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  • 2021 SAUDI ARABIA DOTD

    From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Dec 5 11:41:44 2021
    Esteban Ocon.
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  • From Geoff May@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Dec 5 19:45:21 2021
    On 05/12/2021 19:41, build wrote:
    Esteban Ocon.

    The marshals. They were a bit brave about running onto the track to
    clean up.

    Maybe too brave ...

    Cheers

    Geoff
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Dec 5 11:46:43 2021
    On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 6:45:25 AM UTC+11, Geoff May wrote:
    On 05/12/2021 19:41, build wrote:
    Esteban Ocon.

    The marshals. They were a bit brave about running onto the track to
    clean up.

    Maybe too brave ...

    Cheers

    Geoff

    thanks for that OH&S report.
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Dec 5 11:54:41 2021
    On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 6:41:45 AM UTC+11, build wrote:
    Esteban Ocon.

    I just heard who was the official DOTD. Poetic.

    build
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Dec 5 19:58:19 2021
    build wrote:

    On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 6:41:45 AM UTC+11, build wrote:
    Esteban Ocon.

    I just heard who was the official DOTD. Poetic.


    If you are a limerick lover.
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  • From XYXPDQ@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Dec 5 12:52:54 2021
    On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 11:41:45 AM UTC-8, build wrote:
    Esteban Ocon.

    Agree, Ocon had a fine race.

    Hamilton gets the entitled wrecking ball award.
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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Dec 6 17:34:00 2021
    On 6/12/2021 9:52 am, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 11:41:45 AM UTC-8, build wrote:
    Esteban Ocon.

    Agree, Ocon had a fine race.

    Hamilton gets the entitled wrecking ball award.

    So Max gets the DotD award even though telemetry shows he did in fact 'brake check' Lewis* (69 Bar
    brake pressure and 2.4G deceleration) causing the collision (wrecking ball?).

    * https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-verstappen-handed-further-10-second-penalty-for-lap-37-collision.7GGfMvAnRIGPtMQphh7zCd.html
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

    This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.
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  • From Matt Larkin@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Dec 6 00:34:34 2021
    On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 04:34:04 UTC, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 6/12/2021 9:52 am, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 11:41:45 AM UTC-8, build wrote:
    Esteban Ocon.

    Agree, Ocon had a fine race.

    Hamilton gets the entitled wrecking ball award.
    So Max gets the DotD award even though telemetry shows he did in fact 'brake check' Lewis* (69 Bar
    brake pressure and 2.4G deceleration) causing the collision (wrecking ball?).

    * https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-verstappen-handed-further-10-second-penalty-for-lap-37-collision.7GGfMvAnRIGPtMQphh7zCd.html
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

    This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.
    If I'm feeling very charitable, I can argue that it's not a brake check so much as a "forcing the issue"
    braking - i.e. to force Lewis to go by at a convenient spot to allow the DRS tactic to come off.

    A classic "brake check" is a little bit different.

    Nonetheless, stewards thought it dangerous and that feels right.

    Dr Marko's statements post race that Max did nothing different seem a little "unbelieveble" now.
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  • From Martin Harran@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Dec 6 09:35:14 2021
    On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 17:34:00 +1300, ~misfit~
    <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/12/2021 9:52 am, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 11:41:45 AM UTC-8, build wrote:
    Esteban Ocon.

    Agree, Ocon had a fine race.

    Hamilton gets the entitled wrecking ball award.

    So Max gets the DotD award even though telemetry shows he did in fact 'brake check' Lewis* (69 Bar
    brake pressure and 2.4G deceleration) causing the collision (wrecking ball?).

    * >https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-verstappen-handed-further-10-second-penalty-for-lap-37-collision.7GGfMvAnRIGPtMQphh7zCd.html


    DOTD for Max is beyond ridiculous. I think overall, there was rough
    justice - whatever the arguments about individual incidents, there is
    no way that Max would have deserved to go 15 points ahead after that
    race.
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  • From Alan@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Dec 6 10:23:00 2021
    On 2021-12-05 8:34 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 6/12/2021 9:52 am, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 11:41:45 AM UTC-8, build wrote:
    Esteban Ocon.

    Agree, Ocon had a fine race.

    Hamilton gets the entitled wrecking ball award.

    So Max gets the DotD award even though telemetry shows he did in fact
    'brake check' Lewis* (69 Bar brake pressure and 2.4G deceleration)
    causing the collision (wrecking ball?).

    * https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-verstappen-handed-further-10-second-penalty-for-lap-37-collision.7GGfMvAnRIGPtMQphh7zCd.html


    And rightly so, too.
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