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    From Brian Lawrence@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Sep 12 19:38:06 2020
    Crofty alluded to it during today's commentary, but although
    tomorrow should be the Scuderia's 1,000th GP start, it's actually
    their 1,001st Championship start.

    In 1952 between the Swiss & Belgian GPs they entered a 'Ferrari
    special' in round 2 of the WDC, the Indy 500.

    Car #12 was entered by Enzo Ferrari and driven by Albert Ascari. It was
    a 375 with a 4.5L V12. It qualified 19th/row 7, but lost a wheel after
    40 laps, classified 31st.


    <https://www.reddit.com/r/F1Porn/comments/17bv98/alberto_ascari_ferrari_375_special_1952/>


    <https://web.archive.org/web/20091201112405/http://www.formula1.com/results/season/1952/609/>

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Indianapolis_500>
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  • From Mark Jackson@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Sep 12 14:51:52 2020
    On 9/12/2020 2:38 PM, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    Crofty alluded to it during today's commentary, but although
    tomorrow should be the Scuderia's 1,000th GP start, it's actually
    their 1,001st Championship start.

    In 1952 between the Swiss & Belgian GPs they entered a 'Ferrari
    special' in round 2 of the WDC, the Indy 500.

    See, he doesn't count *that* but goes on about how Gasly is the 109th GP winner, which includes 10 winners of the Indy 500 1950-1960. (Bill
    Vukovich won twice.)

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  • From Geoff May@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Sep 12 20:10:16 2020
    On 12/09/2020 19:38, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    Crofty alluded to it during today's commentary, but although
    tomorrow should be the Scuderia's 1,000th GP start, it's actually
    their 1,001st Championship start.

    In 1952 between the Swiss & Belgian GPs they entered a 'Ferrari
    special' in round 2 of the WDC, the Indy 500.

    [snipped]

    Have you seen the cars? And their helmets?

    I didn't watch the practice sessions but I do like that red colour.
    Looks much nicer than the standard red they use.

    Vettel's helmet looked like it was covered in oil on one side and the
    other had a technical drawing of a car (I assume the first one but
    couldn't make it out).

    Cheers

    Geoff
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Sep 12 20:02:42 2020
    Geoff May <GeoffMay_do_not_spam_me@nospam.com> wrote:
    On 12/09/2020 19:38, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    Crofty alluded to it during today's commentary, but although
    tomorrow should be the Scuderia's 1,000th GP start, it's actually
    their 1,001st Championship start.

    In 1952 between the Swiss & Belgian GPs they entered a 'Ferrari
    special' in round 2 of the WDC, the Indy 500.

    [snipped]

    Have you seen the cars? And their helmets?

    I didn't watch the practice sessions but I do like that red colour.

    CanrCOt say that I do. Nothing wrong with the colour but it simply doesnrCOt look rCLFerrarirCY. Of course I realize that it is based on the very first Ferrari, the 125S:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Ferrari_125_S.jpg/1200px-Ferrari_125_S.jpg

    Looks much nicer than the standard red they use.

    Vettel's helmet looked like it was covered in oil on one side and the
    other had a technical drawing of a car (I assume the first one but
    couldn't make it out).

    I would love to see a return to simple, easily recognized helmet designs
    such as Jackie Stewart, the Hills, pere et fils, Senna etc. especially now
    that so little of the driver is visible. But of course every square
    centimeter of visible space is valuable for commercial reasons.

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  • From a425couple@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1,rec.autos.sport. on Sat Sep 12 13:50:29 2020
    On 9/12/2020 11:38 AM, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    Crofty alluded to it during today's commentary, but although
    tomorrow should be the Scuderia's 1,000th GP start, it's actually
    their 1,001st Championship start.

    In 1952 between the Swiss & Belgian GPs they entered a 'Ferrari
    special' in round 2 of the WDC, the Indy 500.

    Car #12 was entered by Enzo Ferrari and driven by Albert Ascari. It was
    a 375 with a 4.5L V12. It qualified 19th/row 7, but lost a wheel after
    40 laps, classified 31st.

    <https://www.reddit.com/r/F1Porn/comments/17bv98/alberto_ascari_ferrari_375_special_1952/>

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20091201112405/http://www.formula1.com/results/season/1952/609/>

    -a-a <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Indianapolis_500>

    Some believed it was going to be an easy pick up of
    a bunch of American prize money.
    Turns out they underestimated the amount of torque
    needed at Indy back in those days.
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  • From Darryl Johnson@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Sep 12 18:15:51 2020
    On 2020-09-12 3:10 p.m., Geoff May wrote:
    On 12/09/2020 19:38, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    Crofty alluded to it during today's commentary, but although
    tomorrow should be the Scuderia's 1,000th GP start, it's actually
    their 1,001st Championship start.

