https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as particularly useful.
-aI guess we'll see. . . .
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as particularly useful.
-aI guess we'll see. . . .
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as particularly
useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified marshals.
What an odd layout.
Wasn't there a track like that in Germany once?
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as particularly
useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required?
On 12/1/2021 8:29 PM, D Munz wrote:
What an odd layout.
Wasn't there a track like that in Germany once?Are you thinking of the late-1930s configuration of AVUS?
https://www.racingcircuits.info/europe/germany/avus.html#.Yag2WrpOmwU
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as particularly
useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required?
Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
Your Miata entry refused?
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as particularly useful.
-aI guess we'll see. . . .
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as particularly
useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required?
Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for international travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in late-March/early-April...
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like to enter the
FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as particularly
useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required?
Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for international travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in late-March/early-April...
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like to enter
the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as particularly >>>>>>> useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required?
Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for international travel. >>>
And racing for me resumes some time in late-March/early-April...
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like to enter
the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission...
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA FF Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of amateur road racing in North America.
On 12/3/2021 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as particularly >>>>>>>> useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required?
Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for international
travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in late-March/early-April...
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like to enter
the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission...
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA FF Runoffs
champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of amateur
road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
On 2021-12-03 12:22 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as
particularly useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified marshals. >>>>>>>
Did get told that your services were no longer required?
Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for international
travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in late-March/early-April...
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like to
enter the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission...
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA FF Runoffs
champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of amateur
road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third year of racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple fact is that
I'm faster than he's ever been there.
On 12/3/2021 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 12:22 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as
particularly useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified marshals. >>>>>>>>
Did get told that your services were no longer required?
Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for international
travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in late-March/early-April...
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like to
enter the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission...
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA FF Runoffs
champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of amateur
road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third year of racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple fact is that
I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, so... keep
huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has competed there.
On 2021-12-03 1:48 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 12:22 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as
particularly useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified marshals. >>>>>>>>>
Did get told that your services were no longer required?
Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for international >>>>>>> travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in late-March/early-April... >>>>>>>
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like to
enter the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission...
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA FF
Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of amateur
road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third year of racing. >>>
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple fact is that
I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, so... keep
huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has competed there.
So you think he's magically a worse driver when he drives here in
Mission than he was at the Runoffs, Pipsqueak?
It's the simple transitive property.
If A is faster than B, and B is faster than C...
On 12/3/2021 8:00 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 1:48 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 12:22 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as
particularly useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified marshals. >>>>>>>>>>
Did get told that your services were no longer required?
Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for international >>>>>>>> travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in late-March/early-April... >>>>>>>>
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like to >>>>>>>> enter the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission...
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA FF
Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of amateur >>>>>> road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third year of
racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple fact is
that I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, so... keep
huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has competed there.
So you think he's magically a worse driver when he drives here in
Mission than he was at the Runoffs, Pipsqueak?
It's the simple transitive property.
If A is faster than B, and B is faster than C...
So show up, or shut up, duffer.
On 2021-12-03 11:58 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 8:00 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 1:48 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 12:22 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as >>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified >>>>>>>>>>>> marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required?
Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for
international travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in late-March/early-April... >>>>>>>>>
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like to >>>>>>>>> enter the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission...
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA FF
Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of
amateur road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third year of
racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple fact is
that I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, so... keep
huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has competed there.
So you think he's magically a worse driver when he drives here in
Mission than he was at the Runoffs, Pipsqueak?
It's the simple transitive property.
If A is faster than B, and B is faster than C...
So show up, or shut up, duffer.
I do show up.
I show up and I'm currently the second fastest every at my circuit...
...including the 2015 SCCA Runoffs Champion.
What's your best lap?
Oh, right!
On 12/4/2021 3:04 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 11:58 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 8:00 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 1:48 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 12:22 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . .
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified >>>>>>>>>>>>> marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required? >>>>>>>>>>>
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for
international travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in late-March/early-April... >>>>>>>>>>
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like to >>>>>>>>>> enter the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission...
