The only other country that has been represented by a native every
time a race has been held there is apparently Britain. That kinda
surprised me, but I've not thought too deeply about it. I'm wondering by
how many misses other countries fall short.

Phil
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On 9/27/2020 7:17 AM, Phil Carmody wrote:

The only other country that has been represented by a native every
time a race has been held there is apparently Britain. That kinda
surprised me, but I've not thought too deeply about it. I'm wondering
by how many misses other countries fall short.

India falls short by only one - but there have only been 3 GPs there.

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On 27/09/2020 12:17, Phil Carmody wrote:

The only other country that has been represented by a native every
time a race has been held there is apparently Britain. That kinda
surprised me, but I've not thought too deeply about it. I'm wondering by
how many misses other countries fall short.

India came to mind, three GPs and Karthikeyan drove in two.

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On 27/09/2020 15:02, Brian Lawrence wrote:

On 27/09/2020 12:17, Phil Carmody wrote:

The only other country that has been represented by a native every
time a race has been held there is apparently Britain. That kinda
surprised me, but I've not thought too deeply about it. I'm wondering by
how many misses other countries fall short.

India came to mind, three GPs and Karthikeyan drove in two.

I'd imagine that France, Germany, Italy & Brazil would have done quite
well.

You can add Sweden to the list - 6 GPs 1973-78, Ronnie Peterson drove in
all six.

It also looks as though there have only been 4 German GPs without a
German driver - 1956, 66, 69 & 90.
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On 27/09/2020 16:50, Brian Lawrence wrote:

On 27/09/2020 15:02, Brian Lawrence wrote:

On 27/09/2020 12:17, Phil Carmody wrote:

The only other country that has been represented by a native every
time a race has been held there is apparently Britain. That kinda
surprised me, but I've not thought too deeply about it. I'm wondering by >>> how many misses other countries fall short.

India came to mind, three GPs and Karthikeyan drove in two.

I'd imagine that France, Germany, Italy & Brazil would have done quite
well.

You can add Sweden to the list - 6 GPs 1973-78, Ronnie Peterson drove in
all six.

It also looks as though there have only been 4 German GPs without a
German driver - 1956, 66, 69 & 90.

Brazil - 47 GPs from 1973 to 2019. Fittipaldi was the biggest name from 1973-80 (8), then Piquet 1981-84 (4), Senna 85-94 (10), Barrichello
95-11 (17) & Massa 12-17 (6). No one since 2017.

France - 60 GPs 1950-2019, no French driver in 1965 or 2005.

Italy - 70 GPs, 1950-2020, no Italians in 68, 69, 2012-18 (9). Note
that in 26 San Marino GPs at Imola, there was always at least one
Italian driver - it's likely that Gio will continue that sequence in
Nov.
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Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com> writes:

On 27/09/2020 16:50, Brian Lawrence wrote:

On 27/09/2020 15:02, Brian Lawrence wrote:

On 27/09/2020 12:17, Phil Carmody wrote:

The only other country that has been represented by a native every
time a race has been held there is apparently Britain. That kinda
surprised me, but I've not thought too deeply about it. I'm wondering by >>>> how many misses other countries fall short.

India came to mind, three GPs and Karthikeyan drove in two.

I'd imagine that France, Germany, Italy & Brazil would have done
quite well.

You can add Sweden to the list - 6 GPs 1973-78, Ronnie Peterson drove in
all six.

I'd forgotten the relatively minor countries - nicely remembered Mark
and Brian! In particular for beating the pundits with Sweden. Now we
know that the infographics are provided by AWS insights too, I guess.

It also looks as though there have only been 4 German GPs without a
German driver - 1956, 66, 69 & 90.

My guesswork-based nearest miss bet would have been Germany, but that's
because my knowledge of the 50s and 60s is pretty messed up, I'm sure
I'd give loads of drivers the wrong flags.

Brazil - 47 GPs from 1973 to 2019. Fittipaldi was the biggest name
from 1973-80 (8), then Piquet 1981-84 (4), Senna 85-94 (10),
Barrichello 95-11 (17) & Massa 12-17 (6). No one since 2017.

France - 60 GPs 1950-2019, no French driver in 1965 or 2005.

I was scratching my head trying to think of French gaps, as I was sure
several would exist. However, I was wrong, and the nearest miss (apart
from India) seems to have been found.

