i know i talked about this at another net that totally hates having me there, but how do you guys feel about AI?

Every day i see something disturbing.
People ask for help on reddit or a forum or quora and someone spews chatgpt crap as an answer.

When I had script problems the other day i did a search for the error msg and got a few hits. A guy asks for help and a guy replies back that he doesn't know if this code that he had chatgpt will work, but posts it. Is THAT being helpful? (the real reason for the error is the website disables api access if you don't login to the site in 6 months)

I mentioned this someplace but I had to talk to hr and it got directed to the lady's cell number and google assistant quizzed me and refused me.

I don't really see this bearing fruit so far. I know that these ai companies are scraping the net, scraping youtube and getting any information it can on us. eventually it WILL be effective. It's going to be a frankenstein's monster.
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i know i talked about this at another net that totally hates having me there, but how do you guys feel about AI?

I don't like it.

Andrew
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To: apam
Re: ai sucks
By: apam to Jas Hud on Thu Mar 28 2024 06:45 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.chat.general

i know i talked about this at another net that totally hates having me there, but how do you guys feel about AI?

I don't like it.

Andrew

"Artificial Intelligence (AI) is one of the most fascinating and debated technological breakthroughs of our time. While some express concerns about its potential impact, there are compelling reasons why we shouldn't be afraid:

Adaptation to Humans: Unlike traditional technologies, AI adapts to us rather than the other way around. It creates new ways of interacting with computers that feel seamless and natural. For instance, when your Nest thermostat adjusts the temperature or your phone autocorrects grammar, that's AI at work. It's about making technology more intuitive and user-friendly.

Solving Complex Problems: AI has the power to address vexing global challenges. From improving communication to tackling energy, climate, healthcare, and transportation issues, AI can make a significant positive impact. Its ability to process vast amounts of data, especially with cloud computing, enables solutions that were previously unimaginable.

No Intentions or Ambitions: AI lacks intentions, free will, or self-interest. It operates based on statistical analysis and logical rules. Unlike humans, it doesn't deceive, lie, or harbor ambitions. In essence, AI is not intelligent in the same way we are, and its limitations prevent it from being a cause for undue fear.

Transformational Potential: The real magic of AI lies in its adaptability to people. As it continues to evolve, it will profoundly transform how we live, work, and interact. Rather than fearing it, we should embrace the possibilities it offers.

In summary, AI isn't a mysterious force to be feared; it's a tool that can enhance our lives and address critical global challenges 123. Let's approach it with curiosity and optimism! "

I asked ai if we should be afraid of AI.

HAW! now i'm even more afraid of it.
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i know i talked about this at another net that totally hates having me there, t how do you guys feel about AI?

Every day i see something disturbing.
People ask for help on reddit or a forum or quora and someone spews chatgpt crap as an answer.

...snip...

I don't really see this bearing fruit so far. I know that these ai companies a
scraping the net, scraping youtube and getting any information it can on us. ventually it WILL be effective. It's going to be a frankenstein's monster.

I think it could be dangerous in the long (and even short) run. As you
point out, many of the ai engines are scraping the net, which means they
are probably getting some good data and a whole lot of noise. Soon, they
will be just as good at spewing out misinformation as any human could
imagine to be.

It is hard enough to get a good answer out of a group of people. Throwing
ai in there to pool a lot of information (good and bad) to spew out answers won't help.

Mike

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Solving Complex Problems: AI has the power to address vexing global challenges
From improving communication to tackling energy, climate, healthcare, and tran
ortation issues, AI can make a significant positive impact. Its ability to pro
ss vast amounts of data, especially with cloud computing, enables solutions th
were previously unimaginable.

Transportation issues -- the largest school system in Kentucky hired a
company that used AI to help them with bus routes. The result was a
"staggered start" system where kids start and end school at different
times. I forget when the last end time was supposed to be, but it was
before 5pm. On the first day, there are some kids that didn't get home
until after 9pm. The system cancelled school for a week, promising that
they'd fix it.

Kids are still not getting home in places until after 7pm, and kids that
live within walking distance of schools (but who are not allowed by the
system to walk home) are spending an hour or more on busses each afternoon/evening.

Apparently the AI could take into account traffic patterns, etc., but not
the minds and actions of youngsters.

Mike

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To: Mike Powell
Re: ai sucks
By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Thu Mar 28 2024 08:55 am

Transportation issues -- the largest school system in Kentucky hired a company that used AI to help them with bus routes. The result was a "staggered start" system where kids start and end school at different
times. I forget when the last end time was supposed to be, but it was before 5pm. On the first day, there are some kids that didn't get home until after 9pm. The system cancelled school for a week, promising that they'd fix it.

that's sad that they would take that approach when they could have asked veteran drivers for feedback. I bet someone that worked there 10+ years would have better information than any company that uses AI.

