• Oz v India, T4

    From Ramapriya D@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Mon Oct 26 20:53:07 2020
    I realise that the pandemic situation may be responsible for it but how often have Tests at the Gabba, which I've somehow always associated with November, been played circa mid-January?

    The chutzpah shown by the ACB to let in crowds for the Boxing Day Test is admirable, given how the world, Oz included, has reacted to COVID-19 over the past seven months.
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  • From Brian Lawrence@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Tue Oct 27 08:38:13 2020
    On 27/10/2020 03:53, Ramapriya D wrote:

    I realise that the pandemic situation may be responsible for it but how often have Tests at the Gabba, which I've somehow always associated with November, been played circa mid-January?

    The chutzpah shown by the ACB to let in crowds for the Boxing Day Test is admirable, given how the world, Oz included, has reacted to COVID-19 over the past seven months.

    This may be the third.

    19 Jan 1968 v India
    24 Jan 2019 Sri Lanka

    Also February:

    10 Feb 1933 v England

    I think 41 started in November & 18 in December.


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  • From Ramapriya D@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Tue Oct 27 23:39:34 2020
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 12:38:15 PM UTC+4, Brian Lawrence wrote:

    10 Feb 1933 v England


    Thanks a lot, Brian. I can't recall if an Ashes in Oz has ever extended into February in my lifetime. Any idea what may have caused that in '33, and that too at the Gabba?
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  • From Brian Lawrence@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Wed Oct 28 09:48:30 2020
    On 28/10/2020 06:39, Ramapriya D wrote:

    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 12:38:15 PM UTC+4, Brian Lawrence wrote:

    10 Feb 1933 v England


    Thanks a lot, Brian. I can't recall if an Ashes in Oz has ever extended into February in my lifetime.
    Any idea what may have caused that in '33, and that too at the Gabba?

    Before the tour was planned Vic Richardson had proposed that the first
    Test should be played at Adelaide, with T1 in future being cycled among
    the States so that no State would always get a Test when the series had already been decided. That suggestion appears to have not been agreed.

    After the schedule was proposed the MCC asked that it be revised to
    allow them to go on to a brief tour of New Zealand. Australia refused
    that request. There was some talk that MCC were not happy playing in
    Queensland in January because of the tropical heat. Not sure that Feb 10
    was any better.

    OK, did some digging, the Perth Daily News, 5 Jan 1932 said, "On the
    occasion of the last visit by the Englishmen, the first Test was played
    at Brisbane, and, owing to wet weather, was a fiasco. Australia was
    badly beaten.

    The Board of Control is taking no risks this time by playing a Test
    match at Brisbane early in the wet season. The visitors will not
    reach Queensland until January 1933."

    The Test was at that time scheduled to start on Jan 20.

    From trove.nla.gov,au



    The last Ashes Test to start in March began on 08 March 1929. The 1977 Centenary Test began 12 March, but the Ashes were not at stake.

    Aus v Eng Tests in March:

    MCG (8) 1877 (2), 1882, 1885, 1895, 1904, 1929, 1977
    SCG (2) 1882, 1885
    Adelaide 1892

    The 1932/33 Ashes Tests were:

    Sydney 02 Dec
    Melbourne 30 Dec
    Adelaide 13 Jan
    Brisbane 10 Feb
    Sydney 23 Feb

    The tour began on 21 Oct, with 6 f/c matches before T1,
    2 more between T1 & T2, none between T2 & T3, 2 between
    T3 & T4, and none T4/T5. Two f/c after T5 before the MCC
    team left for NZ. They fitted a NZ tour in somehow.
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  • From John Hall@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Wed Oct 28 10:39:07 2020
    In message <c525ace5-d560-47bc-b78b-507ce0482fb7n@googlegroups.com>,
    Ramapriya D <rama@samura.ai> writes
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 12:38:15 PM UTC+4, Brian Lawrence wrote:

    10 Feb 1933 v England


    Thanks a lot, Brian. I can't recall if an Ashes in Oz has ever extended
    into February in my lifetime. Any idea what may have caused that in
    '33, and that too at the Gabba?


    The schedule was even odder in 1928-9. The 4th Test was at Adelaide
    right at the start of February, and then the 5th Test at Melbourne
    wasn't till the 8th to the16th of March. That Brisbane Test in 1932-3
    was the 4th of the series and the 5th match was at Sydney at the end of February. Because the matches before WW2 were "timeless", they would
    have had to schedule them further apart, especially allowing for
    scheduling games against the states as well, so I imagine that the
    series would have had to extend over a much longer period.