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA FF
Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of
amateur road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third year of
racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple fact is
that I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, so... keep >>>>> huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has competed there.
So you think he's magically a worse driver when he drives here in
Mission than he was at the Runoffs, Pipsqueak?
It's the simple transitive property.
If A is faster than B, and B is faster than C...
So show up, or shut up, duffer.
I do show up.
I show up and I'm currently the second fastest every at my circuit...
...including the 2015 SCCA Runoffs Champion.
What's your best lap?
Oh, right!
"It's the simple transitive property."-a You'll never get there.
"Oh, right!"-a An arrive and drive 1:13.2 at Bryar in a DP Lotus Europa.
So show up at the Runoffs you huff about, transitively, or shut up.
I'm faster at our track than a driver who actually won the SCCA Runoffs
in the same class.
On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 2:44:51 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
I'm faster at our track than a driver who actually won the SCCA Runoffs
in the same class.
but still a piece of shit human being
Turns one and maybe four look passable but the rest looks like follow the leader (for equivalent cars).
On 2021-12-04 12:47 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/4/2021 3:04 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 11:58 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 8:00 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 1:48 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:So you think he's magically a worse driver when he drives here in
On 2021-12-03 12:22 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified >>>>>>>>>>>>>> marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required? >>>>>>>>>>>>
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for
international travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in late-March/early-April... >>>>>>>>>>>
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like >>>>>>>>>>> to enter the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission...
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA FF >>>>>>>>> Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of
amateur road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third year of >>>>>>> racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple fact is >>>>>>> that I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, so...
keep huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has competed there. >>>>>
Mission than he was at the Runoffs, Pipsqueak?
It's the simple transitive property.
If A is faster than B, and B is faster than C...
So show up, or shut up, duffer.
I do show up.
I show up and I'm currently the second fastest every at my circuit...
...including the 2015 SCCA Runoffs Champion.
What's your best lap?
Oh, right!
"It's the simple transitive property."-a You'll never get there.
"Oh, right!"-a An arrive and drive 1:13.2 at Bryar in a DP Lotus Europa.
So show up at the Runoffs you huff about, transitively, or shut up.
So a circuit that closed more than 30 years ago.
What was the D Production lap record?
And since it was just a club meeting, does it even matter?
Fact:
I'm faster at our track than a driver who actually won the SCCA Runoffs
in the same class.
That's just the fact, Pipsqueak.
And it galls you, doesn't it?
:-)
On 12/4/2021 4:44 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-04 12:47 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/4/2021 3:04 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 11:58 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 8:00 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 1:48 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 12:22 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for
international travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in
late-March/early-April...
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like >>>>>>>>>>>> to enter the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission...
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA FF >>>>>>>>>> Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of >>>>>>>>>> amateur road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third year of >>>>>>>> racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple fact is >>>>>>>> that I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, so...
keep huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has competed
there.
So you think he's magically a worse driver when he drives here in >>>>>> Mission than he was at the Runoffs, Pipsqueak?
It's the simple transitive property.
If A is faster than B, and B is faster than C...
So show up, or shut up, duffer.
I do show up.
I show up and I'm currently the second fastest every at my circuit...
...including the 2015 SCCA Runoffs Champion.
What's your best lap?
Oh, right!
"It's the simple transitive property."-a You'll never get there.
"Oh, right!"-a An arrive and drive 1:13.2 at Bryar in a DP Lotus Europa. >>>
So show up at the Runoffs you huff about, transitively, or shut up.
So a circuit that closed more than 30 years ago.
What was the D Production lap record?
And since it was just a club meeting, does it even matter?
Fact:
I'm faster at our track than a driver who actually won the SCCA
Runoffs in the same class.
That's just the fact, Pipsqueak.
And it galls you, doesn't it?
:-)
"Transitive", my ass. Faster than an aged-out Runoffs Champion.
"Galls" me? Reeling you in after you take the bait makes me LMAO.
"Wace dwiber."
