 PM, Geoff May wrote:
    On 21/04/2022 18:18, JP wrote:
    [snipped]

    Why do you all continually engage with this dick Alan, whoever the
    heck he is. He seems to derive some sort of infantile pleasure
    from winding you guys up and you take his bait every single time.
    How long do you think it would take for him to disappear if no one
    ever responded to him?

    John

    +2

    +3

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    When we get introspective, the terrorists win.
    - Bus Stop Guy (Darrin Bell)
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Apr 21 13:14:23 2022
    On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:18:43 AM UTC-6, JP wrote:
    Why do you all continually engage with this dick Alan, whoever the heck he is. He seems to derive some sort of infantile pleasure from winding you guys up and you take his bait every single time. How long do you think it would take for him to disappear if no one ever responded to him?
    Yup. Check out his behavior at rec.sport.golf.
    It's the same as here. A troll.
    Bigbird is there too.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Apr 22 11:15:46 2022
    Phil Carmody wrote:

    "Bigbird" <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> writes:
    geoff wrote:
    On 18/04/2022 6:38 am, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the
    plot. >> >

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-

    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
    ers >> >> I thought it was pretty much all the teams that had
    agreed that Massi >> had made errors.

    ...and the FIA.

    Naaaaah, they only said that mistakes were made, and they were human
    errors. At no point did they name the person who was responsible for
    those errors. The fact that you're extrapolating from that to deduce
    it was the human who was responsible for such decision-making as his
    "one job" who was actually responsible for the decisions that were
    made shows your intrinsic anti-FIA bias!

    Perhaps some eastern philosophy has been adopted - you must not bring
    shame upon someone in a superior position?


    Silly me. :)
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Apr 22 11:29:05 2022
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard hofstatder
    wrote:
    On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the
    plot. >>


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers
    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his
    absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.

    Dan
    Serious inquiry?

    Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black ?

    They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to the
    glory days of Ferrari and MS.

    They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or hate.
    Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but I'll try
    to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a fair amount of
    German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate anyone for their skin
    color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss machine in F1 for a long
    while; I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his
    brilliant technical mind might be holding them back. 3) And yes,
    their accomplishments are certainly comparable to Scuderia and
    Schumacher. No argument there.


    I had the impression that it was his main influence was on working with
    the drivers and generally cutting through the bullshit within the team.
    Your claim that he had a significant influence in technical matters is
    new to me. I don't recall him being referred to as having a technical
    role.

    Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular articles?
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Dan the Man@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Apr 22 09:21:37 2022
    On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard hofstatder
    wrote:
    On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost the
    plot. >>


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers
    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.

    Dan
    Serious inquiry?

    Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black ?

    They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to the glory days of Ferrari and MS.

    They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or hate.
    Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but I'll try
    to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a fair amount of
    German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate anyone for their skin
    color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss machine in F1 for a long
    while; I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his brilliant technical mind might be holding them back. 3) And yes,
    their accomplishments are certainly comparable to Scuderia and
    Schumacher. No argument there.

    I had the impression that it was his main influence was on working with
    the drivers and generally cutting through the bullshit within the team.
    Your claim that he had a significant influence in technical matters is
    new to me. I don't recall him being referred to as having a technical
    role.

    Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular articles?
    A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for being an idea man when it came to the car itself.

    Dan
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Apr 22 09:58:36 2022
    On 2022-04-22 9:21 a.m., Dan the Man wrote:
    On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
    hofstatder wrote:
    On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
    the
    plot. >>


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-drivers


    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his
    absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.

    Dan
    Serious inquiry?

    Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black
    ?

    They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to
    the glory days of Ferrari and MS.

    They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or
    hate.
    Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but I'll
    try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a fair amount
    of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate anyone for their
    skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss machine in F1 for a
    long while; I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss
    of his brilliant technical mind might be holding them back. 3)
    And yes, their accomplishments are certainly comparable to
    Scuderia and Schumacher. No argument there.

    I had the impression that it was his main influence was on working
    with the drivers and generally cutting through the bullshit within
    the team. Your claim that he had a significant influence in
    technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him being referred
    to as having a technical role.

    Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular articles?
    A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
    don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for being an
    idea man when it came to the car itself.

    It wouldn't surprise me.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Apr 22 22:04:27 2022
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
    hofstatder wrote:
    On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
    the plot. >>


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
    ers
    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for
    his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.

    Dan
    Serious inquiry?

    Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black
    ?

    They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to
    the glory days of Ferrari and MS.

