• Why look at this: Masi got a promotion...

    From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Mar 19 17:58:11 2022
    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was his
    boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?
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  • From Paul Babiak@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Mar 19 21:24:01 2022
    On 03/19/2022 08:58 PM, Alan wrote:
    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was his boss last
    year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    Alan the document in your link is dated January 2021. It's 2022 now.

    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia_organigrammes_-_january_2022.pdf

    Michael Masi Not Named on FIA Organisation Chart for January 2022

    https://www.formulanerds.com/news/michael-masi-not-named-on-fia-organisation-chart-for-january-2022/
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Mar 19 18:54:20 2022
    On 2022-03-19 6:24 p.m., Paul Babiak wrote:
    On 03/19/2022 08:58 PM, Alan wrote:
    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat
    racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was his
    boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    Alan the document in your link is dated January 2021. It's 2022 now.

    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia_organigrammes_-_january_2022.pdf


    Michael Masi Not Named on FIA Organisation Chart for January 2022

    https://www.formulanerds.com/news/michael-masi-not-named-on-fia-organisation-chart-for-january-2022/


    Sorry... ...but that article is:

    Two months out of date.

    Doesn't show in their images of FIA PDFs what they claim is there.

    Doesn't provide a source to check.

    And they get their facts wrong.

    There is a Director for single-seaters, and Peter Bayer is in that
    position...

    ...but Masi never held that one.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Mar 20 10:29:58 2022
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-19 6:24 p.m., Paul Babiak wrote:
    On 03/19/2022 08:58 PM, Alan wrote:

    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL
    single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was
    his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    Alan the document in your link is dated January 2021. It's 2022 now.

    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia_organigrammes_-_january_ 2022.pdf Michael Masi Not Named on FIA Organisation Chart for
    January 2022

    https://www.formulanerds.com/news/michael-masi-not-named-on-fia-orga nisation-chart-for-january-2022/

    Sorry...

    LOL,

    oh Alan...

    You could have just finished there.
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  • From alister@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Mar 20 11:02:36 2022
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:

    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat
    racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was his
    boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.




    --
    Let sleeping dogs lie.
    -- Charles Dickens
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  • From Geoff May@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Mar 20 11:51:52 2022
    On 20/03/2022 11:02, alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:

    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat
    racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was his
    boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.

    He had other titles, for example he was (and still is) F1 safety
    delegate, inspected new circuits and was involved in the sporting
    regulations that F1 races by.

    These titles remain, he has lost the "F1 race director" title in his
    list of responsibilities.

    Cheers

    Geoff
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Mar 20 12:19:57 2022
    alister wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:


    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat
    racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was his
    boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much damage
    thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.

    You are responding to fake news.

    Alan has disappeared so far down the whole he has forgotten what year
    it is.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Mar 20 08:14:30 2022
    On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 6:58:16 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Are you getting it yet?

    lol
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Mar 21 20:18:28 2022
    On 2022-03-20 3:29 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-19 6:24 p.m., Paul Babiak wrote:
    On 03/19/2022 08:58 PM, Alan wrote:

    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL
    single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was
    his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    Alan the document in your link is dated January 2021. It's 2022 now.

    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia_organigrammes_-_january_
    2022.pdf Michael Masi Not Named on FIA Organisation Chart for
    January 2022

    https://www.formulanerds.com/news/michael-masi-not-named-on-fia-orga
    nisation-chart-for-january-2022/

    Sorry...

    LOL,

    oh Alan...

    You could have just finished there.


    But I didn't...

    ...and you carefully snipped the salient points.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Mar 21 20:19:51 2022
    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:

    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat
    racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was his
    boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive not to
    tell his side of the story.

    You don't think he's been approached multiple times by motorsports journalists?

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    Don't you think that's odd?
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Mar 21 21:58:16 2022
    On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 9:19:55 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    he has some pride. unlike you

    Don't you think that's odd?

    you are odd. so fuck off
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  • From Martin Harran@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 09:01:25 2022
    On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 20:19:51 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:

    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat
    racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was his
    boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much damage thus >> avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive not to
    tell his side of the story.

    Have you figured out that alternative word for 'sacked' yet?


    You don't think he's been approached multiple times by motorsports >journalists?

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    Don't you think that's odd?
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  • From keithr0@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 19:28:42 2022
    On 20/03/2022 9:02 pm, alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:

    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat
    racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was his
    boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.

