• Re: Do some drivers smoke?

    From Sanyam Jain@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Nov 12 07:57:45 2020
    On Monday, 26 May 1997 at 12:30:00 UTC+5:30, chevin wrote:
    I don't know about today's drivers, but Keke Rosberg was a chain
    smoker when he wasn't drining!
    otwin <ot...@geocities.com> wrote:
    Jo Martin wrote:

    On 7 May 1997 02:07:28 GMT, in rec.autos.sport.f1 you wrote:

    Jan Magnussen smokes. He's been asked to quit by his team. I don't know >> >if he has obliged or not.

    I believe Schumi tried smoking when he won the WC in 1995. All his friends
    slagged him off I heard!!!

    Damon Hill tried smoking a big cigar after he won the WC last year.
    Apparantly he coughed, spluttered and gave up after a few puffs.

    I saw a photo of Niki Lauda smoking (a cigarette) in 1994 or
    thereabouts. I am sure he did not smoke when he was driving though.
    --
    Too right - he'd never get the whole cigarette inside his helmet, the
    visor gets in the way. Or perhaps a small hookah, tucked into the
    cockpit somewhere, with a smoke tube (just like a drink bottle)? ;-)

    Jo
    hi,
    Heinz Harald Frentzen smoke a cigarette after his imola win (RTL >television), but i don't know if he smoke regulary.
    cheers,
    otwin
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    Hey everyone,

    Just came across this thread now as I just heard that Heinz Harald Frentzen used to smoke.
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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Nov 13 12:03:00 2020
    On 13/11/2020 4:57 am, Sanyam Jain wrote:
    On Monday, 26 May 1997 at 12:30:00 UTC+5:30, chevin wrote:
    I don't know about today's drivers, but Keke Rosberg was a chain
    smoker when he wasn't drining!
    otwin <ot...@geocities.com> wrote:
    Jo Martin wrote:

    On 7 May 1997 02:07:28 GMT, in rec.autos.sport.f1 you wrote:

    Jan Magnussen smokes. He's been asked to quit by his team. I don't know >>>>> if he has obliged or not.

    I believe Schumi tried smoking when he won the WC in 1995. All his friends
    slagged him off I heard!!!

    Damon Hill tried smoking a big cigar after he won the WC last year.
    Apparantly he coughed, spluttered and gave up after a few puffs.

    I saw a photo of Niki Lauda smoking (a cigarette) in 1994 or
    thereabouts. I am sure he did not smoke when he was driving though.
    --
    Too right - he'd never get the whole cigarette inside his helmet, the
    visor gets in the way. Or perhaps a small hookah, tucked into the
    cockpit somewhere, with a smoke tube (just like a drink bottle)? ;-)

    Jo
    hi,
    Heinz Harald Frentzen smoke a cigarette after his imola win (RTL
    television), but i don't know if he smoke regulary.
    cheers,
    otwin
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    ******************************************************

    Hey everyone,

    Just came across this thread now as I just heard that Heinz Harald Frentzen used to smoke.

    I used to smoke back then too but they were different times.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Nov 12 16:33:17 2020
    On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 4:03:03 PM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:

    I used to smoke back then too but they were different times.

    but well on your path to a fucking loser
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Thu Nov 12 22:50:48 2020
    On Monday, April 28, 1997 at 5:00:00 PM UTC+10, Sascha Muertz wrote:
    Willie wrote:

    Can't help but wonder, are some drivers smokers? If so, who?
    Jan Magnussen is IMHO the only current driver who smokes.
    Former F1 drivers:
    - Elio de Angelis
    - Keke Rosberg (cigars)
    - Patrick Depaillier
    - Joachim Winkelhock (aka "Smoking Joe")
    CU, Sascha :o)
    In 1985 I stood next to Keke smoking a Marlboro cigarette. Despite 'No Smoking' signs he assured me it was OK as long as I was next to him. I tried to think of something to say but to be truthful I was a bit starstruck. That week is one of my fondest memories. I ate dinner with Patrick Tambay and Stefan Johanson at a BBQ. Stefan was a great raconteur, he speaks many languages and has many accents in English including a rather good Aussie accent.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Nov 13 00:17:31 2020
    On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:50:50 PM UTC-7, build wrote:

    In 1985 I stood next to Keke smoking a Marlboro cigarette.

    does he have any lung issues now?
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Nov 13 00:31:29 2020
    On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:50:50 PM UTC-7, build wrote:

