• Free to air TV and grass roots cricket

    From Dechucka@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Sun Nov 29 10:18:07 2020
    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold
    the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots
    cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true.

    The ACB is going own the same path and if it wasn't for anti siphoning
    laws there would be no proper cricket on FTA.
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  • From John Hall@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Sun Nov 29 09:19:05 2020
    In message <65-dnd8uyv8sR1_CnZ2dnUU7-TXNnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> writes
    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold
    the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots >cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true.

    Yes, The ECB did a deal which came into force for the 2020 English
    season whereby the BBC can show England home T20s and some matches in
    the new Hundred competition live, as well as hour-long highlights of
    other England home matches (which had previously been shown on a
    different FTA channel)..

    The ACB is going own the same path and if it wasn't for anti siphoning
    laws there would be no proper cricket on FTA.
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  • From alvey@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Mon Nov 30 05:41:26 2020
    On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:18:07 +1100, Dechucka wrote:

    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold
    the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true.

    The ACB is going own the same path and if it wasn't for anti siphoning
    laws there would be no proper cricket on FTA.

    For the nth time Chuck, the "ACB" is long dead. It's CA now.

    Anyway to your point... CAs concern with grass roots cricket suffers from precisely the same flaw as pollies setting policy and funding for public schools. Their kids go to private schools so they don't give a toss about either.


    alvey
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  • From Dechucka@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Mon Nov 30 07:21:13 2020
    On 30/11/2020 6:41 am, alvey wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:18:07 +1100, Dechucka wrote:

    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold
    the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots
    cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true.

    The ACB is going own the same path and if it wasn't for anti siphoning
    laws there would be no proper cricket on FTA.

    For the nth time Chuck, the "ACB" is long dead. It's CA now.

    Shit eh

    Anyway to your point... CAs concern with grass roots cricket suffers from precisely the same flaw as pollies setting policy and funding for public schools. Their kids go to private schools so they don't give a toss about either.

    That may well be the reason but I see it as short sighted. Yep they have
    the big bucks now but if it is effecting the future of cricket obviously
    not good. It is even dumber if they can see what is happening in the UK
    after EB sold of all the rights to pay TV.
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  • From alvey@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Mon Nov 30 06:30:52 2020
    On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 07:21:13 +1100, Dechucka wrote:

    On 30/11/2020 6:41 am, alvey wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:18:07 +1100, Dechucka wrote:

    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold
    the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots
    cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true.

    The ACB is going own the same path and if it wasn't for anti siphoning
    laws there would be no proper cricket on FTA.

    For the nth time Chuck, the "ACB" is long dead. It's CA now.

    Shit eh

    Anyway to your point... CAs concern with grass roots cricket suffers from
    precisely the same flaw as pollies setting policy and funding for public
    schools. Their kids go to private schools so they don't give a toss about
    either.

    That may well be the reason but I see it as short sighted. Yep they have
    the big bucks now but if it is effecting the future of cricket obviously
    not good. It is even dumber if they can see what is happening in the UK after EB sold of all the rights to pay TV.

    Welcome to capitalism!
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  • From Dechucka@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Mon Nov 30 07:34:41 2020
    On 30/11/2020 7:30 am, alvey wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 07:21:13 +1100, Dechucka wrote:

    On 30/11/2020 6:41 am, alvey wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:18:07 +1100, Dechucka wrote:

    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold
    the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots
    cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true. >>>>
    The ACB is going own the same path and if it wasn't for anti siphoning >>>> laws there would be no proper cricket on FTA.

    For the nth time Chuck, the "ACB" is long dead. It's CA now.

    Shit eh

    Anyway to your point... CAs concern with grass roots cricket suffers from >>> precisely the same flaw as pollies setting policy and funding for public >>> schools. Their kids go to private schools so they don't give a toss about >>> either.

    That may well be the reason but I see it as short sighted. Yep they have
    the big bucks now but if it is effecting the future of cricket obviously
    not good. It is even dumber if they can see what is happening in the UK
    after EB sold of all the rights to pay TV.

    Welcome to capitalism!

