The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
Why it was wrong.
39.12 If the clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the
message "LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE" has been sent to all Competitors
via the official messaging system, any cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety
car.
This will only apply to cars that were lapped at the time they crossed
the Line at the end of the lap during which they crossed the first
Safety Car line for the second time after the safety car was deployed.
On 2021-12-12 9:43 AM, Bigbird wrote:
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
I'm sure Masi is a nice guy. It might be fun to have a beer with him.
And I'm also sure that he is under considerable pressure with various
team managers in his ear.
But it seems to me that he has made a number of questionable decisions
this past year that suggest he might not be best suited to the job of
race director. Spa, certainly. Today as well.
whatever decision was made this would not have ended quietly
In article <sp55li$1eg$2@gioia.aioe.org>, alister.ware@ntlworld.com
says...
whatever decision was made this would not have ended quietlyUnfortunately, he chose an option that at first glance does not appear
to have been available to him. And it was an option that made Max's
victory a near certainty. All other options (all the obviously legal
ones) would have resulted in a Lewis win.
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 15:11:50 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
Why it was wrong.
39.12 If the clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the
message "LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE" has been sent to all Competitors
via the official messaging system, any cars that have been lapped by
the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the
safety car.
This will only apply to cars that were lapped at the time they crossed
the Line at the end of the lap during which they crossed the first
Safety Car line for the second time after the safety car was deployed.
Also as quoted by the commentary team, "When ALL lapped cars have passed
The safety care will come in at the end of the FOLLOWING LAP".
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 10:40:59 -0500, Darryl Johnson wrote:
On 2021-12-12 9:43 AM, Bigbird wrote:
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
I'm sure Masi is a nice guy. It might be fun to have a beer with
him.
And I'm also sure that he is under considerable pressure with
various team managers in his ear.
But it seems to me that he has made a number of questionable
decisions this past year that suggest he might not be best suited
to the job of race director. Spa, certainly. Today as well.
I think he felt he was between a rock & a hard place
of he had finished under the saftey car many would have called foul,
like wise if he had left cars between Lewis & Max
whatever decision was made this would not have ended quietly
alister wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 10:40:59 -0500, Darryl Johnson wrote:
On 2021-12-12 9:43 AM, Bigbird wrote:
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
I'm sure Masi is a nice guy. It might be fun to have a beer with him.
And I'm also sure that he is under considerable pressure with various
team managers in his ear.
But it seems to me that he has made a number of questionable
decisions this past year that suggest he might not be best suited to
the job of race director. Spa, certainly. Today as well.
I think he felt he was between a rock & a hard place of he had finished
under the saftey car many would have called foul,
like wise if he had left cars between Lewis & Max
whatever decision was made this would not have ended quietly
If he had finished under the SC it would not have been ideal but it
would have been normal procedure and he could not have been accused of personally influencing the outcome of the championship.
It cannot be helped that the SC procedure negates a 12 second lead but
to ignore the regs in order to give a driver an unwarranted advantage
needs to be addressed.
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 16:20:06 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
alister wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 10:40:59 -0500, Darryl Johnson wrote:
On 2021-12-12 9:43 AM, Bigbird wrote:
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
I'm sure Masi is a nice guy. It might be fun to have a beer with him.
And I'm also sure that he is under considerable pressure with various
team managers in his ear.
But it seems to me that he has made a number of questionable
decisions this past year that suggest he might not be best suited to
the job of race director. Spa, certainly. Today as well.
I think he felt he was between a rock & a hard place of he had finished
under the saftey car many would have called foul,
like wise if he had left cars between Lewis & Max
whatever decision was made this would not have ended quietly
If he had finished under the SC it would not have been ideal but it
would have been normal procedure and he could not have been accused of
personally influencing the outcome of the championship.
It cannot be helped that the SC procedure negates a 12 second lead but
to ignore the regs in order to give a driver an unwarranted advantage
needs to be addressed.
I don't think I am in anyway disagreeing with you. the 2021 championship
is now seriously tarnished.
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 16:28:15 -0000 (UTC), alister
<alister.ware@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 16:20:06 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
alister wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 10:40:59 -0500, Darryl Johnson wrote:
On 2021-12-12 9:43 AM, Bigbird wrote:
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
I'm sure Masi is a nice guy. It might be fun to have a beer with him. >>>>>
And I'm also sure that he is under considerable pressure with various >>>>> team managers in his ear.
But it seems to me that he has made a number of questionable
decisions this past year that suggest he might not be best suited to >>>>> the job of race director. Spa, certainly. Today as well.
I think he felt he was between a rock & a hard place of he had finished >>>> under the saftey car many would have called foul,
like wise if he had left cars between Lewis & Max
whatever decision was made this would not have ended quietly
If he had finished under the SC it would not have been ideal but it
would have been normal procedure and he could not have been accused of
personally influencing the outcome of the championship.
It cannot be helped that the SC procedure negates a 12 second lead but
to ignore the regs in order to give a driver an unwarranted advantage
needs to be addressed.
