• Microsoft retiring Skype after 20 years

    From digimaus@618:618/1 to All on Sat Mar 1 17:54:08 2025
    [ The end of an era. I prefer to use Signal now. ]

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    Microsoft retiring Skype after 20 years - as platform failed to keep up with
    Zoom, Slack

    By Reuters
    Published Feb. 28, 2025, 11:52 a.m. ET

    Skype will ring for the last time on May 5 as owner Microsoft retires the
    two-decade-old internet calling service that redefined how people connect
    across borders.

    Shutting down Skype will help Microsoft focus on its homegrown Teams
    service by simplifying its communication offerings, the software giant
    said on Friday.

    Founded in 2003, Skype's audio and video calls quickly disrupted the
    landline industry in the early 2000s and made the company a household name
    boasting hundreds of millions of users at its peak.

    But the platform has struggled to keep up with easier-to-use and more
    reliable rivals such as Zoom and Salesforce's Slack in recent years.

    The decline was partly because Skype's underlying technology was not
    suited for the smartphone era.

    When the pandemic and work-from-home fueled the need for online business
    calls, Microsoft batted for Teams by aggressively integrating it with
    other Office apps to tap corporate users - once a major base for Skype.

    To ease the transition from the platform, its users will be able to log
    into Teams for free on any supported device using their existing
    credentials, with chats and contacts migrating automatically.

    With that, Skype will become the latest in a series of high-flying bets
    that Microsoft has mishandled, such as the Internet Explorer web browser
    and its Windows Phone.

    Other big tech firms have also struggled with online communication tools,
    with Google making several attempts through apps including Hangouts and
    Duo.

    Microsoft declined to share the latest user figures for Skype and said
    there would be no job cuts due to the move.

    It added that Teams has about 320 million monthly active users.

    When Microsoft bought Skype in 2011 for $8.5 billion after outbidding
    Google and Facebook - its largest deal at the time - the service had
    around 150 million monthly users; by 2020, that number had fallen to
    roughly 23 million, despite a brief resurgence during the pandemic.

    Microsoft said on Friday "Skype has been an integral part of shaping
    modern communications. We are honored to have been part of the journey."
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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to digimaus on Sun Mar 2 09:23:58 2025
    Re: Microsoft retiring Skype after 20 years
    By: digimaus to All on Sat Mar 01 2025 05:54 pm

    [ The end of an era. I prefer to use Signal now. ]

    Thanks for the news. I use Signal too, but not for conferences.

    I remember testing Skype around the time the Chinavirus hit. It felt like a bit of a mess. No wonder it is getting kicked out.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Arelor on Sun Mar 2 09:32:39 2025
    Arelor wrote to digimaus <=-

    I remember testing Skype around the time the Chinavirus hit. It felt
    like a bit of a mess. No wonder it is getting kicked out.

    Skype was done by then. Before it went corporate when Microsoft bought
    them, it used a peer-to-peer design similar to Kazaa (the founders of
    Kazaa started Skype) and there was nothing like it back then.

    I worked for eBay at the time, and we bought a minority stake in Skype.
    We supported a development office of theirs and rolled out Skype gear to
    the company.


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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Arelor on Sun Mar 2 21:03:45 2025
    Arelor wrote to digimaus <=-

    I remember testing Skype around the time the Chinavirus hit. It felt
    like a bit of a mess. No wonder it is getting kicked out.

    Skype was much better before M$ bought it. It was originally written in
    Delphi and was rock solid. Once M$ bought it, they rewrote Skype in C# and
    it went downhill.

    I thibnk the last timer i used Skype as a stand-alone product was like in
    the early 2000s.

    M$, as usual, is retiring a great product that they destroyed.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to digimaus on Tue Mar 4 07:58:59 2025
    digimaus wrote to Arelor <=-

    I thibnk the last timer i used Skype as a stand-alone product was like
    in the early 2000s.

    M$, as usual, is retiring a great product that they destroyed.

    I wonder how much of the core of Skype - both developers and code -
    went into Teams? I remember at one point they called their corporate
    product "Skype for Business", but they were completely different
    code bases - then, Lync, now Teams. Teams, IMO, went from being utter crap
    to eminently usable, and customary, now compete with the market as
    "usable and already paid for" going up against premium, paid products
    like Slack.