    They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or
    hate.
    Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but I'll
    try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a fair amount
    of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate anyone for their
    skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss machine in F1 for a
    long while; I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss
    of his brilliant technical mind might be holding them back. 3)
    And yes, their accomplishments are certainly comparable to
    Scuderia and Schumacher. No argument there.

    I had the impression that it was his main influence was on working
    with the drivers and generally cutting through the bullshit within
    the team. Your claim that he had a significant influence in
    technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him being referred
    to as having a technical role.

    Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular articles?
    A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
    don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for being an
    idea man when it came to the car itself.


    Is that it?
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Apr 22 15:09:12 2022
    On 2022-04-22 3:04 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
    hofstatder wrote:
    On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply lost
    the plot. >>


    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-driv
    ers
    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for
    his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess.

    Dan
    Serious inquiry?

    Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and Black
    ?

    They have accomplished very much in last many years, similar to
    the glory days of Ferrari and MS.

    They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love or
    hate.
    Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but I'll
    try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a fair amount
    of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate anyone for their
    skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss machine in F1 for a
    long while; I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss
    of his brilliant technical mind might be holding them back. 3)
    And yes, their accomplishments are certainly comparable to
    Scuderia and Schumacher. No argument there.

    I had the impression that it was his main influence was on working
    with the drivers and generally cutting through the bullshit within
    the team. Your claim that he had a significant influence in
    technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him being referred
    to as having a technical role.

    Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular articles?
    A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
    don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for being an
    idea man when it came to the car itself.


    Is that it?

    Wait... ...just... ...wait.

    You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
    something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?

    That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or abilities for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Apr 23 09:54:15 2022
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-22 3:04 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
    hofstatder wrote:
    On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply
    lost
    the plot. >>



    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-
    driv ers
    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take
    for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I
    guess.

    Dan
    Serious inquiry?

    Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and
    Black ?

    They have accomplished very much in last many years,
    similar to the glory days of Ferrari and MS.

    They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love
    or hate.
    Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but
    I'll try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a
    fair amount of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate
    anyone for their skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss
    machine in F1 for a long while; I was just musing that the
    passing of Lauda and loss of his brilliant technical mind
    might be holding them back. 3) And yes, their accomplishments
    are certainly comparable to Scuderia and Schumacher. No
    argument there.

    I had the impression that it was his main influence was on
    working with the drivers and generally cutting through the
    bullshit within the team. Your claim that he had a significant influence in technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him
    being referred to as having a technical role.

    Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular
    articles?
    A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
    don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for
    being an idea man when it came to the car itself.


    Is that it?

    Wait... ...just... ...wait.

    You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
    something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?

    That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or abilities
    for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?

    No Alan, as usual you show no comprehension of anything.

    You clearly have nothing to contribute but sour grapes and immature
    trolling.

    GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.

    --

    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Apr 23 05:34:09 2022
    On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 3:54:17 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

    GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.

    A month?
    You are as dumb as he is.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Apr 23 05:52:54 2022
    On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 3:54:17 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

    GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.

    --

    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)

    Can you set up a countdown clock in your sig?
    You stupid cunt.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Just once for \@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Apr 23 07:55:22 2022
    On 2022-04-23 2:54 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-22 3:04 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
    hofstatder wrote:
    On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply
    lost
    the plot. >>



    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-
    driv ers
    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take
    for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I
    guess.

    Dan
    Serious inquiry?

    Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and
    Black ?

    They have accomplished very much in last many years,
    similar to the glory days of Ferrari and MS.

    They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love
    or hate.
    Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but
    I'll try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a
    fair amount of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate
    anyone for their skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss
    machine in F1 for a long while; I was just musing that the
    passing of Lauda and loss of his brilliant technical mind
    might be holding them back. 3) And yes, their accomplishments
    are certainly comparable to Scuderia and Schumacher. No
    argument there.

    I had the impression that it was his main influence was on
    working with the drivers and generally cutting through the
    bullshit within the team. Your claim that he had a significant
    influence in technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him
    being referred to as having a technical role.

    Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular
    articles?
    A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
    don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for
    being an idea man when it came to the car itself.


    Is that it?

    Wait... ...just... ...wait.

    You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
    something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?

    That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or abilities
    for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?

    No Alan, as usual you show no comprehension of anything.

    You clearly have nothing to contribute but sour grapes and immature
    trolling.

    GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.

    --

    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)


    Ah yes: the coward's way!