    Didn't expect a sensible discussion when I saw you replying and I was
    not disappointed

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  • From alvey@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Mon Nov 30 07:29:23 2020
    On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 07:34:41 +1100, Dechucka wrote:

    On 30/11/2020 7:30 am, alvey wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 07:21:13 +1100, Dechucka wrote:

    On 30/11/2020 6:41 am, alvey wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:18:07 +1100, Dechucka wrote:

    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold >>>>> the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots >>>>> cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true. >>>>>
    The ACB is going own the same path and if it wasn't for anti siphoning >>>>> laws there would be no proper cricket on FTA.

    For the nth time Chuck, the "ACB" is long dead. It's CA now.

    Shit eh

    Anyway to your point... CAs concern with grass roots cricket suffers from >>>> precisely the same flaw as pollies setting policy and funding for public >>>> schools. Their kids go to private schools so they don't give a toss about >>>> either.

    That may well be the reason but I see it as short sighted. Yep they have >>> the big bucks now but if it is effecting the future of cricket obviously >>> not good. It is even dumber if they can see what is happening in the UK
    after EB sold of all the rights to pay TV.

    Welcome to capitalism!

    Didn't expect a sensible discussion when I saw you replying and I was
    not disappointed


    Ohhh no you don't Chuckie. I'm not getting mired in one of your endless threads. Besides, my comment is a succint opinion of the situation.



    alvey
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  • From Dechucka@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Mon Nov 30 08:48:58 2020
    On 29/11/2020 8:19 pm, John Hall wrote:
    In message <65-dnd8uyv8sR1_CnZ2dnUU7-TXNnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> writes
    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold
    the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots
    cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true.

    Yes, The ECB did a deal which came into force for the 2020 English
    season whereby the BBC can show England home T20s and some matches in
    the new Hundred competition live,

    Had to look up the rules/laws for his. Games are getting shorter and
    more hit and giggle imho.

    as well as hour-long highlights of
    other England home matches (which had previously been shown on a
    different FTA channel)..

    Good that the issue is being addressed. I grew up watching cricket on
    the ABC and Ch 9 (+ a mates Dad taking us out to the SCG for Tests) and
    that turned me into the cricket tragic I am. Not everybody can afford
    pay TV or the streaming services.
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  • From Dechucka@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Mon Nov 30 08:52:51 2020
    On 30/11/2020 8:48 am, Dechucka wrote:
    On 29/11/2020 8:19 pm, John Hall wrote:
    In message <65-dnd8uyv8sR1_CnZ2dnUU7-TXNnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka
    <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> writes
    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold
    the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots
    cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true.

    Yes, The ECB did a deal which came into force for the 2020 English
    season whereby the BBC can show England home T20s and some matches in
    the new Hundred competition live,

    Had to look up the rules/laws for his.

    this
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  • From John Hall@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Sun Nov 29 21:59:30 2020
    In message <XbudnTe2I6OrhVnCnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> writes
    On 30/11/2020 8:48 am, Dechucka wrote:
    On 29/11/2020 8:19 pm, John Hall wrote:
    In message <65-dnd8uyv8sR1_CnZ2dnUU7-TXNnZ2d@westnet.com.au>,
    Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> writes
    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB
    sold the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in
    grass roots cricket and they are now trying to get some back on
    FTA. Is this true.

    Yes, The ECB did a deal which came into force for the 2020 English >>>season whereby the BBC can show England home T20s and some matches in >>>the new Hundred competition live,
    Had to look up the rules/laws for his.

    this

    I hadn't even noticed the typo. I expected it to say "this" so
    automatically read it as "this".
    --
    John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
    pays off now." Anon
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  • From mike@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Mon Nov 30 15:41:50 2020
    On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 9:49:08 PM UTC, dech...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On 29/11/2020 8:19 pm, John Hall wrote:
    In message <65-dnd8uyv8sR1_C...@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka <Dech...@hotmail.com> writes
    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold
    the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots
    cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true.

    Yes, The ECB did a deal which came into force for the 2020 English
    season whereby the BBC can show England home T20s and some matches in
    the new Hundred competition live,
    Had to look up the rules/laws for his. Games are getting shorter and
    more hit and giggle imho.
    yes it certainly seems that way. they seem determined to try and replicate something similar to the IPL/BB, and the existing T20 comp didnt satisfy
    them.
    the only good thing about covid was that it forced the cancelation of the 100, but unfortunately the ECB had apparently invested about -u200 million in this commercialised thrash about, so they probably be desperate to stage it next year.
    btw what are these anti siphoning laws in cricket?
    mike
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  • From Dechucka@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Tue Dec 1 10:52:56 2020
    On 1/12/2020 10:41 am, mike wrote:
    On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 9:49:08 PM UTC, dech...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On 29/11/2020 8:19 pm, John Hall wrote:
    In message <65-dnd8uyv8sR1_C...@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka
    <Dech...@hotmail.com> writes
    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold
    the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots
    cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true.