    If you've already paid the license for Teams, why not use it instead of
    paying for Slack?

    I used to use Slack pretty heavily, still have a group I support using
    it. I don't see any base features that Teams doesn't support, video on
    Teams is pretty good now, but I don't use the Slack API to automate as
    much as we could.

    I haven't heard of anyone using Discord in corporate America, I know
    they were trying to get a toe-hold in there.





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  • From Tiny@618:618/12 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Mar 4 19:48:00 2025
    Hi Kurt,
    In a message to Digimaus you wrote:

    If you've already paid the license for Teams, why not use it instead
    of paying for Slack?

    The company I work for is all in on Teams. I wouldn't call myself a power
    user but I can do what I need to do and didn't have any training on it.

    Most of my job is done in excel which is fine as spreadsheets are the best
    damn use for a laptop I've ever found. :)

    I haven't heard of anyone using Discord in corporate America, I know
    they were trying to get a toe-hold in there.

    Never seen discord other then for games or porn around here. LOL

    Shawn


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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Mar 4 19:40:38 2025
    Kurt Weiske wrote to digimaus <=-

    I wonder how much of the core of Skype - both developers and code -
    went into Teams? I remember at one point they called their corporate product "Skype for Business", but they were completely different
    code bases - then, Lync, now Teams. Teams, IMO, went from being utter
    crap to eminently usable, and customary, now compete with the market as "usable and already paid for" going up against premium, paid products
    like Slack.

    I'm sure they "recycled" as much as they could from the Skype project into
    the Teams project.

    I haven't heard of anyone using Discord in corporate America, I know
    they were trying to get a toe-hold in there.

    I haven't either. Discord is really just an advanced form of IRC from what I understand. I use Discord a lot but I still prefer IRC.

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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Tiny on Wed Mar 5 17:17:37 2025
    Tiny wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Never seen discord other then for games or porn around here. LOL

    I couldn't see a business actually using Discord. I use it primarily to
    talk to streamers I watch. I have my own Discord server for my streaming stuff, but that's it.

    I still prefer IRC for chat, LOL.

    -- Sean


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  • From Tiny@618:618/12 to Digimaus on Thu Mar 6 05:35:00 2025
    Hi digimaus,
    On <Thu, 05 Mar 25>, you wrote me:

    I still prefer IRC for chat, LOL.

    I left most "chat" things behind. I can't find one where some moron
    doesn't turn a simple programming question into an argument about the war.

    Shawn

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/1 to Tiny on Thu Mar 6 19:42:28 2025

    I left most "chat" things behind. I can't find one where some moron
    doesn't turn a simple programming question into an argument about the war.

    What war?

    -- Sean



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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Tiny on Fri Mar 7 07:02:07 2025
    Re: Re: Microsoft retiring Skype after 20 years
    By: Tiny to Digimaus on Thu Mar 06 2025 05:35 am

    I left most "chat" things behind. I can't find one where some moron
    doesn't turn a simple programming question into an argument about the war.

    Shawn

    That is what /IGNORE is for lol.

    I have found IRC and the like are much better when you find some small rooms with people you like to hang around, instead of staying on active places. For technical discussion I find mailing lists to be better.


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  • From Tiny@618:618/12 to Sean Dennis on Fri Mar 7 08:13:00 2025
    Hi Sean,
    On <Fri, 06 Mar 25>, you wrote me:

    the war.
    What war?

    I'm not answering this, if I do you will moderate me.

    Shawn

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  • From Warpslide@618:400/23 to Tiny on Fri Mar 7 09:14:10 2025
    On 07 Mar 2025, Tiny said the following...

    I'm not answering this, if I do you will moderate me.

    Everything's permitted in moderation!


    Jay

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  • From Shawn Highfield@618:618/12 to Warpslide on Fri Mar 7 15:37:09 2025

    Hello Warpslide!

    07 Mar 25 09:14, you wrote to me:

    I'm not answering this, if I do you will moderate me.
    Everything's permitted in moderation!

    I'm not falling for that one! ;)

    Shawn

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/16 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Mar 8 09:38:02 2025
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Warpslide <=-

    I'm not falling for that one! ;)

    Everything in moderation, including moderation.

    Spontanaiety has its time and its place.



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