    Or he may do well in a less stressful position that doesn't require real
    time decision making. Some people do not perform well under those circumstances but are perfectly OK doing day to day stuff.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 09:48:24 2022
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 3:29 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-19 6:24 p.m., Paul Babiak wrote:
    On 03/19/2022 08:58 PM, Alan wrote:


    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL
    single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever
    was his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    Alan the document in your link is dated January 2021. It's 2022
    now.


    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia_organigrammes_-_january_
    2022.pdf Michael Masi Not Named on FIA Organisation Chart for January 2022


    https://www.formulanerds.com/news/michael-masi-not-named-on-fia-orga
    nisation-chart-for-january-2022/

    Sorry...

    LOL,

    oh Alan...

    You could have just finished there.


    But I didn't...

    ...and you carefully snipped the salient points.

    No. I didn't.

    You fucked up and you could just have apologised and moved on.

    Instead you pretended otherwise and obfuscated.


    --
    Bozo bin
    Felicity
    George R
    Irving S
    Texasgate
    Enjoy!
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 09:51:54 2022
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:


    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was
    his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much
    damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive not to
    tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    You don't think he's been approached multiple times by motorsports journalists?

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    Don't you think that's odd?

    No. They clearly are trying to sweep their errors under the carpet.
    Doing anything else would be an overt admission that Masi effectively
    changed the result of the WDC and they have no remedy to that.

    --
    Bozo bin
    Felicity
    George R
    Irving S
    Texasgate
    Enjoy!
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  • From Slang@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 16:02:58 2022
    Il 22/03/2022 10:28, keithr0 ha scritto:

    Or he may do well in a less stressful position that doesn't require real time decision making. Some people do not perform well under those circumstances but are perfectly OK doing day to day stuff.


    I agree with you.
    Masi need to work slowly: like in Silverstone (?), where LH received an ammonition "only" after the 29th time he violated track limits ;-).
    S
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  • From leonard hofstatder@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 10:27:59 2022
    On 3/22/2022 10:02 AM, Slang wrote:
    Il 22/03/2022 10:28, keithr0 ha scritto:

    Or he may do well in a less stressful position that doesn't require
    real time decision making. Some people do not perform well under those
    circumstances but are perfectly OK doing day to day stuff.


    I agree with you.
    Masi need to work slowly: like in Silverstone (?), where-a LH received an ammonition "only" after the 29th time he violated track limits ;-).
    S


    Track "limits" are a goddamned joke. They ruined all the tracks when
    they started paving runoffs. There needs to be "real" consequence for
    going off track, not a judgment call.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 09:49:27 2022
    On 2022-03-22 2:48 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 3:29 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-19 6:24 p.m., Paul Babiak wrote:
    On 03/19/2022 08:58 PM, Alan wrote:


    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL
    single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever
    was his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    Alan the document in your link is dated January 2021. It's 2022
    now.


    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia_organigrammes_-_january_
    2022.pdf Michael Masi Not Named on FIA Organisation Chart for
    January 2022


    https://www.formulanerds.com/news/michael-masi-not-named-on-fia-orga
    nisation-chart-for-january-2022/

    Sorry...

    LOL,

    oh Alan...

    You could have just finished there.


    But I didn't...

    ...and you carefully snipped the salient points.

    No. I didn't.

    Liar.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 09:51:10 2022
    On 2022-03-22 2:51 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:


    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat
    racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was
    his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much
    damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive not to
    tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    Ah!

    And suddenly you want to depend on something you can't support!


    You don't think he's been approached multiple times by motorsports
    journalists?

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    Don't you think that's odd?

    No. They clearly are trying to sweep their errors under the carpet.
    Doing anything else would be an overt admission that Masi effectively
    changed the result of the WDC and they have no remedy to that.

    And how does the report they released NOT admit that?

    What they DON'T want to admit is the part that they played in it, so
    they talk about it only in the most oblique way.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 09:52:05 2022
    On 2022-03-22 8:27 a.m., leonard hofstatder wrote:
    On 3/22/2022 10:02 AM, Slang wrote:
    Il 22/03/2022 10:28, keithr0 ha scritto:

    Or he may do well in a less stressful position that doesn't require
    real time decision making. Some people do not perform well under
    those circumstances but are perfectly OK doing day to day stuff.