    In 1952 between the Swiss & Belgian GPs they entered a 'Ferrari
    special' in round 2 of the WDC, the Indy 500.

    [snipped]

    Have you seen the cars? And their helmets?

    I didn't watch the practice sessions but I do like that red colour.
    Looks much nicer than the standard red they use.


    On the TV this morning, the Ferraris looked like a shade of purple,
    almost mauve. More than once, it took me a second to realize that it
    was a Ferrari I was looking at.


    Vettel's helmet looked like it was covered in oil on one side and the
    other had a technical drawing of a car (I assume the first one but
    couldn't make it out).

    Cheers

    Geoff

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  • From Brian Lawrence@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Sep 14 04:21:35 2020
    On 12/09/2020 19:51, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 9/12/2020 2:38 PM, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    Crofty alluded to it during today's commentary, but although
    tomorrow should be the Scuderia's 1,000th GP start, it's actually
    their 1,001st Championship start.

    In 1952 between the Swiss & Belgian GPs they entered a 'Ferrari
    special' in round 2 of the WDC, the Indy 500.

    See, he doesn't count *that* but goes on about how Gasly is the 109th GP winner, which includes 10 winners of the Indy 500 1950-1960.-a (Bill Vukovich won twice.)

    During Sunday's coverage he was saying that Mugello is the 75th circuit
    to hold a Grand Prix. I guess he read that from an online list, but that
    list probably includes the Algarve Motor Park which doesn't hold it's
    first race until October 25. Mugello is #74.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Sep 14 09:29:11 2020
    Brian Lawrence wrote:

    On 12/09/2020 19:51, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 9/12/2020 2:38 PM, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    Crofty alluded to it during today's commentary, but although
    tomorrow should be the Scuderia's 1,000th GP start, it's actually
    their 1,001st Championship start.

    In 1952 between the Swiss & Belgian GPs they entered a 'Ferrari
    special' in round 2 of the WDC, the Indy 500.

    See, he doesn't count that but goes on about how Gasly is the 109th
    GP winner, which includes 10 winners of the Indy 500 1950-1960.-a
    (Bill Vukovich won twice.)

    During Sunday's coverage he was saying that Mugello is the 75th
    circuit to hold a Grand Prix. I guess he read that from an online
    list, but that list probably includes the Algarve Motor Park which
    doesn't hold it's first race until October 25. Mugello is #74.

    F1 commentators are often not responsible for their own fact
    checking/trivia.

    They use someone like this guy,
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/virtualstatman/ Sean Kelly.
    He would feed them with stats and trivia live on air.

    His job is to keep the stats and trivia coming and sometimes you could
    tell they were repeating something he had fed them because it was dead
    air filler that had no relevance to anything that was actually
    happening on track.

    Then again Legard used to do that all the time and I'm not sure he had
    a guy feeding him.



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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Sep 15 11:58:24 2020
    On 14/09/2020 9:29 pm, Bigbird wrote:
    Brian Lawrence wrote:

    On 12/09/2020 19:51, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 9/12/2020 2:38 PM, Brian Lawrence wrote:
    Crofty alluded to it during today's commentary, but although
    tomorrow should be the Scuderia's 1,000th GP start, it's actually
    their 1,001st Championship start.

    In 1952 between the Swiss & Belgian GPs they entered a 'Ferrari
    special' in round 2 of the WDC, the Indy 500.

    See, he doesn't count that but goes on about how Gasly is the 109th
    GP winner, which includes 10 winners of the Indy 500 1950-1960.
    (Bill Vukovich won twice.)

    During Sunday's coverage he was saying that Mugello is the 75th
    circuit to hold a Grand Prix. I guess he read that from an online
    list, but that list probably includes the Algarve Motor Park which
    doesn't hold it's first race until October 25. Mugello is #74.

    F1 commentators are often not responsible for their own fact
    checking/trivia.

    They use someone like this guy,
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/virtualstatman/ Sean Kelly.
    He would feed them with stats and trivia live on air.

    His job is to keep the stats and trivia coming and sometimes you could
    tell they were repeating something he had fed them because it was dead
    air filler that had no relevance to anything that was actually
    happening on track.

    Then again Legard used to do that all the time and I'm not sure he had
    a guy feeding him.

    AFter mentioning a stat at Mugello Croft actually said "thanks Sean" so it's likely that guy.
    --
    Shaun.

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