On 2021-12-06 6:04 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/4/2021 4:44 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-04 12:47 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/4/2021 3:04 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 11:58 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 8:00 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 1:48 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 12:22 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for
international travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in
late-March/early-April...
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely like >>>>>>>>>>>>> to enter the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix.
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission...
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA FF >>>>>>>>>>> Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of >>>>>>>>>>> amateur road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third year >>>>>>>>> of racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple fact >>>>>>>>> is that I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, so... >>>>>>>> keep huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has competed >>>>>>>> there.
So you think he's magically a worse driver when he drives here in >>>>>>> Mission than he was at the Runoffs, Pipsqueak?
It's the simple transitive property.
If A is faster than B, and B is faster than C...
So show up, or shut up, duffer.
I do show up.
I show up and I'm currently the second fastest every at my circuit... >>>>>
...including the 2015 SCCA Runoffs Champion.
What's your best lap?
Oh, right!
"It's the simple transitive property."-a You'll never get there.
"Oh, right!"-a An arrive and drive 1:13.2 at Bryar in a DP Lotus Europa. >>>>
So show up at the Runoffs you huff about, transitively, or shut up.
So a circuit that closed more than 30 years ago.
What was the D Production lap record?
And since it was just a club meeting, does it even matter?
Fact:
I'm faster at our track than a driver who actually won the SCCA
Runoffs in the same class.
That's just the fact, Pipsqueak.
And it galls you, doesn't it?
:-)
"Transitive", my ass. Faster than an aged-out Runoffs Champion.
So he won in 2015 and when exactly did he "age out"?
He and I are almost exactly the same age, BTW. I can't remember if he's
a year older or a year younger.
"Galls" me? Reeling you in after you take the bait makes me LMAO.
"Wace dwiber."
Yup. It quite obviously galls you.
Interesting that you didn't tell us what the lap record for D Production
at Bryar was...
...or whether it was just a club meeting.
So, what was the lap record at Bryar for D Production?
On 12/6/2021 12:25 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-06 6:04 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/4/2021 4:44 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-04 12:47 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/4/2021 3:04 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 11:58 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 8:00 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 1:48 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 12:22 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> international travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in
late-March/early-April...
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to enter the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission... >>>>>>>>>>>>
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA FF >>>>>>>>>>>> Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of >>>>>>>>>>>> amateur road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third year >>>>>>>>>> of racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple fact >>>>>>>>>> is that I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, so... >>>>>>>>> keep huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has competed >>>>>>>>> there.
So you think he's magically a worse driver when he drives here >>>>>>>> in Mission than he was at the Runoffs, Pipsqueak?
It's the simple transitive property.
If A is faster than B, and B is faster than C...
So show up, or shut up, duffer.
I do show up.
I show up and I'm currently the second fastest every at my circuit... >>>>>>
...including the 2015 SCCA Runoffs Champion.
What's your best lap?
Oh, right!
"It's the simple transitive property."-a You'll never get there.
"Oh, right!"-a An arrive and drive 1:13.2 at Bryar in a DP Lotus
Europa.
So show up at the Runoffs you huff about, transitively, or shut up.
So a circuit that closed more than 30 years ago.
What was the D Production lap record?
And since it was just a club meeting, does it even matter?
Fact:
I'm faster at our track than a driver who actually won the SCCA
Runoffs in the same class.
That's just the fact, Pipsqueak.
And it galls you, doesn't it?
:-)
"Transitive", my ass. Faster than an aged-out Runoffs Champion.
So he won in 2015 and when exactly did he "age out"?
He and I are almost exactly the same age, BTW. I can't remember if
he's a year older or a year younger.
"Galls" me? Reeling you in after you take the bait makes me LMAO.
"Wace dwiber."
Yup. It quite obviously galls you.
Interesting that you didn't tell us what the lap record for D
Production at Bryar was...
...or whether it was just a club meeting.
So, what was the lap record at Bryar for D Production?
I have no idea what was the DP lap record in the original Bryar track configuration, nor was anyone shooting for one in a Thursday 'arrive and drive' practice.