    I agree with you.
    Masi need to work slowly: like in Silverstone (?), where-a LH received
    an ammonition "only" after the 29th time he violated track limits ;-).
    S


    Track "limits" are a goddamned joke. They ruined all the tracks when
    they started paving runoffs. There needs to be "real" consequence for
    going off track, not a judgment call.

    Sorry, but '"real" consequences' should be... ...what: serious injury
    and death?
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  • From Martin Harran@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 17:28:14 2022
    On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:51:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:51 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:


    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf> >>>>>
    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat
    racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was
    his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much
    damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive not to
    tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    Ah!

    And suddenly you want to depend on something you can't support!

    Irony meters have just exploded all over the world.


    You don't think he's been approached multiple times by motorsports
    journalists?

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    Don't you think that's odd?

    No. They clearly are trying to sweep their errors under the carpet.
    Doing anything else would be an overt admission that Masi effectively
    changed the result of the WDC and they have no remedy to that.

    And how does the report they released NOT admit that?

    What they DON'T want to admit is the part that they played in it, so
    they talk about it only in the most oblique way.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 10:31:00 2022
    On 2022-03-22 10:28 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:51:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:51 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:


    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf> >>>>>>
    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat >>>>>> racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was
    his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much
    damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive not to
    tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    Ah!

    And suddenly you want to depend on something you can't support!

    Irony meters have just exploded all over the world.

    Not really.

    I've provided support and reasonable inferences.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 10:56:25 2022
    On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 10:52:08 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Sorry,

    sorry is for pussys
    you fucking pussy

    but '"real" consequences' should be... ...what: serious injury
    and death?

    you are a fucking idiot
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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 14:02:15 2022
    On 3/22/2022 11:27 AM, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    On 3/22/2022 10:02 AM, Slang wrote:
    Il 22/03/2022 10:28, keithr0 ha scritto:

    Or he may do well in a less stressful position that doesn't require
    real time decision making. Some people do not perform well under
    those circumstances but are perfectly OK doing day to day stuff.


    I agree with you.
    Masi need to work slowly: like in Silverstone (?), where-a LH received
    an ammonition "only" after the 29th time he violated track limits ;-).
    S


    Track "limits" are a goddamned joke. They ruined all the tracks when
    they started paving runoffs. There needs to be "real" consequence for
    going off track, not a judgment call.



    Tilkedromes
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 11:05:05 2022
    On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 10:49:30 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Liar.

    moron
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 11:05:31 2022
    On 2022-03-22 11:02 a.m., News wrote:
    On 3/22/2022 11:27 AM, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    On 3/22/2022 10:02 AM, Slang wrote:
    Il 22/03/2022 10:28, keithr0 ha scritto:

    Or he may do well in a less stressful position that doesn't require
    real time decision making. Some people do not perform well under
    those circumstances but are perfectly OK doing day to day stuff.


    I agree with you.
    Masi need to work slowly: like in Silverstone (?), where-a LH received
    an ammonition "only" after the 29th time he violated track limits ;-).
    S


    Track "limits" are a goddamned joke. They ruined all the tracks when
    they started paving runoffs. There needs to be "real" consequence for
    going off track, not a judgment call.



    Tilkedromes

    Times change.

    The world is no longer willing to see F1 drivers die.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 11:07:04 2022
    On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 12:05:33 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Times change.

    The world is no longer willing to see F1 drivers die.

    fuck off pussy
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  • From News@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 14:19:24 2022
    On 3/22/2022 2:05 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-03-22 11:02 a.m., News wrote:
    On 3/22/2022 11:27 AM, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    On 3/22/2022 10:02 AM, Slang wrote:
    Il 22/03/2022 10:28, keithr0 ha scritto:

    Or he may do well in a less stressful position that doesn't require >>>>> real time decision making. Some people do not perform well under
    those circumstances but are perfectly OK doing day to day stuff.


    I agree with you.
    Masi need to work slowly: like in Silverstone (?), where-a LH
    received an ammonition "only" after the 29th time he violated track
    limits ;-).
    S


    Track "limits" are a goddamned joke. They ruined all the tracks when
    they started paving runoffs. There needs to be "real" consequence for
    going off track, not a judgment call.



    Tilkedromes

    Times change.

    The world is no longer willing to see F1 drivers die.


    Strawman makes strawman claim.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 18:27:00 2022
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:48 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 3:29 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-19 6:24 p.m., Paul Babiak wrote:
    On 03/19/2022 08:58 PM, Alan wrote:



    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of
    whomever was his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    Alan the document in your link is dated January 2021. It's
    2022 now.


