I use a Garming Forerunner 310XT with a strap band and an elastic extender so that I can tie it to a stern wing rigger, or to the footplate/shoe or even to a bike adapter, very easy and safe to put in on and off.I doubt that the Vivoactive 3 will provide an accurate stroke rate if attached to the boat. My reasoning is that the acceleration detection is assuming hand movement as opposed to the boat itself. The watch includes both on water and pretend off water rowing. My guess is that the two activities share much of the same supporting software.
Now I am trying to figure how to use a Garmine Vivoactive 3 in the same way, I want to use an hearth rate chest band, so the wrist reading is not a matter, my questions are:
- will it detect the stroke rate when simply put on the shoe or any support attached to the boat?
- is there any adapter similar to the one I'm using with the Forerunner?
- is it really enough to place it on the oar/scull? Will it be readable in both recovery and drive?
It has a simple 20mm wrist band, it seems strange to me I can't find an extender for the band, a quick strap velcro band or whatever.
What would you suggest to use?
On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 2:40:19 PM UTC-4, mikede...@gmail.com wrote:Does it have to be attached to the oar? I have been using garmin watches for a while sculling and just leave it attached to my wrist and its impressively accurate on rate - the only downside is when spinning it obviously records some crazy high rates
I use a Garming Forerunner 310XT with a strap band and an elastic extender so that I can tie it to a stern wing rigger, or to the footplate/shoe or even to a bike adapter, very easy and safe to put in on and off.
Now I am trying to figure how to use a Garmine Vivoactive 3 in the same way, I want to use an hearth rate chest band, so the wrist reading is not a matter, my questions are:
- will it detect the stroke rate when simply put on the shoe or any support attached to the boat?
- is there any adapter similar to the one I'm using with the Forerunner?
- is it really enough to place it on the oar/scull? Will it be readable in both recovery and drive?
It has a simple 20mm wrist band, it seems strange to me I can't find an extender for the band, a quick strap velcro band or whatever.
What would you suggest to use?I doubt that the Vivoactive 3 will provide an accurate stroke rate if attached to the boat. My reasoning is that the acceleration detection is assuming hand movement as opposed to the boat itself. The watch includes both on water and pretend off water rowing. My guess is that the two activities share much of the same supporting software.
I have seen people with watches attached to their sculling blade and I am quite sure the Vivoactive 3 will detect a decent rate from there and you can have reasonably good visibility from there. I doubt that you can have good visibility on both recovery and drive, however. My guess you will need to pick one or the other. Depending on your planned ratings my guess is the recovery would be the better of the two.
I THINK you can just tighten the watch band on the shaft and it will stay. You might need to place something on the shaft to make it softer like a rubber strap to allow the band to get tight enough so it doesnrCOt rotate or slip.
Hope this helps,
don Vickers
On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 2:40:19 PM UTC-4, mikede...@gmail.com wrote:I wrote up my experience here https://analytics.rowsandall.com/2020/07/17/rowing-data-from-a-garmin-vivoactive-3-compared-to-nk-speedcoach-gps/
I use a Garming Forerunner 310XT with a strap band and an elastic extender so that I can tie it to a stern wing rigger, or to the footplate/shoe or even to a bike adapter, very easy and safe to put in on and off.
Now I am trying to figure how to use a Garmine Vivoactive 3 in the same way, I want to use an hearth rate chest band, so the wrist reading is not a matter, my questions are:
- will it detect the stroke rate when simply put on the shoe or any support attached to the boat?
- is there any adapter similar to the one I'm using with the Forerunner?
- is it really enough to place it on the oar/scull? Will it be readable in both recovery and drive?
It has a simple 20mm wrist band, it seems strange to me I can't find an extender for the band, a quick strap velcro band or whatever.
What would you suggest to use?I doubt that the Vivoactive 3 will provide an accurate stroke rate if attached to the boat. My reasoning is that the acceleration detection is assuming hand movement as opposed to the boat itself. The watch includes both on water and pretend off water rowing. My guess is that the two activities share much of the same supporting software.
I have seen people with watches attached to their sculling blade and I am quite sure the Vivoactive 3 will detect a decent rate from there and you can have reasonably good visibility from there. I doubt that you can have good visibility on both recovery and drive, however. My guess you will need to pick one or the other. Depending on your planned ratings my guess is the recovery would be the better of the two.
I THINK you can just tighten the watch band on the shaft and it will stay. You might need to place something on the shaft to make it softer like a rubber strap to allow the band to get tight enough so it doesnrCOt rotate or slip.
Hope this helps,
don Vickers
On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 2:56:09 PM UTC+2, don Vickers wrote:As Sander reports, the heart rate detection of the VivoSmart3 is very poor for rowing. As an example I walked about 2.6 k meters yesterday and the average pulse was 96. This morning I did two 6k pieces in a 1x and in both the average pulse was 91. I was not rowing a race pace but at a 3:03 split and was dripping in sweat at the end whereas I worked just a minor sweat on my walk.
On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 2:40:19 PM UTC-4, mikede...@gmail.com wrote:
I use a Garming Forerunner 310XT with a strap band and an elastic extender so that I can tie it to a stern wing rigger, or to the footplate/shoe or even to a bike adapter, very easy and safe to put in on and off.