For reference, the 1972 Bryar Trans Am Under 2.5 pole was 1:16.0, and
the fast race lap was 1:17.5, while the IMSA Three-Hour Under pole was 1:14.3, both on the original Bryar track configuration.
Transitive and gall-worthy, huh!
On 2021-12-06 10:25 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/6/2021 12:25 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-06 6:04 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/4/2021 4:44 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-04 12:47 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/4/2021 3:04 AM, Alan wrote:So a circuit that closed more than 30 years ago.
On 2021-12-03 11:58 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 8:00 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 1:48 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 4:32 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 12:22 p.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 2:12 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-03 10:38 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/3/2021 1:15 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-02 6:24 a.m., News wrote:
On 12/1/2021 9:42 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-01 11:32 a.m., News wrote:Wouldn't work in the KSA on a bet.
On 12/1/2021 2:13 PM, Mark Jackson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2021%20Saudi%20Arabian%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Circuit%20Map.pdf
Three (!) DRS zones, and none of them strikes me as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly useful. -a-aI guess we'll see. . . . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Good luck staffing that number of posts with qualified >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marshals.
Awwww.... ...is Mr. Grumpy Pants angry?
Did get told that your services were no longer required? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Your Miata entry refused?
I'm in North America and it's not a great time for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> international travel.
And racing for me resumes some time in
late-March/early-April...
...in my 1998 RF98-2 Van Diemen Honda FF...
...as always.
If time and circumstances allow though, I'd definitely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to enter the FF race at the Canadian Grand Prix. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
:-)
Hopium isn't a strategy, wannabe 'wace dwiber'
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission... >>>>>>>>>>>>>
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA >>>>>>>>>>>>> FF Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of >>>>>>>>>>>>> amateur road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third year >>>>>>>>>>> of racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple fact >>>>>>>>>>> is that I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, so... >>>>>>>>>> keep huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has competed >>>>>>>>>> there.
So you think he's magically a worse driver when he drives here >>>>>>>>> in Mission than he was at the Runoffs, Pipsqueak?
It's the simple transitive property.
If A is faster than B, and B is faster than C...
So show up, or shut up, duffer.
I do show up.
I show up and I'm currently the second fastest every at my
circuit...
...including the 2015 SCCA Runoffs Champion.
What's your best lap?
Oh, right!
"It's the simple transitive property."-a You'll never get there.
"Oh, right!"-a An arrive and drive 1:13.2 at Bryar in a DP Lotus
Europa.
So show up at the Runoffs you huff about, transitively, or shut up. >>>>>
What was the D Production lap record?
And since it was just a club meeting, does it even matter?
Fact:
I'm faster at our track than a driver who actually won the SCCA
Runoffs in the same class.
That's just the fact, Pipsqueak.
And it galls you, doesn't it?
:-)
"Transitive", my ass. Faster than an aged-out Runoffs Champion.
So he won in 2015 and when exactly did he "age out"?
He and I are almost exactly the same age, BTW. I can't remember if
he's a year older or a year younger.
"Galls" me? Reeling you in after you take the bait makes me LMAO.
"Wace dwiber."
Yup. It quite obviously galls you.
Interesting that you didn't tell us what the lap record for D
Production at Bryar was...
...or whether it was just a club meeting.
So, what was the lap record at Bryar for D Production?
I have no idea what was the DP lap record in the original Bryar track
configuration, nor was anyone shooting for one in a Thursday 'arrive
and drive' practice.
Oh... ....so it was just practice. Got it.
Did you ever actually race... ...anything?
For reference, the 1972 Bryar Trans Am Under 2.5 pole was 1:16.0, and
the fast race lap was 1:17.5, while the IMSA Three-Hour Under pole was
1:14.3, both on the original Bryar track configuration.
Transitive and gall-worthy, huh!
Not really.
So a circuit that closed more than 30 years ago.It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FF Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> amateur road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third >>>>>>>>>>>> year of racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple >>>>>>>>>>>> fact is that I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, >>>>>>>>>>> so... keep huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has >>>>>>>>>>> competed there.