    From a very quick check, the last Ashes series that extended into
    February may have been that of 1978-9, so well within my lifetime but
    perhaps not in yours.
    --
    John Hall

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  • From Ramapriya D@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Wed Oct 28 03:46:15 2020
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 2:41:51 PM UTC+4, John Hall wrote:

    From a very quick check, the last Ashes series that extended into
    February may have been that of 1978-9, so well within my lifetime but perhaps not in yours.
    I'm no spring chicken, sadly, and if that was the series in which Gower in one of his innings scratched around for his first 30 runs and then suddenly hit sublime form, especially against Dymock, to score a 90+, it was the first one I followed via ABC's ball-by-ball commentary.
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  • From John Hall@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Wed Oct 28 10:59:24 2020
    In message <8a6350ed-d5bb-47af-939c-93c105fe87d4n@googlegroups.com>,
    Ramapriya D <rama@samura.ai> writes
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 2:41:51 PM UTC+4, John Hall wrote:

    From a very quick check, the last Ashes series that extended into
    February may have been that of 1978-9, so well within my lifetime but
    perhaps not in yours.


    I'm no spring chicken, sadly, and if that was the series in which Gower
    in one of his innings scratched around for his first 30 runs and then >suddenly hit sublime form, especially against Dymock, to score a 90+,
    it was the first one I followed via ABC's ball-by-ball commentary.


    He scored 102 in the 2nd Test, but he didn't have any scores in the 90s.
    There were six Tests in that series, and they played the ODIs halfway
    through it, so it's not surprising it extended into February.
    --
    John Hall

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  • From Brian Lawrence@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Wed Oct 28 11:32:28 2020
    On 28/10/2020 10:39, John Hall wrote:
    In message <c525ace5-d560-47bc-b78b-507ce0482fb7n@googlegroups.com>, Ramapriya D <rama@samura.ai> writes
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 12:38:15 PM UTC+4, Brian Lawrence wrote:

    10 Feb 1933 v England


    Thanks a lot, Brian. I can't recall if an Ashes in Oz has ever
    extended into February in my lifetime. Any idea what may have caused
    that in '33, and that too at the Gabba?


    The schedule was even odder in 1928-9. The 4th Test was at Adelaide
    right at the start of February, and then the 5th Test at Melbourne
    wasn't till the 8th to the16th of March. That Brisbane Test in 1932-3
    was the 4th of the series and the 5th match was at Sydney at the end of February. Because the matches before WW2 were "timeless", they would
    have had to schedule them further apart, especially allowing for
    scheduling games against the states as well, so I imagine that the
    series would have had to extend over a much longer period.

    From a very quick check, the last Ashes series that extended into
    February may have been that of 1978-9, so well within my lifetime but perhaps not in yours.

    1974-75 08 Feb Melbourne
    1978-79 10 Feb Sydney
    1979-80 01 Feb Melbourne
    1990-91 01 Feb Perth
    1994-95 03 Feb Perth
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  • From Ramapriya D@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Wed Oct 28 04:47:32 2020
    On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 3:01:52 PM UTC+4, John Hall wrote:

    He scored 102 in the 2nd Test, but he didn't have any scores in the 90s. There were six Tests in that series, and they played the ODIs halfway through it, so it's not surprising it extended into February.


    Yep, that's the one. I remember that Boycott was his partner during that innings and I subsequently recall reading Boycott rating highly that latter half of Gower's innings.
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  • From John Hall@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Wed Oct 28 13:30:02 2020
    In message <hvt36aFcnj7U1@mid.individual.net>, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com> writes
    On 28/10/2020 10:39, John Hall wrote:
    In message <c525ace5-d560-47bc-b78b-507ce0482fb7n@googlegroups.com>, >>Ramapriya D <rama@samura.ai> writes
    On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 12:38:15 PM UTC+4, Brian Lawrence wrote: >>>>
    10 Feb 1933 v England


    Thanks a lot, Brian. I can't recall if an Ashes in Oz has ever
    extended into February in my lifetime. Any idea what may have caused >>>that in '33, and that too at the Gabba?


    The schedule was even odder in 1928-9. The 4th Test was at Adelaide
    right at the start of February, and then the 5th Test at Melbourne
    wasn't till the 8th to the16th of March. That Brisbane Test in 1932-3
    was the 4th of the series and the 5th match was at Sydney at the end
    of February. Because the matches before WW2 were "timeless", they
    would have had to schedule them further apart, especially allowing
    for scheduling games against the states as well, so I imagine that the >>series would have had to extend over a much longer period.
    From a very quick check, the last Ashes series that extended into >>February may have been that of 1978-9, so well within my lifetime but >>perhaps not in yours.

    1974-75 08 Feb Melbourne
    1978-79 10 Feb Sydney
    1979-80 01 Feb Melbourne
    1990-91 01 Feb Perth
    1994-95 03 Feb Perth


    Thanks, Brian
    --
    John Hall

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