    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia_organigrammes_-_january_
    2022.pdf Michael Masi Not Named on FIA Organisation
    Chart for January 2022


    https://www.formulanerds.com/news/michael-masi-not-named-on-fia-orga
    nisation-chart-for-january-2022/

    Sorry...

    LOL,

    oh Alan...

    You could have just finished there.


    But I didn't...

    ...and you carefully snipped the salient points.

    No. I didn't.

    Liar.

    Did you or did you not claim Masi got a promotion by citing a
    misleading organisation chart from over a year ago?

    Let me help; you did.

    Nothing I snipped was salient to that attempted
    deception/misrepresentation.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 18:31:47 2022
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:51 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:



    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL
    single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever
    was his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much
    damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive
    not to tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    Ah!

    And suddenly you want to depend on something you can't support!


    Not at all.

    As usual you are dishonestly trying to misrepresent my comment.

    So have you or have you not heard of an NDA? and would or would not
    that be a way of keeping someone from speaking out after being sacked?


    You don't think he's been approached multiple times by motorsports journalists?

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    Don't you think that's odd?

    No. They clearly are trying to sweep their errors under the carpet.
    Doing anything else would be an overt admission that Masi
    effectively changed the result of the WDC and they have no remedy
    to that.

    And how does the report they released NOT admit that?

    Quote where you think it does.


    What they DON'T want to admit is the part that they played in it, so
    they talk about it only in the most oblique way.

    Well, let us know when you have an iota of evidence to support that lie.

    --
    Bozo bin
    Felicity
    George R
    Irving S
    Texasgate
    Enjoy!
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 18:32:24 2022
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 10:28 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:51:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:51 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:



    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of
    whomever was his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too
    much damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no
    incentive not to tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    Ah!

    And suddenly you want to depend on something you can't support!

    Irony meters have just exploded all over the world.

    Not really.

    I've provided support and reasonable inferences.

    Liar.
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  • From Slang@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 20:08:27 2022
    Il 22/03/2022 16:27, leonard hofstatder ha scritto:

    Track "limits" are a goddamned joke. They ruined all the tracks when
    they started paving runoffs. There needs to be "real" consequence for
    going off track, not a judgment call.

    The simple real consequence is gain advantage in lap time.
    If not, why go beyond?
    It is enough to go slowly in corners.....
    S
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  • From Slang@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 20:10:17 2022
    Il 22/03/2022 16:27, leonard hofstatder ha scritto:

    Track "limits" are a goddamned joke. They ruined all the tracks when
    they started paving runoffs. There needs to be "real" consequence for
    going off track, not a judgment call.

    I agree, but this could be a safety question?
    S
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 12:23:16 2022
    On 2022-03-22 11:27 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:48 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 3:29 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-19 6:24 p.m., Paul Babiak wrote:
    On 03/19/2022 08:58 PM, Alan wrote:



    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL
    single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of
    whomever was his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    Alan the document in your link is dated January 2021. It's
    2022 now.


    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia_organigrammes_-_january_ >>>>>>> 2022.pdf Michael Masi Not Named on FIA Organisation
    Chart for January 2022


    https://www.formulanerds.com/news/michael-masi-not-named-on-fia-orga >>>>>>> nisation-chart-for-january-2022/

    Sorry...

    LOL,

    oh Alan...

    You could have just finished there.


    But I didn't...

    ...and you carefully snipped the salient points.

    No. I didn't.

    Liar.

    Did you or did you not claim Masi got a promotion by citing a
    misleading organisation chart from over a year ago?

    Let me help; you did.

    Nothing I snipped was salient to that attempted
    deception/misrepresentation.

    Liar.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Mar 22 12:33:38 2022
    On 2022-03-22 11:31 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:51 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:



    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL
    single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever
    was his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much
    damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive
    not to tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    Ah!

    And suddenly you want to depend on something you can't support!


    Not at all.

    As usual you are dishonestly trying to misrepresent my comment.

    So have you or have you not heard of an NDA? and would or would not
    that be a way of keeping someone from speaking out after being sacked?

    You are implying that an NDA is involved...

    ...without any support for that at all...

    ...liar.



    You don't think he's been approached multiple times by motorsports
    journalists?

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    Don't you think that's odd?

    No. They clearly are trying to sweep their errors under the carpet.
    Doing anything else would be an overt admission that Masi
    effectively changed the result of the WDC and they have no remedy
    to that.