    Take a shot at someone and then put them into your killfile to avoid
    having to deal with the reply.

    When I said that someone might comment positively about Hamilton for
    political reasons in a team, you dismissed that possibility, and now
    you're doing the exact same thing with Lauda.

    But you run away, little man!

    When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
    last dig.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Apr 23 08:09:21 2022
    On Saturday, April 23, 2022 at 8:55:27 AM UTC-6, Just once for "big"bird wrote:

    When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
    last dig.

    Oh fucking goody for you.
    You have such high morals.
    You fucking idiot.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From leonard hofstatder@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Apr 23 10:20:15 2022
    On 4/23/2022 9:55 AM, Just once for "big"bird wrote:
    On 2022-04-23 2:54 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-22 3:04 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
    hofstatder wrote:
    On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
    While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply
    lost
    the plot. >>



    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto-
    wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected-
    driv ers
    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take
    for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I
    guess.

    Dan
    Serious inquiry?

    Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and
    Black ?

    They have accomplished very much in last many years,
    similar to the glory days of Ferrari and MS.

    They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love
    or hate.
    Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but
    I'll try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a
    fair amount of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate
    anyone for their skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss
    machine in F1 for a long while; I was just musing that the
    passing of Lauda and loss of his brilliant technical mind
    might be holding them back. 3) And yes, their accomplishments
    are certainly comparable to Scuderia and Schumacher. No
    argument there.

    I had the impression that it was his main influence was on
    working with the drivers and generally cutting through the
    bullshit within the team.-a Your claim that he had a significant
    influence in technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him
    being referred to as having a technical role.

    Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular
    articles?
    A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
    don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for
    being an idea man when it came to the car itself.


    Is that it?

    Wait... ...just... ...wait.

    You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
    something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?

    That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or abilities
    for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?

    No Alan, as usual you show no comprehension of anything.

    You clearly have nothing to contribute but sour grapes and immature
    trolling.

    GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.

    --

    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)


    Ah yes: the coward's way!

    Take a shot at someone and then put them into your killfile to avoid
    having to deal with the reply.

    When I said that someone might comment positively about Hamilton for political reasons in a team, you dismissed that possibility, and now
    you're doing the exact same thing with Lauda.

    But you run away, little man!

    When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
    last dig.


    STOP CHANGING YOUR ALIAS TO AVOID KILL FILES.

    JFC!
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Apr 23 22:55:03 2022
    Just once for "big"bird wrote:

    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might
    take for his absence to affect Merc. We have our
    answer, I guess.

    Dan
    2) Yes, Merc has
    been the boss machine in F1 for a long while; I was just
    musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his
    brilliant technical mind might be holding them back.

    I had the impression that it was his main influence was on
    working with the drivers and generally cutting through the
    bullshit within the team. Your claim that he had a
    significant influence in technical matters is new to me. I
    don't recall him being referred to as having a technical
    role.

    Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular
    articles?
    A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto
    Wolff. I don't recall the exact words said, but he credited
    Lauda for being an idea man when it came to the car itself.


    Is that it?

    Wait... ...just... ...wait.

    You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?

    That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or
    abilities for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?

    No Alan, as usual you show no comprehension of anything.

    You clearly have nothing to contribute but sour grapes and immature trolling.

    GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.



    Ah yes: the coward's way!

    Take a shot at someone and then put them into your killfile to avoid
    having to deal with the reply.


    Look at yourself you attention seeking toxic little twat.

    When I said that someone might comment positively about Hamilton for political reasons in a team, you dismissed that possibility, and now
    you're doing the exact same thing with Lauda.


    Another lie.
    I did not dismiss anything.
    You clearly have no idea WTF you are talking about BUT since you insist
    on HUMILIATING yourself yet again.

    As above, Dan:
    "After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his
    absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess."
    AND
    "I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his
    brilliant technical mind might be holding them back"

    So I asked him on what that rather bold statement was based and he
    referenced a single unremarkable statement from Toto in some interview.

    Hence "Is that it?"

    So nothing to do with any of you small minded comments.

    But you run away, little man!


    I didn't run, you pissant little shit stain.

    I walked away from you toxicity and I told you why.
    You are a know nothing know it all that can never reflect on nor accept
    any response to you usually unintelligent comments. I could do with a
    break from your incessant, tedious and relentless repetition of the
    same flawed arguments and lies.

    When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
    last dig.

    Yet another lie. You have never killfiled anyone. Your paranoia coupled
    with low self esteem can not handle the idea that someone make a
    comment about you that you cannot see.

