This single-seater was photographed in New Zealand during a British
'tour approx 1958/59. I had thought it was a Vanwall, but could it
be another marque or even another formula such F2? This is the
Facebook link to the photo: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10227248399857296&set=gm.2547582875374556
Thanks for any help.,
On 2/21/2022 4:42 PM, bra wrote:
This single-seater was photographed in New Zealand during a British
'tour approx 1958/59.-a I had thought it was a Vanwall, but could it
be another marque or even another formula such F2?-a This is the
Facebook link to the photo:
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10227248399857296&set=gm.2547582875374556
Thanks for any help.,
"Sorry, this content isn't available right now" - but almost certainly a Connaught.
There's nothing about racing in New Zealand in /Vanwall/ (Jenkinson & Posthumus) so no.
Ron Duncan raced an old Connaught A (F2) around New Zealand in at least
1958 and 1959 - he was DNS in the NZ GP both years.-a And in 1958 Roy Salvadori was campaigning a Connaught B (F1), finishing 5th in the NZ
GP.-a That's the type most likely to be mistaken for a Vanwall:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connaught_Engineering#/media/File:Beaulieu_National_Motor_Museum_Connaught_Type_B_(1955)_15-10-2011_13-10-02.png
On 2/21/2022 5:37 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
On 2/21/2022 4:42 PM, bra wrote:
This single-seater was photographed in New Zealand during a British
'tour approx 1958/59. I had thought it was a Vanwall, but could it
be another marque or even another formula such F2? This is the
Facebook link to the photo:
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10227248399857296&set=gm.2547582875374556
Thanks for any help.,
"Sorry, this content isn't available right now" - but almost certainly a Connaught.
There's nothing about racing in New Zealand in /Vanwall/ (Jenkinson & Posthumus) so no.
Ron Duncan raced an old Connaught A (F2) around New Zealand in at least 1958 and 1959 - he was DNS in the NZ GP both years. And in 1958 Roy Salvadori was campaigning a Connaught B (F1), finishing 5th in the NZ
GP. That's the type most likely to be mistaken for a Vanwall:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connaught_Engineering#/media/File:Beaulieu_National_Motor_Museum_Connaught_Type_B_(1955)_15-10-2011_13-10-02.png. . .although both types appeared in a variety of bodywork
configurations. Try Google image searches for connaught a and connaught b.
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On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 2:54:51 PM UTC-8, Mark Jackson wrote:
On 2/21/2022 5:37 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
On 2/21/2022 4:42 PM, bra wrote:. . .although both types appeared in a variety of bodywork
This single-seater was photographed in New Zealand during a British
'tour approx 1958/59. I had thought it was a Vanwall, but could it
be another marque or even another formula such F2? This is the
Facebook link to the photo:
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10227248399857296&set=gm.2547582875374556
Thanks for any help.,
"Sorry, this content isn't available right now" - but almost certainly a >>> Connaught.
There's nothing about racing in New Zealand in /Vanwall/ (Jenkinson &
Posthumus) so no.
Ron Duncan raced an old Connaught A (F2) around New Zealand in at least
1958 and 1959 - he was DNS in the NZ GP both years. And in 1958 Roy
Salvadori was campaigning a Connaught B (F1), finishing 5th in the NZ
GP. That's the type most likely to be mistaken for a Vanwall:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connaught_Engineering#/media/File:Beaulieu_National_Motor_Museum_Connaught_Type_B_(1955)_15-10-2011_13-10-02.png
configurations. Try Google image searches for connaught a and connaught b. >> --
Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
An object is a monotonous process.
- Nelson Goodman
I have tried Google for Vanwall and Connaught but no cars yet match.
This single-seater was photographed in New Zealand during a British 'tour approx 1958/59. I had thought it was a Vanwall, but could it be another marque or even another formula such F2? This is the Facebook link to the photo: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10227248399857296&set=gm.2547582875374556 Thanks for any help.,
This single-seater was photographed in New Zealand during a British 'tour approx 1958/59. I had thought it was a Vanwall, but could it be another marque or even another formula such F2? This is the Facebook link to the photo: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10227248399857296&set=gm.2547582875374556 Thanks for any help.,
On 2/21/2022 6:05 PM, bra wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 2:54:51 PM UTC-8, Mark Jackson wrote:
On 2/21/2022 5:37 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
On 2/21/2022 4:42 PM, bra wrote:. . .although both types appeared in a variety of bodywork
This single-seater was photographed in New Zealand during a British
'tour approx 1958/59.-a I had thought it was a Vanwall, but could it >>>>> be another marque or even another formula such F2?-a This is the
Facebook link to the photo:
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10227248399857296&set=gm.2547582875374556
Thanks for any help.,
"Sorry, this content isn't available right now" - but almost
certainly a
Connaught.