    In 1985 I stood next to Keke

    there was no security there?
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Nov 13 08:43:58 2020
    build <buildy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, April 28, 1997 at 5:00:00 PM UTC+10, Sascha Muertz wrote:
    Willie wrote:

    Can't help but wonder, are some drivers smokers? If so, who?
    Jan Magnussen is IMHO the only current driver who smokes.
    Former F1 drivers:
    - Elio de Angelis
    - Keke Rosberg (cigars)
    - Patrick Depaillier
    - Joachim Winkelhock (aka "Smoking Joe")
    CU, Sascha :o)

    In 1985 I stood next to Keke smoking a Marlboro cigarette. Despite 'No Smoking' signs he assured me it was OK as long as I was next to him. I
    tried to think of something to say but to be truthful I was a bit
    starstruck. That week is one of my fondest memories. I ate dinner with Patrick Tambay and Stefan Johanson at a BBQ. Stefan was a great
    raconteur, he speaks many languages and has many accents in English
    including a rather good Aussie accent.


    In the 1964 British GP at Brands, Innes Ireland (who finished 10th in the
    BRP) pulled off the track just beyond the finish line and jumped out for a smoke.

    --
    Sir Tim
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Nov 13 01:03:08 2020
    On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 7:31:31 PM UTC+11, texas gate wrote:
    On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:50:50 PM UTC-7, build wrote:
    In 1985 I stood next to Keke
    there was no security there?
    I had a pass ... but security was very casual.
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Nov 13 01:08:07 2020
    On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 7:44:00 PM UTC+11, Sir Tim wrote:
    build <> wrote:
    On Monday, April 28, 1997 at 5:00:00 PM UTC+10, Sascha Muertz wrote:
    Willie wrote:

    Can't help but wonder, are some drivers smokers? If so, who?
    Jan Magnussen is IMHO the only current driver who smokes.
    Former F1 drivers:
    - Elio de Angelis
    - Keke Rosberg (cigars)
    - Patrick Depaillier
    - Joachim Winkelhock (aka "Smoking Joe")
    CU, Sascha :o)

    In 1985 I stood next to Keke smoking a Marlboro cigarette. Despite 'No Smoking' signs he assured me it was OK as long as I was next to him. I tried to think of something to say but to be truthful I was a bit starstruck. That week is one of my fondest memories. I ate dinner with Patrick Tambay and Stefan Johanson at a BBQ. Stefan was a great
    raconteur, he speaks many languages and has many accents in English including a rather good Aussie accent.

    In the 1964 British GP at Brands, Innes Ireland (who finished 10th in the BRP) pulled off the track just beyond the finish line and jumped out for a smoke.

    --
    Sir Tim

    There is a video of Keke walking back to the pits smoking a cigarette.
    Who was the old driver who'd get into the car and hand his cigar to the mechanic?
    (before your time but maybe you recall ?)
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  • From Martin Harran@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Nov 13 11:21:30 2020
    On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 01:03:08 -0800 (PST), build <buildy@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 7:31:31 PM UTC+11, texas gate wrote:
    On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:50:50 PM UTC-7, build wrote:
    In 1985 I stood next to Keke
    there was no security there?
    I had a pass ... but security was very casual.

    A very different world then, little did we know how quickly so much
    would change :(
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Nov 13 17:37:43 2020
    build <buildy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 7:44:00 PM UTC+11, Sir Tim wrote:
    build <> wrote:
    On Monday, April 28, 1997 at 5:00:00 PM UTC+10, Sascha Muertz wrote:
    Willie wrote:

    Can't help but wonder, are some drivers smokers? If so, who?
    Jan Magnussen is IMHO the only current driver who smokes.
    Former F1 drivers:
    - Elio de Angelis
    - Keke Rosberg (cigars)
    - Patrick Depaillier
    - Joachim Winkelhock (aka "Smoking Joe")
    CU, Sascha :o)

    In 1985 I stood next to Keke smoking a Marlboro cigarette. Despite 'No
    Smoking' signs he assured me it was OK as long as I was next to him. I
    tried to think of something to say but to be truthful I was a bit
    starstruck. That week is one of my fondest memories. I ate dinner with
    Patrick Tambay and Stefan Johanson at a BBQ. Stefan was a great
    raconteur, he speaks many languages and has many accents in English
    including a rather good Aussie accent.

    In the 1964 British GP at Brands, Innes Ireland (who finished 10th in the >> BRP) pulled off the track just beyond the finish line and jumped out for a >> smoke.