So you think he's magically a worse driver when he drives here >>>>>>>>>> in Mission than he was at the Runoffs, Pipsqueak?
It's the simple transitive property.
If A is faster than B, and B is faster than C...
So show up, or shut up, duffer.
I do show up.
I show up and I'm currently the second fastest every at my
circuit...
...including the 2015 SCCA Runoffs Champion.
What's your best lap?
Oh, right!
"It's the simple transitive property."-a You'll never get there. >>>>>>>
"Oh, right!"-a An arrive and drive 1:13.2 at Bryar in a DP Lotus >>>>>>> Europa.
So show up at the Runoffs you huff about, transitively, or shut up. >>>>>>
What was the D Production lap record?
And since it was just a club meeting, does it even matter?
Fact:
I'm faster at our track than a driver who actually won the SCCA
Runoffs in the same class.
That's just the fact, Pipsqueak.
And it galls you, doesn't it?
:-)
"Transitive", my ass. Faster than an aged-out Runoffs Champion.
So he won in 2015 and when exactly did he "age out"?
He and I are almost exactly the same age, BTW. I can't remember if
he's a year older or a year younger.
"Galls" me? Reeling you in after you take the bait makes me LMAO.
"Wace dwiber."
Yup. It quite obviously galls you.
Interesting that you didn't tell us what the lap record for D
Production at Bryar was...
...or whether it was just a club meeting.
So, what was the lap record at Bryar for D Production?
I have no idea what was the DP lap record in the original Bryar track
configuration, nor was anyone shooting for one in a Thursday 'arrive
and drive' practice.
Oh... ....so it was just practice. Got it.
Did you ever actually race... ...anything?
What did I need to prove, with that second lap of three?
It's 'transitive', baby!
For reference, the 1972 Bryar Trans Am Under 2.5 pole was 1:16.0, and
the fast race lap was 1:17.5, while the IMSA Three-Hour Under pole
was 1:14.3, both on the original Bryar track configuration.
Transitive and gall-worthy, huh!
Not really.
Yeah, right. Keep huffing.
The former Bryar operates as a modified 1.6 mile road racing course incorporating more of the NHMS oval.
Maybe you can snag a competitive lap time. Maybe not. I am told the
current Formula-F track record is 1:05-ish.
On 2021-12-06 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
So a circuit that closed more than 30 years ago.It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US SCCA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FF Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of amateur road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third >>>>>>>>>>>>> year of racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple >>>>>>>>>>>>> fact is that I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, >>>>>>>>>>>> so... keep huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has >>>>>>>>>>>> competed there.
So you think he's magically a worse driver when he drives >>>>>>>>>>> here in Mission than he was at the Runoffs, Pipsqueak?
It's the simple transitive property.
If A is faster than B, and B is faster than C...
So show up, or shut up, duffer.
I do show up.
I show up and I'm currently the second fastest every at my
circuit...
...including the 2015 SCCA Runoffs Champion.
What's your best lap?
Oh, right!
"It's the simple transitive property."-a You'll never get there. >>>>>>>>
"Oh, right!"-a An arrive and drive 1:13.2 at Bryar in a DP Lotus >>>>>>>> Europa.
So show up at the Runoffs you huff about, transitively, or shut up. >>>>>>>
What was the D Production lap record?
And since it was just a club meeting, does it even matter?
Fact:
I'm faster at our track than a driver who actually won the SCCA >>>>>>> Runoffs in the same class.
That's just the fact, Pipsqueak.
And it galls you, doesn't it?
:-)
"Transitive", my ass. Faster than an aged-out Runoffs Champion.
So he won in 2015 and when exactly did he "age out"?
He and I are almost exactly the same age, BTW. I can't remember if
he's a year older or a year younger.
"Galls" me? Reeling you in after you take the bait makes me LMAO.
"Wace dwiber."
Yup. It quite obviously galls you.
Interesting that you didn't tell us what the lap record for D
Production at Bryar was...
...or whether it was just a club meeting.