There's nothing about racing in New Zealand in /Vanwall/ (Jenkinson &
Posthumus) so no.
Ron Duncan raced an old Connaught A (F2) around New Zealand in at least >>>> 1958 and 1959 - he was DNS in the NZ GP both years.-a And in 1958 Roy
Salvadori was campaigning a Connaught B (F1), finishing 5th in the NZ
GP.-a That's the type most likely to be mistaken for a Vanwall:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connaught_Engineering#/media/File:Beaulieu_National_Motor_Museum_Connaught_Type_B_(1955)_15-10-2011_13-10-02.png
configurations. Try Google image searches for connaught a and
connaught b.
--
Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
An object is a monotonous process.
- Nelson Goodman
I have tried Google for Vanwall and Connaught but no cars yet match.
Do you have a working link to the image you asked about originally?
On 21/02/2022 21:42, bra wrote:My thanks to Brian, as always. However, photos are hard to find. With the bonnet and wheels off, it is even harder to identify. I had hoped it was a Connaught, but alas that was quite oddly distinctive and different.
This single-seater was photographed in New Zealand during a British 'tour approx 1958/59. I had thought it was a Vanwall, but could it be another marque or even another formula such F2? This is the Facebook link to the photo: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10227248399857296&set=gm.2547582875374556 Thanks for any help.,<https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/other1958.html> <https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/other1959.html>
<https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/otherraces.html>
<https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/nzmr.html>
On 21/02/2022 21:42, bra wrote:
This single-seater was photographed in New Zealand during a British 'tour approx 1958/59.-a I had
thought it was a Vanwall, but could it be another marque or even another formula such F2?-a This
is the Facebook link to the photo:
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10227248399857296&set=gm.2547582875374556-a Thanks for any
help.,
-a <https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/other1958.html>
-a <https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/other1959.html>
-a <https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/otherraces.html>
-a <https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/nzmr.html>
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 4:08:53 AM UTC-8, Brian Lawrence wrote:
On 21/02/2022 21:42, bra wrote:
This single-seater was photographed in New Zealand during a British 'tour approx 1958/59. I had thought it was a Vanwall, but could it be another marque or even another formula such F2? This is the Facebook link to the photo: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10227248399857296&set=gm.2547582875374556 Thanks for any help.,<https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/other1958.html>
<https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/other1959.html>
<https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/otherraces.html>
<https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/nzmr.html>
My thanks to Brian, as always. However, photos are hard to find. With the bonnet and wheels off, it is even harder to identify. I had hoped it was a Connaught, but alas that was quite oddly distinctive and different.
Since none of us has seen the photo it's hard to get any clues.
The original online source (not FB) could have something, can
you identify it.
On 2/23/2022 4:53 AM, Brian Lawrence wrote:
Since none of us has seen the photo it's hard to get any clues.
The original online source (not FB) could have something, can
you identify it.
The OP posted this link (subject: "Query Vanwall in NZ" repeat, with accessibe photo):
http://www.oldstox.com/images/query.jpg
With much of the bodywork removed it's not a great help.
There is book about the Connaughts which appears to have a list of
which chassis was used in which races.
'From Send to Syracuse: The History of Connaught', Graham & Duncan Rabagliati, 2018.
-a <https://formulaoneregister.com/product/history-of-connaught/>
Around -u50 from most sellers.
Connaughts in New Zealand (from the sergent.com website):
NZ Grand Prix, Ardmore, 11 Jan
Salvadori (B3) & Lewis-Evans (B7 Dart)
Levin International, Levin, 18 Jan 1958
Salvadori & Lewis-Evans
Wigram Trophy, Wigram Airfield, 25 Jan 1958
Lewis-Evans & Salvadori
We can assume that the same two chassis were used in all 3 events,
probably with the same numbers. The cars were then owned by Bernie Ecclestone.