I don't think I am in anyway disagreeing with you. the 2021 championship
is now seriously tarnished.
It has been a fantastic battle between Ham and Ver all season and I
think most people (the sensible ones anyway) felt that whichever of
them finished up WDC would be a worthy winner. It's sad that instead
of arguing about what the two drivers did and didn't do, we are now
arguing about what the race director did and didn't do :(
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 6:43:39 AM UTC-8, Bigbird wrote:
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
Guess even the FIA couldn't stomach having the season end under a
safety car. They had already given The Chosen One a huge break at
the start of the race.
On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 6:43:39 AM UTC-8, Bigbird wrote:
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
Guess even the FIA couldn't stomach having the season end under a safety car. They had already given The Chosen One a huge break at the start of the race.
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 10:40:59 -0500, Darryl Johnson wrote:
On 2021-12-12 9:43 AM, Bigbird wrote:
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
I'm sure Masi is a nice guy. It might be fun to have a beer with him.
And I'm also sure that he is under considerable pressure with various
team managers in his ear.
But it seems to me that he has made a number of questionable decisions
this past year that suggest he might not be best suited to the job of
race director. Spa, certainly. Today as well.
I think he felt he was between a rock & a hard place
of he had finished under the saftey car many would have called foul, like wise if he had left cars between Lewis & Max
whatever decision was made this would not have ended quietly
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 16:20:06 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
alister wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 10:40:59 -0500, Darryl Johnson wrote:
On 2021-12-12 9:43 AM, Bigbird wrote:
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
I'm sure Masi is a nice guy. It might be fun to have a beer with him.
And I'm also sure that he is under considerable pressure with various
team managers in his ear.
But it seems to me that he has made a number of questionable
decisions this past year that suggest he might not be best suited to
the job of race director. Spa, certainly. Today as well.
I think he felt he was between a rock & a hard place of he had finished
under the saftey car many would have called foul,
like wise if he had left cars between Lewis & Max
whatever decision was made this would not have ended quietly
If he had finished under the SC it would not have been ideal but it
would have been normal procedure and he could not have been accused of
personally influencing the outcome of the championship.
It cannot be helped that the SC procedure negates a 12 second lead but
to ignore the regs in order to give a driver an unwarranted advantage
needs to be addressed.
I don't think I am in anyway disagreeing with you. the 2021 championship
is now seriously tarnished.
Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 16:28:15 -0000 (UTC), alister
<alister.ware@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 16:20:06 -0000 (UTC), Bigbird wrote:
alister wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 10:40:59 -0500, Darryl Johnson wrote:
On 2021-12-12 9:43 AM, Bigbird wrote:
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
I'm sure Masi is a nice guy. It might be fun to have a beer with him. >>>>>>
And I'm also sure that he is under considerable pressure with various >>>>>> team managers in his ear.
But it seems to me that he has made a number of questionable
decisions this past year that suggest he might not be best suited to >>>>>> the job of race director. Spa, certainly. Today as well.
I think he felt he was between a rock & a hard place of he had finished >>>>> under the saftey car many would have called foul,
like wise if he had left cars between Lewis & Max
whatever decision was made this would not have ended quietly
If he had finished under the SC it would not have been ideal but it
would have been normal procedure and he could not have been accused of >>>> personally influencing the outcome of the championship.
It cannot be helped that the SC procedure negates a 12 second lead but >>>> to ignore the regs in order to give a driver an unwarranted advantage
needs to be addressed.
I don't think I am in anyway disagreeing with you. the 2021 championship >>> is now seriously tarnished.
It has been a fantastic battle between Ham and Ver all season and I
think most people (the sensible ones anyway) felt that whichever of
them finished up WDC would be a worthy winner. It's sad that instead
of arguing about what the two drivers did and didn't do, we are now
arguing about what the race director did and didn't do :(
Indeed, although in this case I donrCOt think there is much to argue about - the race director made a decision which was in contravention of the rules
and an injustice resulted. Masi should resign.
On 13/12/2021 4:49 am, alister wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 10:40:59 -0500, Darryl Johnson wrote:
On 2021-12-12 9:43 AM, Bigbird wrote:
The FIA have out done themselves this season.
Their most consistent trait is making controversial decisions.
I'm sure Masi is a nice guy. It might be fun to have a beer with him.
And I'm also sure that he is under considerable pressure with various
team managers in his ear.
But it seems to me that he has made a number of questionable decisions
this past year that suggest he might not be best suited to the job of
race director. Spa, certainly. Today as well.
I think he felt he was between a rock & a hard place
of he had finished under the saftey car many would have called foul, like
wise if he had left cars between Lewis & Max
whatever decision was made this would not have ended quietly
I don't know why so many people are against the race ending under the
safety car. It in no way undoes all of the racing that has gone on beforehand that got the cars to where they are in the race order.
In fact I DO know why! It's about spectacle, not sport.
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