    And how does the report they released NOT admit that?

    Quote where you think it does.

    Right after your quote showing that there is an NDA involved, Liar.



    What they DON'T want to admit is the part that they played in it, so
    they talk about it only in the most oblique way.

    Well, let us know when you have an iota of evidence to support that lie.

    'It was also considered that the decisions regarding the safety car at
    the end of the 2021 Abu Dhabi GP likely took into account previous
    discussions (including at meetings of the F1 SAC, the F1 Commission, and
    F1 Team Managers) that made clear the F1 teamsrCO preference to end races under green flag racing conditions, rather than behind a safety car,
    when safe to do so.'

    Is the "F1 SAC" a part of the "F1 Team Managers"...

    ...or part of the FIA?

    Same question about the F1 Commission.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 23 13:19:49 2022
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 11:27 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:48 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 3:29 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-19 6:24 p.m., Paul Babiak wrote:
    On 03/19/2022 08:58 PM, Alan wrote:




    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of
    whomever was his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    Alan the document in your link is dated January 2021.
    It's 2022 now.



    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/fia_organigrammes_-_january_
    2022.pdf Michael Masi Not Named on FIA Organisation
    Chart for January 2022



    https://www.formulanerds.com/news/michael-masi-not-named-on-fia-orga
    nisation-chart-for-january-2022/

    Sorry...

    LOL,

    oh Alan...

    You could have just finished there.


    But I didn't...

    ...and you carefully snipped the salient points.

    No. I didn't.

    Liar.

    Did you or did you not claim Masi got a promotion by citing a
    misleading organisation chart from over a year ago?

    Let me help; you did.

    Nothing I snipped was salient to that attempted deception/misrepresentation.

    Liar.

    LOL.

    Your dishonesty is your word.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 23 13:34:40 2022
    Alan wrote:

    This thread is just Baker proving that deep down he is simply a
    dishonest little prick.

    On 2022-03-22 11:31 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    [snip]

    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive
    not to tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    Ah!

    And suddenly you want to depend on something you can't support!


    Not at all.

    As usual you are dishonestly trying to misrepresent my comment.

    So have you or have you not heard of an NDA? and would or would not
    that be a way of keeping someone from speaking out after being
    sacked?

    You are implying that an NDA is involved...

    No, that is yet another LIE.

    As he was not booted out of the FIA so there was no need for an NDA but
    that option was there if as you claim they needed to "buy his silence";
    I asked you whether you had ever heard of one... clearly refuting you
    rather unintelligent claim.

    Now you appear to be dishonestly pretending not to understand English.


    ...without any support for that at all...

    ...liar.



    You don't think he's been approached multiple times by
    motorsports journalists?

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    Don't you think that's odd?

    No. They clearly are trying to sweep their errors under the
    carpet. Doing anything else would be an overt admission that
    Masi effectively changed the result of the WDC and they have no
    remedy to that.

    And how does the report they released NOT admit that?

    Quote where you think it does.

    Right after your quote showing that there is an NDA involved, Liar.


    No, of course you can't.

    Ps. I never claimed there was an NDA involved.

    That is just another of your LIES



    What they DON'T want to admit is the part that they played in it,
    so they talk about it only in the most oblique way.

    Well, let us know when you have an iota of evidence to support that
    lie.

    'It was also considered that the decisions regarding the safety car
    at the end of the 2021 Abu Dhabi GP likely took into account previous discussions (including at meetings of the F1 SAC, the F1 Commission,
    and F1 Team Managers) that made clear the F1 teamsrCO preference to end
    races under green flag racing conditions, rather than behind a safety
    car, when safe to do so.'

    Is the "F1 SAC" a part of the "F1 Team Managers"...

    ...or part of the FIA?

    Same question about the F1 Commission.

    It's irrelevant. What that says is that "the F1 teams" said ending
    races under a green flag was desirable. This is something that we
    already knew and has no bearing on the gross incompetence Masi
    demonstrated in misapplication of the regulations.

    Your dishonest attempt to misrepresent that paragraph has already been debunked.
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  • From Martin Harran@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 23 18:50:49 2022
    On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 10:31:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 10:28 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:51:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:51 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:


    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf> >>>>>>>
    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL single-seat >>>>>>> racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever was >>>>>>> his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much
    damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive not to >>>>> tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    Ah!

    And suddenly you want to depend on something you can't support!

    Irony meters have just exploded all over the world.

    Not really.