    Yes, The ECB did a deal which came into force for the 2020 English
    season whereby the BBC can show England home T20s and some matches in
    the new Hundred competition live,
    Had to look up the rules/laws for his. Games are getting shorter and
    more hit and giggle imho.

    yes it certainly seems that way. they seem determined to try and replicate something similar to the IPL/BB, and the existing T20 comp didnt satisfy them.

    the only good thing about covid was that it forced the cancelation of the 100,
    but unfortunately the ECB had apparently invested about -u200 million in this commercialised thrash about, so they probably be desperate to stage it next year.

    btw what are these anti siphoning laws in cricket?

    When pay TV became big and sport was being bought up the Gov made laws
    that certain sports events like home Test cricket, the Olympics etc must
    be shown on FTA

    https://www.communications.gov.au/policy/policy-listing/anti-siphoning
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  • From John Hall@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Tue Dec 1 10:34:53 2020
    In message <Gd2dnawVeIVEGFjCnZ2dnUU7-VfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> writes
    On 1/12/2020 10:41 am, mike wrote:
    On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 9:49:08 PM UTC, dech...@hotmail.com wrote: >>> On 29/11/2020 8:19 pm, John Hall wrote:
    In message <65-dnd8uyv8sR1_C...@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka
    <Dech...@hotmail.com> writes
    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold >>>>> the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots >>>>> cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true. >>>>
    Yes, The ECB did a deal which came into force for the 2020 English
    season whereby the BBC can show England home T20s and some matches in
    the new Hundred competition live,
    Had to look up the rules/laws for his. Games are getting shorter and
    more hit and giggle imho.
    yes it certainly seems that way. they seem determined to try and >>replicate
    something similar to the IPL/BB, and the existing T20 comp didnt satisfy
    them.
    the only good thing about covid was that it forced the cancelation
    of the 100,
    but unfortunately the ECB had apparently invested about u200 million in this >> commercialised thrash about, so they probably be desperate to stage it next >> year.
    btw what are these anti siphoning laws in cricket?

    When pay TV became big and sport was being bought up the Gov made laws
    that certain sports events like home Test cricket, the Olympics etc
    must be shown on FTA

    https://www.communications.gov.au/policy/policy-listing/anti-siphoning

    We have something similar here, but cricket isn't included in those
    events. Apparently the ECB petitioned the government of the day that it shouldn't be, as it wanted all that lovely money fro9m Sky.
    --
    John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
    pays off now." Anon
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  • From alvey@24:150/2 to rec.sport.cricket on Wed Dec 2 06:14:09 2020
    On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:41:50 -0800 (PST), mike wrote:

    On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 9:49:08 PM UTC, dech...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On 29/11/2020 8:19 pm, John Hall wrote:
    In message <65-dnd8uyv8sR1_C...@westnet.com.au>, Dechucka
    <Dech...@hotmail.com> writes
    It was talked about on 'Grandstand' yesterday that after the ECB sold >>>> the cricket rights to pay TV there has been a drop off in grass roots >>>> cricket and they are now trying to get some back on FTA. Is this true. >>>
    Yes, The ECB did a deal which came into force for the 2020 English
    season whereby the BBC can show England home T20s and some matches in
    the new Hundred competition live,
    Had to look up the rules/laws for his. Games are getting shorter and
    more hit and giggle imho.

    yes it certainly seems that way. they seem determined to try and replicate something similar to the IPL/BB, and the existing T20 comp didnt satisfy them.

    the only good thing about covid was that it forced the cancelation of the 100,
    but unfortunately the ECB had apparently invested about u200 million in this commercialised thrash about, so they probably be desperate to stage it next year.

    btw what are these anti siphoning laws in cricket?


    A contradiction to a core Liberal Party philosophy...



    alvey
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