    I can.

    You have just confirmed the 3 traits I listed as reason for putting you
    in the Bozo bin.
    So now you can go fuck yourself you tedious, lying little cunt.

    There, I hope that was worth the trouble of nym-shifting to your
    flatulent ego.

    Now let's see who is the coward; can you resist making any cowardly
    comments behind my back, Bozo...

    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Darryl Johnson@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Apr 23 19:48:20 2022
    On 2022-04-23 6:55 PM, Bigbird wrote:
    Just once for "big"bird wrote:


    <snip>


    When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
    last dig.

    Yet another lie. You have never killfiled anyone. Your paranoia coupled
    with low self esteem can not handle the idea that someone make a
    comment about you that you cannot see.

    I can.

    You have just confirmed the 3 traits I listed as reason for putting you
    in the Bozo bin.
    So now you can go fuck yourself you tedious, lying little cunt.

    There, I hope that was worth the trouble of nym-shifting to your
    flatulent ego.

    Now let's see who is the coward; can you resist making any cowardly
    comments behind my back, Bozo...


    Please, please, please just let it go.

    Alan isn't going to change.

    You're not going to change.

    It's ends up with the two you insulting each other, calling each other
    names and generally getting nowhere.

    It's a total waste of time. Which is fine if it were just you and Alan
    beating the dead horse ad infinitum. But if I killfile you, then I miss anything you write that isn't a reply to Alan, and you do have some
    value when then.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Apr 24 09:39:30 2022
    Darryl Johnson wrote:

    On 2022-04-23 6:55 PM, Bigbird wrote:

    Please, please, please just let it go.

    Alan isn't going to change.

    You're not going to change.

    It's ends up with the two you insulting each other, calling each
    other names and generally getting nowhere.

    It's a total waste of time. Which is fine if it were just you and
    Alan beating the dead horse ad infinitum. But if I killfile you, then
    I miss anything you write that isn't a reply to Alan, and you do have
    some value when then.

    Thank you for that.

    As you can see I did intend to extricate myself from the cycle of
    nonsense by killfiling him but he could not let it go without
    circumventing the killfile to double down on his previous absurd
    comments.

    He is out for a month now. Enjoy.

    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)
    Texasgate (no explanation needed)
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Apr 24 08:48:36 2022
    On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 3:39:32 AM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:

    He is out for a month now. Enjoy.

    You've lost your fucking mind.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Apr 24 10:24:10 2022
    On 2022-04-23 3:55 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Just once for "big"bird wrote:

    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might
    take for his absence to affect Merc. We have our
    answer, I guess.

    Dan
    2) Yes, Merc has
    been the boss machine in F1 for a long while; I was just
    musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his
    brilliant technical mind might be holding them back.

    I had the impression that it was his main influence was on
    working with the drivers and generally cutting through the
    bullshit within the team. Your claim that he had a
    significant influence in technical matters is new to me. I
    don't recall him being referred to as having a technical
    role.

    Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular
    articles?
    A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto
    Wolff. I don't recall the exact words said, but he credited
    Lauda for being an idea man when it came to the car itself.


    Is that it?

    Wait... ...just... ...wait.

    You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
    something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?

    That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or
    abilities for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?

    No Alan, as usual you show no comprehension of anything.

    You clearly have nothing to contribute but sour grapes and immature
    trolling.

    GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.



    Ah yes: the coward's way!

    Take a shot at someone and then put them into your killfile to avoid
    having to deal with the reply.


    Look at yourself you attention seeking toxic little twat.

    When I said that someone might comment positively about Hamilton for
    political reasons in a team, you dismissed that possibility, and now
    you're doing the exact same thing with Lauda.


    Another lie.
    I did not dismiss anything.

    Yes. You did.

    You clearly have no idea WTF you are talking about BUT since you insist
    on HUMILIATING yourself yet again.

    As above, Dan:
    "After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take for his
    absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I guess."
    AND
    "I was just musing that the passing of Lauda and loss of his
    brilliant technical mind might be holding them back"

    So I asked him on what that rather bold statement was based and he
    referenced a single unremarkable statement from Toto in some interview.

    Hence "Is that it?"

    So nothing to do with any of you small minded comments.

    Then what do you claim you meant if not:

    "Is a statement of support from Toto Wolff your only support for Lauda's technical assistance, because that can be dismissed as being politic."

    ...hmm?


    But you run away, little man!


    I didn't run, you pissant little shit stain.

    You did run.


    I walked away from you toxicity and I told you why.