    Yes, really. You regularly post stuff you can't support.


    I've provided support and reasonable inferences.


    Nope, you haven't provided support, you've supplied what *you* regard
    as "reasonable inferences" which nobody else in F1 sees for some weird
    reason (weird in your eyes that is)..
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  • From Martin Harran@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 23 18:53:48 2022
    On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 18:31:47 -0000 (UTC), "Bigbird" <bigbird.nospam.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:51 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:



    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf>

    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL
    single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever
    was his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much
    damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive
    not to tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    Ah!

    And suddenly you want to depend on something you can't support!


    Not at all.

    As usual you are dishonestly trying to misrepresent my comment.

    So have you or have you not heard of an NDA? and would or would not
    that be a way of keeping someone from speaking out after being sacked?


    You don't think he's been approached multiple times by motorsports
    journalists?

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    Don't you think that's odd?

    No. They clearly are trying to sweep their errors under the carpet.
    Doing anything else would be an overt admission that Masi
    effectively changed the result of the WDC and they have no remedy
    to that.

    And how does the report they released NOT admit that?

    Quote where you think it does.

    Now, now, you should know well that Alan is a great exponent of the
    'prove a negative' challenge.



    What they DON'T want to admit is the part that they played in it, so
    they talk about it only in the most oblique way.

    Well, let us know when you have an iota of evidence to support that lie.
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  • From Martin Harran@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 23 18:57:12 2022
    On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 12:33:38 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 11:31 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:51 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:



    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf> >>>>>>>
    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL
    single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever
    was his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much
    damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive
    not to tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    Ah!

    And suddenly you want to depend on something you can't support!


    Not at all.

    As usual you are dishonestly trying to misrepresent my comment.

    So have you or have you not heard of an NDA? and would or would not
    that be a way of keeping someone from speaking out after being sacked?

    You are implying that an NDA is involved...

    ...without any support for that at all...

    ...liar.



    You don't think he's been approached multiple times by motorsports
    journalists?

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    Don't you think that's odd?

    No. They clearly are trying to sweep their errors under the carpet.
    Doing anything else would be an overt admission that Masi
    effectively changed the result of the WDC and they have no remedy
    to that.

    And how does the report they released NOT admit that?

    Quote where you think it does.

    Right after your quote showing that there is an NDA involved, Liar.



    What they DON'T want to admit is the part that they played in it, so
    they talk about it only in the most oblique way.

    Well, let us know when you have an iota of evidence to support that lie.

    'It was also considered that the decisions regarding the safety car at
    the end of the 2021 Abu Dhabi GP likely took into account previous >discussions (including at meetings of the F1 SAC, the F1 Commission, and
    F1 Team Managers) that made clear the F1 teamsA preference to end races >under green flag racing conditions, rather than behind a safety car,
    when safe to do so.'


    How does that pressurise a RD into breaking rules as they have been consistently applied in the past?

    Is the "F1 SAC" a part of the "F1 Team Managers"...

    ...or part of the FIA?

    Same question about the F1 Commission.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Mar 23 16:48:17 2022
    On 2022-03-23 11:57 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 12:33:38 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 11:31 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:51 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:



    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf> >>>>>>>>
    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL
    single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever
    was his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much
    damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive
    not to tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    Ah!

    And suddenly you want to depend on something you can't support!


    Not at all.

    As usual you are dishonestly trying to misrepresent my comment.

    So have you or have you not heard of an NDA? and would or would not
    that be a way of keeping someone from speaking out after being sacked?

    You are implying that an NDA is involved...

    ...without any support for that at all...

    ...liar.



    You don't think he's been approached multiple times by motorsports >>>>>> journalists?

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    Don't you think that's odd?

    No. They clearly are trying to sweep their errors under the carpet.
    Doing anything else would be an overt admission that Masi
    effectively changed the result of the WDC and they have no remedy
    to that.

    And how does the report they released NOT admit that?

    Quote where you think it does.

    Right after your quote showing that there is an NDA involved, Liar.



    What they DON'T want to admit is the part that they played in it, so
    they talk about it only in the most oblique way.

    Well, let us know when you have an iota of evidence to support that lie.

    'It was also considered that the decisions regarding the safety car at
    the end of the 2021 Abu Dhabi GP likely took into account previous
    discussions (including at meetings of the F1 SAC, the F1 Commission, and
    F1 Team Managers) that made clear the F1 teamsrCO preference to end races
    under green flag racing conditions, rather than behind a safety car,
    when safe to do so.'