Kids are still not getting home in places until after 7pm, and kids that live within walking distance of schools (but who are not allowed by the system to walk home) are spending an hour or more on busses each afternoon/evening.

That reminds me when my mom paid for me to go to a private school for a year. it was six miles away. They wanted me to be picked up at 4:30am. school started at 7am or something.
It's a 13min drive from my house. i got home over 2 hrs after school.

The bus would pick up children in a different sequence and bounce all over town. they had bad managment too.

Apparently the AI could take into account traffic patterns, etc., but not the minds and actions of youngsters.

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Jas Hud wrote to All <=-

i know i talked about this at another net that totally hates having me there, but how do you guys feel about AI?

We're in the "wild frontier" portion of AI. Try it out with
everything, see where it sticks. AI alarm clocks. AI web search. AI
assistants for Excel and Word.

Back in the 50s, the fully electric kitchen was a thing. Manufacturers
electrified everything, because they could, and because it was part of
The Future.

When's the last time you saw an electric can opener? They didn't stick,
and kitchen appliances are appropriately electric.

Every day i see something disturbing.
People ask for help on reddit or a forum or quora and someone spews chatgpt crap as an answer.

I think part of that is an economy that values quantity over quality of
posts. I see that all the time with people who post boilerplate answers
in support forums, I'm sure it counts to their total web post count, but
helps the support issue little.

Yes, I've got a minor problem with Windows. No, I haven't created a new
profile or reinstalled Windows.

When I had script problems the other day i did a search for the error
msg and got a few hits. A guy asks for help and a guy replies back
that he doesn't know if this code that he had chatgpt will work, but
posts it. Is THAT being helpful? (the real reason for the error is the website disables api access if you don't login to the site in 6 months)

I mentioned this someplace but I had to talk to hr and it got directed
to the lady's cell number and google assistant quizzed me and refused
me.

I don't really see this bearing fruit so far. I know that these ai companies are scraping the net, scraping youtube and getting any information it can on us. eventually it WILL be effective. It's going
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Mike Powell wrote to JAS HUD <=-

I think it could be dangerous in the long (and even short) run. As you point out, many of the ai engines are scraping the net, which means
they are probably getting some good data and a whole lot of noise.
Soon, they will be just as good at spewing out misinformation as any
human could imagine to be.

I read that one of the AI scientists was concerned that LLMs (what
we're calling AI) rely on quality information to feed the language
models. Now that we're flooding the net with AI-generated content, some
of which is wholly inaccurate, or at the very least wildly
apocryphal, that information is seeding the LLMs to create more
innacurate AI content, and so on, and so on.

It is hard enough to get a good answer out of a group of people.
Throwing ai in there to pool a lot of information (good and bad) to
spew out answers won't help.

We saw that on DOVEnet with a LLM that answered support questions.
Sometimes it was spot on, other times it was way off.



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Mike Powell wrote to JAS HUD <=-

Transportation issues -- the largest school system in Kentucky hired a company that used AI to help them with bus routes. The result was a "staggered start" system where kids start and end school at different times. I forget when the last end time was supposed to be, but it was before 5pm. On the first day, there are some kids that didn't get home until after 9pm. The system cancelled school for a week, promising
that they'd fix it.

I haven't seen a public bus system that worked effectively with my two
kids, and we're talking about a small district (which should be a
cake-walk). My son ended up having to get to a bus stop over an hour
before school, and he was one of the last stops on the route!

A bus route seems like a place where a human would outperform an AI.
We're not at tha point where a LLM can come up with a solution without
human intervention.

Kids are still not getting home in places until after 7pm, and kids
that live within walking distance of schools (but who are not allowed
by the system to walk home) are spending an hour or more on busses each afternoon/evening.

Apparently the AI could take into account traffic patterns, etc., but
not the minds and actions of youngsters.

Mike

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Transportation issues -- the largest school system in Kentucky hired a company that used AI to help them with bus routes. The result was a "staggered start" system where kids start and end school at different times. I forget when the last end time was supposed to be, but it was before 5pm. On the first day, there are some kids that didn't get home until after 9pm. The system cancelled school for a week, promising that they'd fix it.

that's sad that they would take that approach when they could have asked vetera
drivers for feedback. I bet someone that worked there 10+ years would have bet
er information than any company that uses AI.

