• **2020 Pool** Race 16, Bahrain GP

    From Mark@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Nov 30 09:12:31 2020

    Please post your predictions for the GP in Bahrain before the start
    of P1 on 04/12/2020. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.

    Pole position:

    P1:
    P2:
    P3:

    There is a web page here where you can see the points/predictions as
    they stand as well as looking at past competitions/scoring systems:

    http://www.conmy.co.uk/f1/f1.cgi

    Track (Sakhir) 04/12/2020 14:00 AST
    Austin 04/12/2020 05:00 CST
    West Coast USA 04/12/2020 03:00 PST
    East Coast USA 04/12/2020 06:00 EST
    Ireland/Portugal/UK 04/12/2020 11:00 WET
    Ireland/Portugal/UK 04/12/2020 11:00 GMT
    Central Europe 04/12/2020 12:00 CET
    Most of Arabia 04/12/2020 14:00 AST
    Most of Arabia 04/12/2020 14:00 AST
    Russia/Oman/UAE 04/12/2020 15:00 GST
    Russia/Oman/UAE 04/12/2020 15:00 GST
    China 04/12/2020 19:00 CST
    Japan/Korea 04/12/2020 20:00 JST
    Perth 04/12/2020 19:00 AWST
    Adelaide/Darwin 04/12/2020 21:30 ACDT Melbourne/Canberra/Sydney 04/12/2020 22:00 AEDT
    New Zealand 05/12/2020 00:00 NZDT
    Russia 04/12/2020 14:00 MSK
    Ukraine 04/12/2020 14:00 MSK
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  • From Darryl Johnson@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Nov 30 09:46:30 2020
    On 2020-11-30 4:12 a.m., Mark wrote:
    Please post your predictions for the GP in Bahrain before the start
    of P1 on 04/12/2020. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.

    Pole position: HAM

    P1: HAM
    P2: PER
    P3: BOT

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  • From fnot@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Nov 30 20:24:40 2020
    Pole position: VER

    P1: BOT
    P2: VER
    P3: NOR
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  • From Hornplayer9599@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Nov 30 20:01:02 2020
    Mark wrote:


    Please post your predictions for the GP in Bahrain before the start
    of P1 on 04/12/2020. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.


    Pole: HAM

    P1: HAM
    P2: VER
    P3: BOT

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  • From Mark@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 1 09:03:06 2020
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> wrote:

    Pole position: HAM

    P1: HAM
    P2: VER
    P3: BOT

    I'm guessing that most people are going to have to revise their
    predictions given Hamilton testing positive with Covid...

    Let's make that:

    Pole position: VER

    P1: VER
    P2: BOT
    P3: ALB
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  • From Martin Harran@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 1 09:36:30 2020
    OK, Plan B :)

    Pole: BOT

    P1: VER
    P2: BOT
    P3: PER
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  • From Sreekumar A@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 1 15:44:17 2020
    On 12/1/2020 8:32 AM, Sreekumar A wrote:
    Pole position: BOT

    P1: BOT
    P2: VER
    P3: NOR


    Sreekumar
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  • From D Munz@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 1 06:05:53 2020
    Pole position: BOT

    P1: VER
    P2: PER
    P3: RIC
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  • From Darryl Johnson@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 1 09:23:10 2020
    Pole position: PER

    -aP1: PER
    -aP2: BOT
    -aP3: SAI
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  • From Jimbo@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 1 07:43:13 2020
    Pole position: BOT

    P1: BOT
    P2: VER
    P3: PER
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  • From Hornplayer9599@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 1 16:55:28 2020
    Hornplayer9599 wrote:

    Mark wrote:


    Please post your predictions for the GP in Bahrain before the start
    of P1 on 04/12/2020. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.


    Pole: HAM

    P1: HAM
    P2: VER
    P3: BOT

    Here's Plan B for me:

    Pole: VER

    P1: VER
    P2: ALB
    P3: NOR

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  • From EB5AGV@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Dec 2 01:36:34 2020
    Pole position: BOT

    P1: BOT
    P2: VER
    P3: SAI
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Dec 2 15:25:32 2020
    Pole position: BOT

    P1: VER

    P2: BOT

    P3: PER

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  • From Mark Jackson@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Dec 2 16:08:09 2020
    Pole position: Bottas

    P1: Bottas
    P2: Verstappen
    P3: Perez

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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 3 17:05:00 2020
    Pole position: RUS