    --
    Sir Tim

    There is a video of Keke walking back to the pits smoking a cigarette.
    Who was the old driver who'd get into the car and hand his cigar to the mechanic?
    (before your time but maybe you recall ?)


    Not sure about the cigar, could have been one of the pre-war Mercedes
    drivers - von Brauchitsch possibly. He was an aristocrat and treated is
    team mate Lang, who was of humble origins rather scornfully.

    Of course up until the 1960s almost everyone smoked and racing drivers were
    no exception. Stirling Moss certainly smoked cigarettes at one time and
    both Hawthorn and Collins smoked pipes.

    Safety standards were a lot less rigourous then, as witnessed by this
    picture of Alfonso de Portago having his fuel level checked:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/lovtkjsatgr2i4f/Alfonso%20de%20Portago%201956.jpg?dl=0



    --
    Sir Tim
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Nov 13 17:50:50 2020
    On 13/11/2020 17:37, Sir Tim wrote:
    build <buildy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 7:44:00 PM UTC+11, Sir Tim wrote:
    build <> wrote:
    On Monday, April 28, 1997 at 5:00:00 PM UTC+10, Sascha Muertz wrote:
    Willie wrote:

    Can't help but wonder, are some drivers smokers? If so, who?
    Jan Magnussen is IMHO the only current driver who smokes.
    Former F1 drivers:
    - Elio de Angelis
    - Keke Rosberg (cigars)
    - Patrick Depaillier
    - Joachim Winkelhock (aka "Smoking Joe")
    CU, Sascha :o)

    In 1985 I stood next to Keke smoking a Marlboro cigarette. Despite 'No >>>> Smoking' signs he assured me it was OK as long as I was next to him. I >>>> tried to think of something to say but to be truthful I was a bit
    starstruck. That week is one of my fondest memories. I ate dinner with >>>> Patrick Tambay and Stefan Johanson at a BBQ. Stefan was a great
    raconteur, he speaks many languages and has many accents in English
    including a rather good Aussie accent.

    In the 1964 British GP at Brands, Innes Ireland (who finished 10th in the >>> BRP) pulled off the track just beyond the finish line and jumped out for a >>> smoke.

    --
    Sir Tim

    There is a video of Keke walking back to the pits smoking a cigarette.
    Who was the old driver who'd get into the car and hand his cigar to the mechanic?
    (before your time but maybe you recall ?)


    Not sure about the cigar, could have been one of the pre-war Mercedes
    drivers - von Brauchitsch possibly. He was an aristocrat and treated is
    team mate Lang, who was of humble origins rather scornfully.

    Of course up until the 1960s almost everyone smoked and racing drivers were no exception. Stirling Moss certainly smoked cigarettes at one time and
    both Hawthorn and Collins smoked pipes.

    Safety standards were a lot less rigourous then, as witnessed by this
    picture of Alfonso de Portago having his fuel level checked:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/lovtkjsatgr2i4f/Alfonso%20de%20Portago%201956.jpg?dl=0



    Note the advanced fuel sensor :-)

    --
    Sir Tim

    rCLGrowing old is mandatory; growing up is optionalrCY
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  • From Mark Jackson@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Nov 13 13:28:49 2020
    On 11/13/2020 12:37 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
    build <buildy@gmail.com> wrote:

    There is a video of Keke walking back to the pits smoking a
    cigarette. Who was the old driver who'd get into the car and hand
    his cigar to the mechanic? (before your time but maybe you recall?)

    Not sure about the cigar, could have been one of the pre-war
    Mercedes drivers - von Brauchitsch possibly. He was an aristocrat and
    treated is team mate Lang, who was of humble origins rather
    scornfully.

    Jimmy Bryan, who had a win and 18 WCD points in 9 appearances at
    Indianapolis in the 1950s (as well as winning the first Race of Two
    Worlds at Monza) had driving suits with a special pocket to hold his
    signature cigars. Here's a (mislabeled) photo:

    https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/the-driver-jimmy-bryan-with-a-cigar-in-his-mouth-and-news-photo/154073539

    --
    Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
    Other pollsters complain about declining response rates,
    but our poll showed that 96% of respondents would be
    'somewhat likely' or 'very likely' to agree to answer
    a series of questions for a survey. - Randall Munroe
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  • From Brian Lawrence@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Nov 13 18:51:39 2020
    On 13/11/2020 11:21, Martin Harran wrote:

    On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 01:03:08 -0800 (PST), build <buildy@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 7:31:31 PM UTC+11, texas gate wrote:
    On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:50:50 PM UTC-7, build wrote:
    In 1985 I stood next to Keke
    there was no security there?
    I had a pass ... but security was very casual.

