• Max Mosley shot himself after learning of terminal illness

    From Mr Gobrien@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 29 08:49:35 2022

    Max Mosley shot himself after learning of terminal illness

    More - https://uk.yahoo.com/news/max-mosley-shot-himself-learning-145500394.html
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  • From a425couple@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 29 11:58:51 2022
    On 3/29/2022 8:49 AM, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    Max Mosley

    Here is his video obituary:

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/video/2021/may/24/max-mosley-fia-president-and-privacy-campaigner-dies-aged-81-video-obituary
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 30 09:41:05 2022
    On 30/03/2022 4:49 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:

    Max Mosley shot himself after learning of terminal illness

    More - https://uk.yahoo.com/news/max-mosley-shot-himself-learning-145500394.html

    Sad that he needed such a messy method. Not to mention even more
    distressing to others close to him than alternative ways.

    But a brave and pragmatic resolution to his situation.

    geoff
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  • From alister@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 30 09:51:10 2022
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 09:41:05 +1300, geoff wrote:

    On 30/03/2022 4:49 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:

    Max Mosley shot himself after learning of terminal illness

    More -
    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/max-mosley-shot-himself-
    learning-145500394.html

    Sad that he needed such a messy method. Not to mention even more
    distressing to others close to him than alternative ways.

    But a brave and pragmatic resolution to his situation.

    geoff

    As someone who was diagnosed with a critical illness (fortunatly
    successfully treated so far) I can agree with everything said above.
    I know that if it had come to it I would have wanted to decide when it was time to go.




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  • From Calum@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 30 11:59:59 2022
    On 30/03/2022 10:51, alister wrote:

    As someone who was diagnosed with a critical illness (fortunatly
    successfully treated so far) I can agree with everything said above.
    I know that if it had come to it I would have wanted to decide when it was time to go.

    I probably would too, although I'd like to think I might do it in a way
    that didn't involve people having to wash bits of me off the walls
    afterwards.
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  • From a425couple@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 30 08:40:46 2022
    On 3/29/2022 1:41 PM, geoff wrote:
    On 30/03/2022 4:49 am, Mr Gobrien wrote:

    Max Mosley shot himself after learning of terminal illness

    More -
    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/max-mosley-shot-himself-learning-145500394.html

    Sad that he needed such a messy method. Not to mention even more
    distressing to others close to him than alternative ways.

    But a brave and pragmatic resolution to his situation.

    geoff

    As to your objection ("messy method"), yes, but it
    does have the very positive advantage as to very high
    chance of successfully completing the mission,
    (around 82%) and being quick.
    ("Sweepers, sweepers, many your brooms")

    Sadly, too many try neater and cleaner methods, and fail,
    and some linger as vegetables for sadly too long.

    In Japan firearms are much more limited, cliffs
    and jumping in front of fast transportation
    is very messy, traumatic, and damaging.



    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-fatality/
    Lethality of Suicide Methods
    Case Fatality Rates by Suicide Method

    https://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods
    "Shotgun to head = 99% (skip around) ----
    Hanging 89.5%
    Household toxins 77%
    Carbon Monoxide 71%
    Drowning ocean/lake 63%
    Overdose illegal drugs 49%
    Overdose prescription drugs 12%"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Japan

    also from https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/5-facts-about-suicide-in-japan
    "Live in urban Japan long enough and, as shocking as it sounds,
    yourCOre eventually going to have the distinctly unpleasant experience
    of riding a train that hits and more than likely kills a human being.
    Even if you arenrCOt experiencing it firsthand, walking into a
    Tokyo train station only to notice yet another train delay caused
    by what is euphemistically described as a rCLbodily accidentrCY
    is at least a weekly occurrence."

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15617392/

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/suicidesintheunitedkingdom/2020registrations
    "The most common method of suicide in England and Wales for both
    males and females continued to be hanging, strangulation and
    suffocation (all grouped together). This method accounted for
    58.1% of all suicides in 2020 (3,036 out of 5,224 registered
    deaths). The second most common method continued to be poisoning
    and accounted for 19.9% of all suicides in 2020 (1,041 out of
    5,224 deaths).
    Yuck! High failure rate and painful!
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 30 18:23:08 2022
    a425couple wrote:

    Not all "attempted suicides" are...



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  • From alister@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 30 19:10:57 2022
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 11:59:59 +0100, Calum wrote:

    On 30/03/2022 10:51, alister wrote:

    As someone who was diagnosed with a critical illness (fortunatly
    successfully treated so far) I can agree with everything said above.
    I know that if it had come to it I would have wanted to decide when it
    was time to go.

    I probably would too, although I'd like to think I might do it in a way
    that didn't involve people having to wash bits of me off the walls afterwards.

    At least it was done with the knowledge of his relatives & he had a
    process to say goodby properly.
    when a family member does this unnecessarily & without warning (mental
    health issues) it is devastating to the rest of the family, something else
    I have first hand experience of :-(





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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 30 17:14:19 2022
    On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 12:23:10 PM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:
    a425couple wrote:

    Not all "attempted suicides" are...

    wtf are you on about?
    you useless idiot.
    off yourself asshole.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 30 19:18:25 2022
    On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 6:14:20 PM UTC-6, texas gate wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 12:23:10 PM UTC-6, Bigbird wrote:
    a425couple wrote:

    Not all "attempted suicides" are...
    wtf are you on about?
    you useless idiot.
    off yourself asshole.

    im replying to bigturd
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 30 19:20:31 2022
    On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 1:11:04 PM UTC-6, alister wrote:

    when a family member does this unnecessarily

    lol
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