Now I am trying to figure how to use a Garmine Vivoactive 3 in the same way, I want to use an hearth rate chest band, so the wrist reading is not a matter, my questions are:
- will it detect the stroke rate when simply put on the shoe or any support attached to the boat?
- is there any adapter similar to the one I'm using with the Forerunner?
- is it really enough to place it on the oar/scull? Will it be readable in both recovery and drive?
It has a simple 20mm wrist band, it seems strange to me I can't find an extender for the band, a quick strap velcro band or whatever.
What would you suggest to use?I doubt that the Vivoactive 3 will provide an accurate stroke rate if attached to the boat. My reasoning is that the acceleration detection is assuming hand movement as opposed to the boat itself. The watch includes both on water and pretend off water rowing. My guess is that the two activities share much of the same supporting software.
I have seen people with watches attached to their sculling blade and I am quite sure the Vivoactive 3 will detect a decent rate from there and you can have reasonably good visibility from there. I doubt that you can have good visibility on both recovery and drive, however. My guess you will need to pick one or the other. Depending on your planned ratings my guess is the recovery would be the better of the two.
I THINK you can just tighten the watch band on the shaft and it will stay. You might need to place something on the shaft to make it softer like a rubber strap to allow the band to get tight enough so it doesnrCOt rotate or slip.
Hope this helps,I wrote up my experience here https://analytics.rowsandall.com/2020/07/17/rowing-data-from-a-garmin-vivoactive-3-compared-to-nk-speedcoach-gps/
don Vickers
On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 8:48:20 AM UTC-4, sander wrote:i used to have a Vivosport 3, and its heart rate tracking when rowing was poor, although it worked fine when running. I now have a Vivosport 4 and that seems to track my heart rate when rowing fairly accurately, I presume it has a different sensor and/or software.
On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 2:56:09 PM UTC+2, don Vickers wrote:
On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 2:40:19 PM UTC-4, mikede...@gmail.com wrote:
I use a Garming Forerunner 310XT with a strap band and an elastic extender so that I can tie it to a stern wing rigger, or to the footplate/shoe or even to a bike adapter, very easy and safe to put in on and off.
Now I am trying to figure how to use a Garmine Vivoactive 3 in the same way, I want to use an hearth rate chest band, so the wrist reading is not a matter, my questions are:
- will it detect the stroke rate when simply put on the shoe or any support attached to the boat?
- is there any adapter similar to the one I'm using with the Forerunner?
- is it really enough to place it on the oar/scull? Will it be readable in both recovery and drive?
It has a simple 20mm wrist band, it seems strange to me I can't find an extender for the band, a quick strap velcro band or whatever.
What would you suggest to use?I doubt that the Vivoactive 3 will provide an accurate stroke rate if attached to the boat. My reasoning is that the acceleration detection is assuming hand movement as opposed to the boat itself. The watch includes both on water and pretend off water rowing. My guess is that the two activities share much of the same supporting software.
I have seen people with watches attached to their sculling blade and I am quite sure the Vivoactive 3 will detect a decent rate from there and you can have reasonably good visibility from there. I doubt that you can have good visibility on both recovery and drive, however. My guess you will need to pick one or the other. Depending on your planned ratings my guess is the recovery would be the better of the two.
I THINK you can just tighten the watch band on the shaft and it will stay. You might need to place something on the shaft to make it softer like a rubber strap to allow the band to get tight enough so it doesnrCOt rotate or slip.
As Sander reports, the heart rate detection of the VivoSmart3 is very poor for rowing. As an example I walked about 2.6 k meters yesterday and the average pulse was 96. This morning I did two 6k pieces in a 1x and in both the average pulse was 91. I was not rowing a race pace but at a 3:03 split and was dripping in sweat at the end whereas I worked just a minor sweat on my walk.Hope this helps,I wrote up my experience here https://analytics.rowsandall.com/2020/07/17/rowing-data-from-a-garmin-vivoactive-3-compared-to-nk-speedcoach-gps/
don Vickers
My guess is the flexing of the wrists in feathering and squaring the blades may cause the optics of the watch to lose contact with the blood. A while back I tried wearing the watch under the wrist but the results were no better and what little visibility the watch offers on top of the wrist was lost.
The watch tracks distance, split and rate quite well but if you want heart rate a strap seems a necessity.
For what little it is worth,
don Vickers
I use a Garming Forerunner 310XT with a strap band and an elastic extender so that I can tie it to a stern wing rigger, or to the footplate/shoe or even to a bike adapter, very easy and safe to put in on and off.--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
Now I am trying to figure how to use a Garmine Vivoactive 3 in the same way, I want to use an hearth rate chest band, so the wrist reading is not a matter, my questions are:
- will it detect the stroke rate when simply put on the shoe or any support attached to the boat?
- is there any adapter similar to the one I'm using with the Forerunner?
- is it really enough to place it on the oar/scull? Will it be readable in both recovery and drive?
It has a simple 20mm wrist band, it seems strange to me I can't find an extender for the band, a quick strap velcro band or whatever.
What would you suggest to use?
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