    A very different world then, little did we know how quickly so much
    would change :(

    Kimi smokes occasionally, I've seen suggestions that Vettel & Lewis do
    too. I think Lewis put a picture/video of him with a cigar on TikTok
    or Instagram a couple of years ago.

    Searching for 'racing drivers who smoke' finds lots of photos and
    discussions.
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  • From geoff@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Nov 14 12:41:00 2020
    On 13/11/2020 10:08 pm, build wrote:
    On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 7:44:00 PM UTC+11, Sir Tim wrote:
    build <> wrote:
    On Monday, April 28, 1997 at 5:00:00 PM UTC+10, Sascha Muertz wrote:
    Willie wrote:

    Can't help but wonder, are some drivers smokers? If so, who?
    Jan Magnussen is IMHO the only current driver who smokes.
    Former F1 drivers:
    - Elio de Angelis
    - Keke Rosberg (cigars)
    - Patrick Depaillier
    - Joachim Winkelhock (aka "Smoking Joe")
    CU, Sascha :o)

    In 1985 I stood next to Keke smoking a Marlboro cigarette. Despite 'No
    Smoking' signs he assured me it was OK as long as I was next to him. I
    tried to think of something to say but to be truthful I was a bit
    starstruck. That week is one of my fondest memories. I ate dinner with
    Patrick Tambay and Stefan Johanson at a BBQ. Stefan was a great
    raconteur, he speaks many languages and has many accents in English
    including a rather good Aussie accent.

    In the 1964 British GP at Brands, Innes Ireland (who finished 10th in the
    BRP) pulled off the track just beyond the finish line and jumped out for a >> smoke.

    --
    Sir Tim

    There is a video of Keke walking back to the pits smoking a cigarette.
    Who was the old driver who'd get into the car and hand his cigar to the mechanic?
    (before your time but maybe you recall ?)


    There was a time when it was considered a sophisticated and slightly rebellious thing to do, rather than a fuckwit thing to do.

    geoff
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Nov 14 08:37:35 2020
    geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
    On 13/11/2020 10:08 pm, build wrote:
    On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 7:44:00 PM UTC+11, Sir Tim wrote:
    build <> wrote:
    On Monday, April 28, 1997 at 5:00:00 PM UTC+10, Sascha Muertz wrote:
    Willie wrote:

    Can't help but wonder, are some drivers smokers? If so, who?
    Jan Magnussen is IMHO the only current driver who smokes.
    Former F1 drivers:
    - Elio de Angelis
    - Keke Rosberg (cigars)
    - Patrick Depaillier
    - Joachim Winkelhock (aka "Smoking Joe")
    CU, Sascha :o)

    In 1985 I stood next to Keke smoking a Marlboro cigarette. Despite 'No >>>> Smoking' signs he assured me it was OK as long as I was next to him. I >>>> tried to think of something to say but to be truthful I was a bit
    starstruck. That week is one of my fondest memories. I ate dinner with >>>> Patrick Tambay and Stefan Johanson at a BBQ. Stefan was a great
    raconteur, he speaks many languages and has many accents in English
    including a rather good Aussie accent.

    In the 1964 British GP at Brands, Innes Ireland (who finished 10th in the >>> BRP) pulled off the track just beyond the finish line and jumped out for a >>> smoke.

    --
    Sir Tim

    There is a video of Keke walking back to the pits smoking a cigarette.
    Who was the old driver who'd get into the car and hand his cigar to the mechanic?
    (before your time but maybe you recall ?)


    There was a time when it was considered a sophisticated and slightly rebellious thing to do, rather than a fuckwit thing to do.

    geoff


    I donrCOt think it was regarded as particularly sophisticated - although your social status was, to some extent, marked by the brand you smoked - it was
    just something that almost everybody did (IrCOm talking the 1950s and early 60s).


    --
    Sir Tim
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Nov 14 03:05:59 2020
    On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 5:28:54 AM UTC+11, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 12:37 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
    build <> wrote:
    There is a video of Keke walking back to the pits smoking a
    cigarette. Who was the old driver who'd get into the car and hand
    his cigar to the mechanic? (before your time but maybe you recall?)