    Ran.

    You took a shot and ran...

    ...like a whining pussy.

    You are a know nothing know it all that can never reflect on nor accept
    any response to you usually unintelligent comments. I could do with a
    break from your incessant, tedious and relentless repetition of the
    same flawed arguments and lies.

    Come out to my track and tell me that.

    I would LOVE to see you in a car.


    When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
    last dig.

    Yet another lie. You have never killfiled anyone. Your paranoia coupled
    with low self esteem can not handle the idea that someone make a
    comment about you that you cannot see.

    You're simply wrong (shocker!).

    I just don't make a big show of it.

    In this group, Texasgate is killfiled.


    I can.

    LOL

    You mean you can make an insult and run.


    You have just confirmed the 3 traits I listed as reason for putting you
    in the Bozo bin.
    So now you can go fuck yourself you tedious, lying little cunt.

    There, I hope that was worth the trouble of nym-shifting to your
    flatulent ego.

    Completely worth it to see you utterly lose your shit.


    Now let's see who is the coward; can you resist making any cowardly
    comments behind my back, Bozo...


    I'm not the one taking shots from cover, pussy.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Apr 24 10:34:51 2022
    On 2022-04-23 8:20 a.m., leonard hofstatder wrote:
    On 4/23/2022 9:55 AM, Just once for "big"bird wrote:
    On 2022-04-23 2:54 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-04-22 3:04 p.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 7:29:07 AM UTC-4, Bigbird wrote:
    Dan the Man wrote:

    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:10:49 AM UTC-4, leonard
    hofstatder wrote:
    On 4/19/2022 7:53 AM, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4, News wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> While avoiding the obvious, that Mercedes has simply
    lost
    the plot. >>



    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/12587984/mercedes-boss-toto- >>>>>>> wolff-says-michael-masi-was-a-liability-for-f1-who-disrespected- >>>>>>> driv ers
    After Niki Lauda died, I wondered how long it might take
    for his absence to affect Merc. We have our answer, I
    guess.

    Dan
    Serious inquiry?

    Do people hate MB and LH just because they're German and
    Black ?

    They have accomplished very much in last many years,
    similar to the glory days of Ferrari and MS.

    They are very similarly polarizing, no? People either love
    or hate.
    Not sure if your questions were addressed to News or me, but
    I'll try to answer. 1) I don't hate Merc or HAM; I have a
    fair amount of German blood from my Mother, and I don't hate
    anyone for their skin color. 2) Yes, Merc has been the boss
    machine in F1 for a long while; I was just musing that the
    passing of Lauda and loss of his brilliant technical mind
    might be holding them back. 3) And yes, their accomplishments
    are certainly comparable to Scuderia and Schumacher. No
    argument there.

    I had the impression that it was his main influence was on
    working with the drivers and generally cutting through the
    bullshit within the team.-a Your claim that he had a significant >>>>>>> influence in technical matters is new to me. I don't recall him
    being referred to as having a technical role.

    Where did you get this impression? Is it from particular
    articles?
    A few years back, I saw a television interview with Toto Wolff. I
    don't recall the exact words said, but he credited Lauda for
    being an idea man when it came to the car itself.


    Is that it?

    Wait... ...just... ...wait.

    You're not suggesting that a member of an organization might say
    something that wasn't the precise truth, are you?

    That someone might perhaps hype someone's contributions or abilities
    for reasons of public relations and/or team unity?

    No Alan, as usual you show no comprehension of anything.

    You clearly have nothing to contribute but sour grapes and immature
    trolling.

    GFY in the Bozo bin for a month.

    --

    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker (Troll, habitual liar and general arsehole)


    Ah yes: the coward's way!

    Take a shot at someone and then put them into your killfile to avoid
    having to deal with the reply.

    When I said that someone might comment positively about Hamilton for
    political reasons in a team, you dismissed that possibility, and now
    you're doing the exact same thing with Lauda.

    But you run away, little man!

    When I do killfile someone, I just do it. I don't try and get in one
    last dig.


    STOP CHANGING YOUR ALIAS TO AVOID KILL FILES.

    JFC!

    I'll do whatever I please...

    ...just as you are free to do so (including not having bothered to right
    this reply).
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Apr 28 08:23:33 2022
    His DRS excuse again

    https://racingnews365.com/wolff-addresses-significant-gap-between-russell-and-hamilton
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)
  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Apr 28 06:00:07 2022
    On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 11:24:14 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Come out to my track and tell me that.

    and get your ass handed to you
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
    * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2)