So, what was the lap record at Bryar for D Production?
I have no idea what was the DP lap record in the original Bryar
track configuration, nor was anyone shooting for one in a Thursday
'arrive and drive' practice.
Oh... ....so it was just practice. Got it.
Did you ever actually race... ...anything?
What did I need to prove, with that second lap of three?
You did three laps on a practice day...
(Did you have a driving instructor in the car, BTW?)
...but you ducked another easy question:
Have you ever actually raced... ...anything?
:-)
It's 'transitive', baby!
It's only transitive if you compare it to a known quantity.
If I know that A < B and that B < C, then I know that A < C.
So how does your lap time actually compare to a comparable?
It's interesting how you duck these questions, isn't it?
For reference, the 1972 Bryar Trans Am Under 2.5 pole was 1:16.0,
and the fast race lap was 1:17.5, while the IMSA Three-Hour Under
pole was 1:14.3, both on the original Bryar track configuration.
Transitive and gall-worthy, huh!
Not really.
Yeah, right. Keep huffing.
The former Bryar operates as a modified 1.6 mile road racing course
incorporating more of the NHMS oval.
Maybe you can snag a competitive lap time. Maybe not. I am told the
current Formula-F track record is 1:05-ish.
Did you rac...
...pardon me, did you practice your three laps on the current layout, or
the orginal?
The road course at Mission Raceway has been in operation since 1992
(IIRC) and in its current layout, since 2008.
In 2008, the FF lap record was set by Rick Payne (the future 2015
Runoffs Champion in FF) in a Swift at 1:13.248
2009 David McKay (Lola T644) lowered it to 1:12.783
2011 Olov Brandfors (Crossle 40/45F): 1:12.255
2012 Alan McColl (1977 Tiga): 1:11.880
2015 Alan lowers it to 1:11.026
2016 Doug Floer (Van Diemen RF94): 1:10.863
On May 6, 2018 Doug lowers it to 1:10.583; where it currently stands.
My best was on July 14, 2018 @ 1:10.833
And just to let you know, it's not like Rick hasn't been back and racing
in better equipment than the original Swift (which is still fairly competitive 37 years after it was introduce anyway). He's been at
Mission in his much more modern Piper, and his times against Alan McColl show they are pretty much at the same level of talent.
Facts, Pipsqueak.
Interesting that you didn't tell us
On 12/6/2021 4:23 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2021-12-06 11:32 a.m., News wrote:
It's not hope, sonny.
I'm the second fastest FF driver ever around Mission... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
...and the FF drivers at Mission include the 2015 US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCCA FF Runoffs champion.
The Sports Car Club of America Runoffs are the pinnacle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of amateur road racing in North America.
Of course you weren't there, so... keep huffing.
No. I wasn't at the 2015 Runoffs. I was only in my third >>>>>>>>>>>>>> year of racing.
But Rick has been at Mission; many times. And the simple >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact is that I'm faster than he's ever been there.
And the simple fact is you've never been to the runoffs, >>>>>>>>>>>>> so... keep huffing by comparing yourself to someone who has >>>>>>>>>>>>> competed there.
So you think he's magically a worse driver when he drives >>>>>>>>>>>> here in Mission than he was at the Runoffs, Pipsqueak? >>>>>>>>>>>>
It's the simple transitive property.
If A is faster than B, and B is faster than C...
So show up, or shut up, duffer.
I do show up.
I show up and I'm currently the second fastest every at my >>>>>>>>>> circuit...
...including the 2015 SCCA Runoffs Champion.
What's your best lap?
Oh, right!
"It's the simple transitive property."-a You'll never get there. >>>>>>>>>
"Oh, right!"-a An arrive and drive 1:13.2 at Bryar in a DP Lotus >>>>>>>>> Europa.
So show up at the Runoffs you huff about, transitively, or shut >>>>>>>>> up.
So a circuit that closed more than 30 years ago.
What was the D Production lap record?
And since it was just a club meeting, does it even matter?