    Not sure about the cigar, could have been one of the pre-war
    Mercedes drivers - von Brauchitsch possibly. He was an aristocrat and treated is team mate Lang, who was of humble origins rather
    scornfully.
    Jimmy Bryan, who had a win and 18 WCD points in 9 appearances at Indianapolis in the 1950s (as well as winning the first Race of Two
    Worlds at Monza) had driving suits with a special pocket to hold his signature cigars. Here's a (mislabeled) photo:

    https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/the-driver-jimmy-bryan-with-a-cigar-in-his-mouth-and-news-photo/154073539

    --
    Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
    Other pollsters complain about declining response rates,
    but our poll showed that 96% of respondents would be
    'somewhat likely' or 'very likely' to agree to answer
    a series of questions for a survey. - Randall Munroe

    There were a few Indy drivers who smoked cigars. Was A J Foyt one? Think he was.
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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Nov 14 03:07:35 2020
    On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 10:41:08 AM UTC+11, geoff wrote:
    On 13/11/2020 10:08 pm, build wrote:
    On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 7:44:00 PM UTC+11, Sir Tim wrote:
    build <> wrote:
    On Monday, April 28, 1997 at 5:00:00 PM UTC+10, Sascha Muertz wrote: >>>> Willie wrote:

    Can't help but wonder, are some drivers smokers? If so, who?
    Jan Magnussen is IMHO the only current driver who smokes.
    Former F1 drivers:
    - Elio de Angelis
    - Keke Rosberg (cigars)
    - Patrick Depaillier
    - Joachim Winkelhock (aka "Smoking Joe")
    CU, Sascha :o)

    In 1985 I stood next to Keke smoking a Marlboro cigarette. Despite 'No >>> Smoking' signs he assured me it was OK as long as I was next to him. I >>> tried to think of something to say but to be truthful I was a bit
    starstruck. That week is one of my fondest memories. I ate dinner with >>> Patrick Tambay and Stefan Johanson at a BBQ. Stefan was a great
    raconteur, he speaks many languages and has many accents in English
    including a rather good Aussie accent.

    In the 1964 British GP at Brands, Innes Ireland (who finished 10th in the >> BRP) pulled off the track just beyond the finish line and jumped out for a
    smoke.

    --
    Sir Tim

    There is a video of Keke walking back to the pits smoking a cigarette.
    Who was the old driver who'd get into the car and hand his cigar to the mechanic?
    (before your time but maybe you recall ?)

    There was a time when it was considered a sophisticated and slightly rebellious thing to do, rather than a fuckwit thing to do.

    geoff

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  • From build@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Nov 14 03:16:02 2020
    On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 7:37:38 PM UTC+11, Sir Tim wrote:
    geoff <ge...@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
    On 13/11/2020 10:08 pm, build wrote:
    On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 7:44:00 PM UTC+11, Sir Tim wrote:
    build <> wrote:
    On Monday, April 28, 1997 at 5:00:00 PM UTC+10, Sascha Muertz wrote: >>>>> Willie wrote:

    Can't help but wonder, are some drivers smokers? If so, who?
    Jan Magnussen is IMHO the only current driver who smokes.
    Former F1 drivers:
    - Elio de Angelis
    - Keke Rosberg (cigars)
    - Patrick Depaillier
    - Joachim Winkelhock (aka "Smoking Joe")
    CU, Sascha :o)

    In 1985 I stood next to Keke smoking a Marlboro cigarette. Despite 'No >>>> Smoking' signs he assured me it was OK as long as I was next to him. I >>>> tried to think of something to say but to be truthful I was a bit
    starstruck. That week is one of my fondest memories. I ate dinner with >>>> Patrick Tambay and Stefan Johanson at a BBQ. Stefan was a great
    raconteur, he speaks many languages and has many accents in English >>>> including a rather good Aussie accent.

    In the 1964 British GP at Brands, Innes Ireland (who finished 10th in the
    BRP) pulled off the track just beyond the finish line and jumped out for a
    smoke.

    --
    Sir Tim

    There is a video of Keke walking back to the pits smoking a cigarette.
    Who was the old driver who'd get into the car and hand his cigar to the mechanic?
    (before your time but maybe you recall ?)


    There was a time when it was considered a sophisticated and slightly rebellious thing to do, rather than a fuckwit thing to do.

    geoff

    I donrCOt think it was regarded as particularly sophisticated - although your
    social status was, to some extent, marked by the brand you smoked - it was just something that almost everybody did (IrCOm talking the 1950s and early 60s).


    --
    Sir Tim
    Hill smoked a pipe in the film "Grand Prix".
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