    How does that pressurise a RD into breaking rules as they have been consistently applied in the past?

    The FIA report says they had an effect.

    Do you deny that?

    If they had an effect, isn't there a reasonable inference that Masi
    acted in the way he believed his superiors wanted?


    Is the "F1 SAC" a part of the "F1 Team Managers"...

    ...or part of the FIA?

    Same question about the F1 Commission.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Mar 24 10:27:18 2022
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-23 11:57 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:

    'It was also considered that the decisions regarding the safety
    car at the end of the 2021 Abu Dhabi GP likely took into account
    previous discussions (including at meetings of the F1 SAC, the F1 Commission, and F1 Team Managers) that made clear the F1 teamsrCO preference to end races under green flag racing conditions,
    rather than behind a safety car, when safe to do so.'


    How does that pressurise a RD into breaking rules as they have been consistently applied in the past?

    The FIA report says they had an effect.

    Do you deny that?

    If they had an effect, isn't there a reasonable inference that Masi
    acted in the way he believed his superiors wanted?


    No; that is a rather inane non-sequitur.

    It suggests he was not up to the task of doing his job properly.
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  • From Martin Harran@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Mar 24 11:58:07 2022
    On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 16:48:17 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-03-23 11:57 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
    On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 12:33:38 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 11:31 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-22 2:51 a.m., Bigbird wrote:
    Alan wrote:

    On 2022-03-20 4:02 a.m., alister wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:58:11 -0700, Alan wrote:



    <https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/organigrammes_-_01_2021_0.pdf> >>>>>>>>>
    Michael Masi is now head of "Sporting Matters" for ALL
    single-seat racing.

    So he was so much the sole actor of last year...

    ...that the FIA has made him (at least) the boss of whomever >>>>>>>>> was his boss last year.

    Are you getting it yet?

    The Peter principle in action
    Promote him into a position where he cant actually do too much >>>>>>>> damage thus avoiding any claims for unfair dismissal.






    And buy his silence.

    Because if you actually sacked him, he'd have had no incentive
    not to tell his side of the story.


    Never heard of an NDA.

    Ah!

    And suddenly you want to depend on something you can't support!


    Not at all.

    As usual you are dishonestly trying to misrepresent my comment.

    So have you or have you not heard of an NDA? and would or would not
    that be a way of keeping someone from speaking out after being sacked?

    You are implying that an NDA is involved...

    ...without any support for that at all...

    ...liar.



    You don't think he's been approached multiple times by motorsports >>>>>>> journalists?

    Do you see any quotes from Masi?

    Don't you think that's odd?

    No. They clearly are trying to sweep their errors under the carpet. >>>>>> Doing anything else would be an overt admission that Masi
    effectively changed the result of the WDC and they have no remedy
    to that.

    And how does the report they released NOT admit that?

    Quote where you think it does.

    Right after your quote showing that there is an NDA involved, Liar.



    What they DON'T want to admit is the part that they played in it, so >>>>> they talk about it only in the most oblique way.

    Well, let us know when you have an iota of evidence to support that lie. >>>
    'It was also considered that the decisions regarding the safety car at
    the end of the 2021 Abu Dhabi GP likely took into account previous
    discussions (including at meetings of the F1 SAC, the F1 Commission, and >>> F1 Team Managers) that made clear the F1 teamsA preference to end races
    under green flag racing conditions, rather than behind a safety car,
    when safe to do so.'


    How does that pressurise a RD into breaking rules as they have been
    consistently applied in the past?

    The FIA report says they had an effect.

    Do you deny that?

    If they had an effect, isn't there a reasonable inference that Masi
    acted in the way he believed his superiors wanted?

    Your claims all along have been that Masi was *directly instructed* by "someone" above him to do what he did and the FIA have tried to cover
    it up by buying him off with another job. Are you now dropping those
    claims?



    Is the "F1 SAC" a part of the "F1 Team Managers"...

    ...or part of the FIA?

    Same question about the F1 Commission.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Mar 24 15:28:13 2022
    On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 5:58:10 AM UTC-6, martin...@gmail.com wrote:

    Your claims all along have been that Masi was *directly instructed* by "someone" above him to do what he did and the FIA have tried to cover
    it up by buying him off with another job. Are you now dropping those
    claims?

    Hey Harry Martin.
    Are you the new bigturd?
    Humping alans leg.
    Have some pride ffs
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