Italy - 70 GPs, 1950-2020, no Italians in 68, 69, 2012-18 (9). Note
that in 26 San Marino GPs at Imola, there was always at least one
Italian driver - it's likely that Gio will continue that sequence in
Nov.

Thanks for the thorough reply, Brian, I hope it gave you some enjoyment.

Cheers,
Phil
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On 01/10/2020 21:34, Phil Carmody wrote:

Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com> writes:

On 27/09/2020 16:50, Brian Lawrence wrote:

On 27/09/2020 15:02, Brian Lawrence wrote:

On 27/09/2020 12:17, Phil Carmody wrote:

The only other country that has been represented by a native every
time a race has been held there is apparently Britain. That kinda
surprised me, but I've not thought too deeply about it. I'm wondering by >>>>> how many misses other countries fall short.

India came to mind, three GPs and Karthikeyan drove in two.

I'd imagine that France, Germany, Italy & Brazil would have done
quite well.

You can add Sweden to the list - 6 GPs 1973-78, Ronnie Peterson drove in >>> all six.

I'd forgotten the relatively minor countries - nicely remembered Mark
and Brian! In particular for beating the pundits with Sweden. Now we
know that the infographics are provided by AWS insights too, I guess.

It also looks as though there have only been 4 German GPs without a
German driver - 1956, 66, 69 & 90.

My guesswork-based nearest miss bet would have been Germany, but that's because my knowledge of the 50s and 60s is pretty messed up, I'm sure
I'd give loads of drivers the wrong flags.

Brazil - 47 GPs from 1973 to 2019. Fittipaldi was the biggest name
from 1973-80 (8), then Piquet 1981-84 (4), Senna 85-94 (10),
Barrichello 95-11 (17) & Massa 12-17 (6). No one since 2017.

France - 60 GPs 1950-2019, no French driver in 1965 or 2005.

I was scratching my head trying to think of French gaps, as I was sure several would exist. However, I was wrong, and the nearest miss (apart
from India) seems to have been found.

Italy - 70 GPs, 1950-2020, no Italians in 68, 69, 2012-18 (9). Note
that in 26 San Marino GPs at Imola, there was always at least one
Italian driver - it's likely that Gio will continue that sequence in
Nov.

Thanks for the thorough reply, Brian, I hope it gave you some enjoyment.

Certainly an interesting exercise :-)

I was going to post a bit more, but other things distracted me.

Argentina 17 out of 20
Australia 22 35
Austria 21 33

Belgium 37 65

Canada 25 50

Hungary 2 35 Zsolt Baumgartner

Japan 27 38

Malaysia 1 19 Alex Yoong
Mexico 13 20
Monaco 5 66
Morocco 1 1 Robert la Caze
Netherl. 13 30

Portugal 5 17

S Africa 17 23
Spain 30 50ESP
Switzer. 5 6 incl. 1982 Dijon race

No home drivers at:

Abu Dhabi
Azerbaijan
Bahrain
China
Korea
Singapore
Turkey

The USA is complicated, but here are all World Championship events:

Dallas GP 1 1
Detroit GP 7 7
Indy 500 11 11
L Beach 8 8 aka US West GP
Las Vegas 2 2 aka Caesar's Palace GP
US GP 25 41

American drivers drove in every US GP between 1960 and 1989 (23), but
only two since then (Scott Speed, 2007 & Alexander Rossi, 2015).

Between 1976 & 1980 the Watkins Glen GP was known as the US GP East.

And finally,

Events which were held in other countries, or were not 'national' GPs.

Anniversary GP GBR 1 1

Europe GBR 3 3
GER 11 12
ESP 5 7
AZB 1 0

Luxembourg GER 2 2

Pacific JPN 2 2
Pescara ITA 1 1

San Marino ITA 26 26
Styria AUT 0 1
Switzerland FRA 1 1

Tuscany ITA 1 1

Upcoming events at Imola & the Nurburgring should have Italian & German starters, but the Sakhir event won't have a Bahraini driver.

Extracted from existing files and help from ForIX.
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On 02/10/2020 08:57, Brian Lawrence wrote:

Events which were held in other countries, or were not 'national' GPs.

Europe-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a GBR-a-a-a 3-a-a-a 3
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a GER-a-a 11-a-a 12
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a ESP-a-a-a 5-a-a-a 7
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a AZB-a-a-a 1-a-a-a 0

Clearly Azerbaijan should be 0 from 1.
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