Fact:
I'm faster at our track than a driver who actually won the SCCA >>>>>>>> Runoffs in the same class.
That's just the fact, Pipsqueak.
And it galls you, doesn't it?
:-)
"Transitive", my ass. Faster than an aged-out Runoffs Champion.
So he won in 2015 and when exactly did he "age out"?
He and I are almost exactly the same age, BTW. I can't remember if >>>>>> he's a year older or a year younger.
"Galls" me? Reeling you in after you take the bait makes me LMAO. >>>>>>> "Wace dwiber."
Yup. It quite obviously galls you.
Interesting that you didn't tell us what the lap record for D
Production at Bryar was...
...or whether it was just a club meeting.
So, what was the lap record at Bryar for D Production?
I have no idea what was the DP lap record in the original Bryar
track configuration, nor was anyone shooting for one in a Thursday
'arrive and drive' practice.
Oh... ....so it was just practice. Got it.
Did you ever actually race... ...anything?
What did I need to prove, with that second lap of three?
You did three laps on a practice day...
(Did you have a driving instructor in the car, BTW?)
...but you ducked another easy question:
Have you ever actually raced... ...anything?
:-)
It's 'transitive', baby!
It's only transitive if you compare it to a known quantity.
If I know that A < B and that B < C, then I know that A < C.
So how does your lap time actually compare to a comparable?
It's interesting how you duck these questions, isn't it?
For reference, the 1972 Bryar Trans Am Under 2.5 pole was 1:16.0,
and the fast race lap was 1:17.5, while the IMSA Three-Hour Under
pole was 1:14.3, both on the original Bryar track configuration.
Transitive and gall-worthy, huh!
Not really.
Yeah, right. Keep huffing.
The former Bryar operates as a modified 1.6 mile road racing course
incorporating more of the NHMS oval.
Maybe you can snag a competitive lap time. Maybe not. I am told the
current Formula-F track record is 1:05-ish.
Did you rac...
...pardon me, did you practice your three laps on the current layout,
or the orginal?
Asked and answered, skippy. Reading is fundamental. Catch up.
The road course at Mission Raceway has been in operation since 1992
(IIRC) and in its current layout, since 2008.
In 2008, the FF lap record was set by Rick Payne (the future 2015
Runoffs Champion in FF) in a Swift at 1:13.248
2009 David McKay (Lola T644) lowered it to 1:12.783
2011 Olov Brandfors (Crossle 40/45F): 1:12.255
2012 Alan McColl (1977 Tiga): 1:11.880
2015 Alan lowers it to 1:11.026
2016 Doug Floer (Van Diemen RF94): 1:10.863
On May 6, 2018 Doug lowers it to 1:10.583; where it currently stands.
My best was on July 14, 2018 @ 1:10.833
And just to let you know, it's not like Rick hasn't been back and
racing in better equipment than the original Swift (which is still
fairly competitive 37 years after it was introduce anyway). He's been
at Mission in his much more modern Piper, and his times against Alan
McColl show they are pretty much at the same level of talent.
Facts, Pipsqueak.
Who but you gives a flying 'fact' fuck? Talk to the hand, huffer.
Repeating, my best of three, nothing to prove, 'arrive and drive' laps,
on the original Bryar circuit was fun, and memorable.
If you don't like the idea, or the answers, who gives a flying fuck?
Not me, certainly, and I'll venture not many. Buh-bye, insufferable oaf.
On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:44:00 AM UTC-8, XYXPDQ wrote:
Turns one and maybe four look passable but the rest looks like
follow the leader (for equivalent cars).
Well this track is more suited for demolition derby. The problem, as
so often, are the idiotic chicanes. They are so tight that there is
no way two F1 cars ca safely be next to each other.
On 12/5/2021 3:51 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:44:00 AM UTC-8, XYXPDQ wrote:
Turns one and maybe four look passable but the rest looks like
follow the leader (for equivalent cars).
Well this track is more suited for demolition derby. The problem, asThere are no chicanes.
so often, are the idiotic chicanes. They are so tight that there is
no way two F1 cars ca safely be next to each other.