    P1: RUS
    P2: VER
    P3: BOT

    Oh well there's no money for wining this thing right? Right? ;)

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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 3 07:59:41 2020
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    Pole position: RUS

    P1: RUS
    P2: VER
    P3: BOT

    Oh well there's no money for wining this thing right? Right? ;)


    If you are right the Hamilton haters will have a field dayEfye

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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 3 21:47:43 2020
    On 3/12/2020 8:59 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    Pole position: RUS

    P1: RUS
    P2: VER
    P3: BOT

    Oh well there's no money for wining this thing right? Right? ;)

    If you are right the Hamilton haters will have a field dayEfye

    I thought that too but I don't care about haters - what's the saying? Haters are going to hate
    anyway...

    I think that Russell has the potential to be close to the same league as Hamilton (as does Toto who
    wanted him in the second Merc seat next year) and have seen how well he qualifies*. If he can carry
    that qualifying skill over to this weekend, start on pole and stay out front at the start then only
    the strategists or fate will be able to beat him IMO. It's not like he's a rookie, he's completed
    almost two years in F1 already.

    * It's not unknown on recent times for Russell to out qualify Vettel (in a much slower car). And
    Vettel is a 4 x WDC and has finished on the podium recently...

    Gotta be worth a punt. I'm currently leading the pool and could play safe, pick the same as number
    2 in the pool and likely / maybe still be leading the pool next week then repeat for the last race.
    However I didn't get to where I am today by playing safe. ;)
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 3 11:29:07 2020
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/12/2020 8:59 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    Pole position: RUS

    P1: RUS
    P2: VER
    P3: BOT

    Oh well there's no money for wining this thing right? Right? ;)

    If you are right the Hamilton haters will have a field dayEfye

    I thought that too but I don't care about haters - what's the saying?
    Haters are going to hate
    anyway...

    I think that Russell has the potential to be close to the same league as Hamilton (as does Toto who
    wanted him in the second Merc seat next year) and have seen how well he qualifies*. If he can carry
    that qualifying skill over to this weekend, start on pole and stay out
    front at the start then only
    the strategists or fate will be able to beat him IMO. It's not like he's
    a rookie, he's completed
    almost two years in F1 already.

    Bottas has quite often out-qualified Lewis but usually loses out in the
    race due to HamiltonrCOs superior race craft. This is where George could
    score but itrCOs a very big ask. LetrCOs hope he is careful when warming his tyres :).


    * It's not unknown on recent times for Russell to out qualify Vettel (in
    a much slower car). And
    Vettel is a 4 x WDC and has finished on the podium recently...

    Gotta be worth a punt.

    Definitely - you donrCOt win by following the herd.

    I'm currently leading the pool and could play safe, pick the same as number

    2 in the pool and likely / maybe still be leading the pool next week
    then repeat for the last race.
    However I didn't get to where I am today by playing safe. ;)

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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 4 02:27:34 2020
    On 4/12/2020 12:29 am, Sir Tim wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/12/2020 8:59 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
    Pole position: RUS

    P1: RUS
    P2: VER
    P3: BOT

    Oh well there's no money for wining this thing right? Right? ;)

    If you are right the Hamilton haters will have a field dayEfye

    I thought that too but I don't care about haters - what's the saying?
    Haters are going to hate
    anyway...

    I think that Russell has the potential to be close to the same league as
    Hamilton (as does Toto who
    wanted him in the second Merc seat next year) and have seen how well he
    qualifies*. If he can carry
    that qualifying skill over to this weekend, start on pole and stay out
    front at the start then only
    the strategists or fate will be able to beat him IMO. It's not like he's
    a rookie, he's completed
    almost two years in F1 already.

    Bottas has quite often out-qualified Lewis but usually loses out in the
    race due to HamiltonrCOs superior race craft. This is where George could score but itrCOs a very big ask. LetrCOs hope he is careful when warming his tyres :).

    Heh! I have faith in him, I think he knows this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and will be up
    to the task. (He did after all win F3 then F2 titles back-to-back.). Anyway he will have the DAS
    system to warm his tyres.

    I know Bottas is a good qualifier but so is Russell. He's one of only three drivers to have such a
    long unbroken streak beating his team mate at qualifying and is in good company. One of the others
    was Senna. OK his team mates this year has been a financier rather than a natural talent but last
    year's was almost one of the greats once.

