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  • Mercedes have lodged a protest with the FIA

    From Brian Lawrence@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Dec 12 15:44:19 2021
    It's not over yet.
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  • From Brian Lawrence@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Dec 12 15:49:31 2021
    On 12/12/2021 15:44, Brian Lawrence wrote:

    It's not over yet.

    Make that two protests.
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  • From Mr Gobrien@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Dec 12 11:41:06 2021
    "It's not over yet."

    it is now - Verstappen's F1 world title stands after Mercedes protest rejected - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/54911288
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  • From Calum@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Dec 13 20:44:13 2021
    On 12/12/2021 19:41, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    "It's not over yet."

    it is now - Verstappen's F1 world title stands after Mercedes protest rejected - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/54911288

    It isn't, because Mercedes have stated their intention to appeal (and
    have another couple of days to actually do so).
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  • From Dan the Man@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 14 08:39:12 2021
    On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 3:44:16 PM UTC-5, Calum wrote:
    On 12/12/2021 19:41, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    "It's not over yet."

    it is now - Verstappen's F1 world title stands after Mercedes protest rejected - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/54911288
    It isn't, because Mercedes have stated their intention to appeal (and
    have another couple of days to actually do so).
    I'm sure Merc will take every avenue available to challenge this, but my experience is once a champion in any sport is crowned, it takes a LOT to remove that crown.
    See under "2017 Houston Astros".

    Dan
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  • From Mark@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 14 17:11:42 2021
    Dan the Man <dan708@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 3:44:16 PM UTC-5, Calum wrote:
    On 12/12/2021 19:41, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    "It's not over yet."

    it is now - Verstappen's F1 world title stands after Mercedes protest rejected - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/54911288
    It isn't, because Mercedes have stated their intention to appeal (and
    have another couple of days to actually do so).

    I'm sure Merc will take every avenue available to challenge this, but
    my experience is once a champion in any sport is crowned, it takes a
    LOT to remove that crown. See under "2017 Houston Astros".

    I tend to agree...but officially (de jure rather than de facto) he's not crowned until Thursday.
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Dec 15 09:32:59 2021
    On 15/12/2021 5:39 am, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 3:44:16 PM UTC-5, Calum wrote:
    On 12/12/2021 19:41, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    "It's not over yet."

    it is now - Verstappen's F1 world title stands after Mercedes protest rejected - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/54911288
    It isn't, because Mercedes have stated their intention to appeal (and
    have another couple of days to actually do so).
    I'm sure Merc will take every avenue available to challenge this, but my experience is once a champion in any sport is crowned, it takes a LOT to remove that crown.
    See under "2017 Houston Astros".

    Dan

    I don't think they want to change the WDC winner, but get
    acknowledgement that the ending was irregular if not illegal.

    geoff
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 14 12:40:41 2021
    On 2021-12-14 12:32 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 15/12/2021 5:39 am, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 3:44:16 PM UTC-5, Calum wrote:
    On 12/12/2021 19:41, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    "It's not over yet."

    it is now - Verstappen's F1 world title stands after Mercedes
    protest rejected - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/54911288
    It isn't, because Mercedes have stated their intention to appeal (and
    have another couple of days to actually do so).
    I'm sure Merc will take every avenue available to challenge this, but
    my experience is once a champion in any sport is crowned, it takes a
    LOT to remove that crown.
    See under "2017 Houston Astros".

    Dan

    I don't think they want to change the WDC winner, but get
    acknowledgement that the ending was irregular if not illegal.

    "Irregular"? Certainly.

    But you know who it didn't seem to bother in the least?

    Lewis Hamilton.

    He complained about his bad luck.

    He complained about the speed of the safety car.

    When told they'd be letting the lapped traffic (5 of them, anyway) through:

    Nothing.

    When they told him the safety car was coming in on that same lap:

    Nothing.

    Nothing at all...

    ...until AFTER he'd failed to defend the inside and lost the lead...

    ...until AFTER he didn't overtake at the only remaining legitimate
    overtaking opportunities...

    ...and then suddenly it was "manipulated".
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 14 20:55:13 2021
    Alan wrote:

    On 2021-12-14 12:32 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 15/12/2021 5:39 am, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 3:44:16 PM UTC-5, Calum wrote:
    On 12/12/2021 19:41, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    "It's not over yet."

    it is now - Verstappen's F1 world title stands after Mercedes
    protest rejected - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/54911288
    It isn't, because Mercedes have stated their intention to
    appeal (and have another couple of days to actually do so).
    I'm sure Merc will take every avenue available to challenge this,
    but my experience is once a champion in any sport is crowned, it
    takes a LOT to remove that crown. See under "2017 Houston
    Astros".

    Dan

    I don't think they want to change the WDC winner, but get
    acknowledgement that the ending was irregular if not illegal.

    "Irregular"? Certainly.

    But you know who it didn't seem to bother in the least?

    Lewis Hamilton.

    He complained about his bad luck.

    He complained about the speed of the safety car.

    When told they'd be letting the lapped traffic (5 of them, anyway)
    through:

    Nothing.

    When they told him the safety car was coming in on that same lap:

    Nothing.

    Nothing at all...

    ...until AFTER he'd failed to defend the inside and lost the lead...

    ...until AFTER he didn't overtake at the only remaining legitimate
    overtaking opportunities...

    ...and then suddenly it was "manipulated".

    Do you think perhaps he had other things on his mind than trying to
    recall the wording of section 48.12 of the Sporting code?

    Any spark of intelligence you have ever shown seems to have been
    extinguished.

    There is no argument. You are drowning; I am just describing the water.

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