The 'Dart' had diff. bodywork.
-a-a <https://www.slotforum.com/threads/connaught-dart.203253/>
On 27/02/2022 11:20, Brian Lawrence wrote:
There is book about the Connaughts which appears to have a list of
which chassis was used in which races.
'From Send to Syracuse: The History of Connaught', Graham & Duncan
Rabagliati, 2018.
-a-a <https://formulaoneregister.com/product/history-of-connaught/>
Around -u50 from most sellers.
Connaughts in New Zealand (from the sergent.com website):
NZ Grand Prix, Ardmore, 11 Jan
Salvadori (B3) & Lewis-Evans (B7 Dart)
There is a photo on this webpage:
-a-a-a http://www.pilotos-muertos.com/2009/Lewis-EvansStuart.html
That has the caption, 'Stuart Lewis-Evans with the 'toothpaste tube'
B-series at Ardmore in 1958.' His car carries no.3, suggesting that
the one with no.2 was Salvadori's. There is another car behind #3
which might be #2, the man without overalls may be Salvadori?.
On 2/28/2022 4:05 AM, Brian Lawrence wrote:
On 27/02/2022 11:20, Brian Lawrence wrote:
There is book about the Connaughts which appears to have a list of
which chassis was used in which races.
'From Send to Syracuse: The History of Connaught', Graham & Duncan
Rabagliati, 2018.
-a-a <https://formulaoneregister.com/product/history-of-connaught/>
Around -u50 from most sellers.
Thanks!-a I was unaware of this book and have ordered a copy from a US seller.
Connaughts in New Zealand (from the sergent.com website):
NZ Grand Prix, Ardmore, 11 Jan
Salvadori (B3) & Lewis-Evans (B7 Dart)
This looks like an error - multiple sources indicate B3 was rebuilt with
the "dart" body; I haven't found any source that says that happened to
B7.-a See below.
There is a photo on this webpage:
-a-a-a-a http://www.pilotos-muertos.com/2009/Lewis-EvansStuart.html
That has the caption, 'Stuart Lewis-Evans with the 'toothpaste tube'
B-series at Ardmore in 1958.' His car carries no.3, suggesting that
the one with no.2 was Salvadori's. There is another car behind #3
which might be #2, the man without overalls may be Salvadori?.
Nice photos.-a The paragraph below the Ardmore and Monaco pictures refers
to the dart-bodied car at Ardmore as B3.
Salvadori (B3) & Lewis-Evans (B7 Dart)
This looks like an error - multiple sources indicate B3 was rebuilt
with the "dart" body; I haven't found any source that says that
happened to B7.-a See below.
Yes there are contradictions, found this in a forum from 15+ years ago:
"B7
1956 works (Leston, possibly others). Sold to Scotti but returned to works 1957 works (Scott-Brown, Bueb)
Sold at auction to Ecclestone, and raced 1958 by Salvadori, Scott-Brown, Fairman
Through trade to Peter Brewer 1965-66
Alan McKechnie 1967-72 (raced by Keith Knight, Tony Hutchings, Ray Potter) 1973 Tony Mitchell (raced by Potter)
Subsequently owned by the late Paul Morgan of Ilmor fame and on
long-term display in Donington Collection
Elsewhere it says that Scotti's car was B6.
On 28/02/2022 17:28, Mark Jackson wrote:
On 2/28/2022 4:05 AM, Brian Lawrence wrote:
On 27/02/2022 11:20, Brian Lawrence wrote:
There is book about the Connaughts which appears to have a list of
which chassis was used in which races.
'From Send to Syracuse: The History of Connaught', Graham & Duncan
Rabagliati, 2018.
-a-a <https://formulaoneregister.com/product/history-of-connaught/>
Around -u50 from most sellers.
Thanks!-a I was unaware of this book and have ordered a copy from a US
seller.
Connaughts in New Zealand (from the sergent.com website):
NZ Grand Prix, Ardmore, 11 Jan
Salvadori (B3) & Lewis-Evans (B7 Dart)
This looks like an error - multiple sources indicate B3 was rebuilt
with the "dart" body; I haven't found any source that says that
happened to B7.-a See below.
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