On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 9:48:31 AM UTC-8, Mark Jackson
wrote:
On 12/5/2021 3:51 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:44:00 AM UTC-8, XYXPDQThere are no chicanes.
wrote:
Turns one and maybe four look passable but the rest looks like
follow the leader (for equivalent cars).
Well this track is more suited for demolition derby. The problem,
as so often, are the idiotic chicanes. They are so tight that
there is no way two F1 cars ca safely be next to each other.
Ok, so they aren't called officially chicanes. But when you put two
or more tight turns close together so that two cars can't be side by
side w/o running or behind over the curbs it's a bad design.
...but both drivers have to play nice...
...and that is becoming increasingly rare.
On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 2:30:53 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
...but both drivers have to play nice...
...and that is becoming increasingly rare.
take up knitting then, pussy
Shhhhh...
Adults are talking.
On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 9:48:31 AM UTC-8, Mark Jackson
wrote:
On 12/5/2021 3:51 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:44:00 AM UTC-8, XYXPDQThere are no chicanes.
wrote:
Turns one and maybe four look passable but the rest looks like
follow the leader (for equivalent cars).
Well this track is more suited for demolition derby. The problem,
as so often, are the idiotic chicanes. They are so tight that
there is no way two F1 cars ca safely be next to each other.
Ok, so they aren't called officially chicanes. But when you put two
or more tight turns close together so that two cars can't be side by
side w/o running or behind over the curbs it's a bad design.
On 12/7/2021 4:28 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 9:48:31 AM UTC-8, Mark Jackson
wrote:
On 12/5/2021 3:51 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:44:00 AM UTC-8, XYXPDQThere are no chicanes.
wrote:
Turns one and maybe four look passable but the rest looks like
follow the leader (for equivalent cars).
Well this track is more suited for demolition derby. The problem,
as so often, are the idiotic chicanes. They are so tight that
there is no way two F1 cars ca safely be next to each other.
Ok, so they aren't called officially chicanes.-a But when you put two
or more tight turns close together so that two cars can't be side by
side w/o running or behind-a over the curbs it's a bad design.
They're not "tight turns," they're high speed sweepers.-a "A chicane is a serpentine curve in a road, added by design rather than dictated by geography. Chicanes add extra turns and are used both in motor racing
and on roads and streets to slow traffic for safety."-a (Wikipedia)-a The curves in question slow the cars not at all (or very little); calling
them chicanes is an abuse of the language.
On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 9:48:31 AM UTC-8, Mark Jackson wrote:
On 12/5/2021 3:51 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:44:00 AM UTC-8, XYXPDQ
wrote:
Turns one and maybe four look passable but the rest looks like
follow the leader (for equivalent cars).
Well this track is more suited for demolition derby. The problem,There are no chicanes.
as so often, are the idiotic chicanes. They are so tight that
there is no way two F1 cars ca safely be next to each other.
Ok, so they aren't called officially chicanes. But when you put two
or more tight turns close together so that two cars can't be side by
side w/o running or behind over the curbs it's a bad design.
Ummm...
On 12/7/2021 4:28 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 9:48:31 AM UTC-8, Mark Jackson
wrote:
On 12/5/2021 3:51 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 11:44:00 AM UTC-8, XYXPDQThere are no chicanes.
wrote:
Turns one and maybe four look passable but the rest looks like
follow the leader (for equivalent cars).
Well this track is more suited for demolition derby. The problem,
as so often, are the idiotic chicanes. They are so tight that
there is no way two F1 cars ca safely be next to each other.
Ok, so they aren't called officially chicanes.-a But when you put two
or more tight turns close together so that two cars can't be side by
side w/o running or behind-a over the curbs it's a bad design.
They're not "tight turns," they're high speed sweepers.-a "A chicane is a serpentine curve in a road, added by design rather than dictated by geography. Chicanes add extra turns and are used both in motor racing
and on roads and streets to slow traffic for safety."-a (Wikipedia)-a The curves in question slow the cars not at all (or very little); calling
them chicanes is an abuse of the language.
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