    Also Bottas is on a bit of a down after his trouncing in the WDC this year. I'm not sure how he'll
    react psychologically to this situation and how it'll affect his performance. The situation could
    be taken two ways by him. One is that he's finally team leader (... but that could cause him to be
    overconfident) and the other is that Toto's first pick for his seat for 2021 is now in the other
    car and that could cause nerves. Either way he's under almost as much pressure as Russell and he
    doesn't handle pressure as well as some do.

    I'm looking forward to seeing how it pans out. Max might well win (as he'll smell the blood in the
    water) and both Merc drivers get the willies and end up lower down the points. <shrug>

    Second (unofficial) pick for shits and giggles:

    VER

    VER
    PER
    NOR

    Will Perez get a penalty for a PU replacement? if so substitute Albon in the above.

    I'm more excited for this race than any other so far this year even though it'll probably throw up
    more questions than answers.

    * It's not unknown on recent times for Russell to out qualify Vettel (in
    a much slower car). And
    Vettel is a 4 x WDC and has finished on the podium recently...

    Gotta be worth a punt.

    Definitely - you donrCOt win by following the herd.

    True that. So far this year in the pool I've had Ricciardo four times, Norris twice, Sainz once and
    Albon once in my picks. Sure they were all for third place and it only paid off twice but that made
    a difference to my total.

    Cheers,
    --
    Shaun.

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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 3 05:31:08 2020
    On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 1:47:48 AM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:

    Haters are going to hate

    You hate all in the world.
    So shut your hypocritical pie hole.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 3 05:35:05 2020
    On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 6:27:43 AM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:

    Second (unofficial) pick for shits and giggles:

    fuck are you annoying
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  • From Ar@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 3 20:15:02 2020
    On 30/11/2020 09:12, Mark wrote:

    Pole position: Valtteri Bottas

    P1: Max Verstappen
    P2: Valtteri Bottas
    P3: George Russell
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  • From Phil Carmody@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Dec 3 23:03:28 2020
    Mark <mpconmy@gmail.com> writes:
    Please post your predictions for the GP in Bahrain before the start
    of P1 on 04/12/2020. Times for various timezones appear below, but
    the cutoff is start of practice.

    Pole position: BOT
    P1: VER
    P2: BOT
    P3: PER

    Cross fingers

    Triple points for everyone who put Russell anywhere.

    Phil
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  • From JohnM@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 4 09:18:24 2020

    Pole: BOT

    P1: VER
    P2: BOT
    P3: RUS

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  • From ceg@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Dec 4 09:31:44 2020

    Posting for ceg...

    Pole position: VER

    P1: VER
    P2: BOT
    P3: RUS
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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Dec 7 14:32:36 2020
    On 3/12/2020 5:05 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
    Pole position:-a RUS

    P1:-a RUS
    P2:-a VER
    P3:-a BOT

    Oh well there's no money for wining this thing right? Right? ;)

    Yeah no points there. I just hope it wasn't my bad luck affecting George, he almost did all that I
    thought he could. He certainly made no mistakes and drove like I knew (from GP3 / F2) that he could.
    --
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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Wed Dec 9 18:11:14 2020
    On 3/12/2020 9:47 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
    <snip>
    I think that Russell has the potential to be close to the same league as Hamilton (as does Toto who
    wanted him in the second Merc seat next year) and have seen how well he qualifies*. If he can carry
    that qualifying skill over to this weekend, start on pole and stay out front at the start then only
    the strategists or fate will be able to beat him IMO.

    I wish I hadn't posted this bit above now. Tempting fate is never a good idea.

    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
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    David Melville

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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 8 23:42:41 2020
    On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 10:11:16 PM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 3/12/2020 9:47 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
    <snip>
    I think that Russell has the potential to be close to the same league as Hamilton (as does Toto who
    wanted him in the second Merc seat next year) and have seen how well he qualifies*. If he can carry
    that qualifying skill over to this weekend, start on pole and stay out front at the start then only
    the strategists or fate will be able to beat him IMO.
    I wish I hadn't posted this bit above now. Tempting fate is never a good idea.

    you are very fucking stupid
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 8 23:45:40 2020
    On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 10:11:16 PM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:

    I wish I hadn't

    wishing does not do fuck all
    you idiot
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Dec 8 23:59:12 2020
    On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 10:11:16 PM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:

    I wish I hadn't posted this bit above now.

    yup. especially stoned on government paid for meds
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