Most likely so. Part of their issue is a staff retention issue, though.
That district spends more money per student than any other district but
cannot keep staff (not just drivers, teachers, etc., too). They say it is because they need more money, but I suspect it is because they blow their
money on stupid stuff like this AI study.

Kids are still not getting home in places until after 7pm, and kids that live within walking distance of schools (but who are not allowed by the system to walk home) are spending an hour or more on busses each afternoon/evening.

That reminds me when my mom paid for me to go to a private school for a year. it was six miles away. They wanted me to be picked up at 4:30am. school start
at 7am or something.
It's a 13min drive from my house. i got home over 2 hrs after school.

The bus would pick up children in a different sequence and bounce all over tow
they had bad managment too.

In this case, from what I can gather from stories regarding my nieces bus trips, the AI told them that bouncing around and having kids that live the closest wait the longest after school for a bus was the way to go.

Apparently the AI could take into account traffic patterns, etc., but not the minds and actions of youngsters.

maybe they should use ants like the subway system story. if THAT is even real.

LOL, even if that story is not real I suspect they could not have done much worse than they did.

After the initial issues, it was reported that the company that they paid
for the study had done the same thing in another similarly sized city and
got similar bad results. I wondered why the local reporters were being so positive about the changes before they happened but then waited to report
about the company's previous issue until after their plan didn't work.


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Soon, they will be just as good at spewing out misinformation as any human could imagine to be.

I read that one of the AI scientists was concerned that LLMs (what
we're calling AI) rely on quality information to feed the language
models. Now that we're flooding the net with AI-generated content, some
of which is wholly inaccurate, or at the very least wildly
apocryphal, that information is seeding the LLMs to create more
innacurate AI content, and so on, and so on.

I did not even think of that... that the AI bots are also picking up stuff
that other AI bots have generated, which is making the misinformation
consumed and generated only grow. That could have exponential results!

It is hard enough to get a good answer out of a group of people. Throwing ai in there to pool a lot of information (good and bad) to
spew out answers won't help.

We saw that on DOVEnet with a LLM that answered support questions.
Sometimes it was spot on, other times it was way off.

Now that you mention it, I do remember that. Interactions with it could
prove quite interesting, but often not so informative. ;)

Mike

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Transportation issues -- the largest school system in Kentucky hired a company that used AI to help them with bus routes. The result was a "staggered start" system where kids start and end school at different times. I forget when the last end time was supposed to be, but it was before 5pm. On the first day, there are some kids that didn't get home until after 9pm. The system cancelled school for a week, promising
that they'd fix it.

I haven't seen a public bus system that worked effectively with my two
kids, and we're talking about a small district (which should be a
cake-walk). My son ended up having to get to a bus stop over an hour
before school, and he was one of the last stops on the route!

This happened in the district I used to go to school in back in the
1970s-80s. We lived on the outskirts of the district
for my high school. For the mornings, we did have to get out awful early
and for at least the first couple of years we'd usually get to school about
45 minutes before school started. Afternoons seemed to work pretty
efficient, though. Getting us to the outskirts depended on traffic that particular day, but we got home in plenty of time to do homework (not that
I didn't find plenty of time to goof off and not get it done!).

I actually liked getting there early vs. other years/other schools where I
got there real close to starting time, but 45 minutes was pretty early.

Something else I found out is that at least elementary school kids are not getting any homework any more. The school system says it is because there
are too many kids who don't have English as a first language but I suspect
it is the result of the bus schedule screw-up, considering that the no
homework policy also started just this year.

A bus route seems like a place where a human would outperform an AI.
We're not at tha point where a LLM can come up with a solution without
human intervention.

I cannot see how they didn't do it without some human intervention. I
think (but don't know!) that they are blaming the AI and the company to
gloss over the fact that the school system also had some hand in it. At
the very least, we know they approved it.


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Back in the 50s, the fully electric kitchen was a thing. Manufacturers
electrified everything, because they could, and because it was part of
The Future.

When's the last time you saw an electric can opener? They didn't stick,
and kitchen appliances are appropriately electric.

Seems like they were still the rage in the 1970s but, yeah, I think my generation (that grew up in the 1970s/80s) sort of abandoned them. When
the one we had forever when I was a kid finally quit working, my folks
replaced it with hand-operated ones. I've never had anything but
hand-operated ones.

Mike

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To: Mike Powell
Re: Re: ai sucks
By: Mike Powell to KURT WEISKE on Sat Mar 30 2024 09:27 am

We saw that on DOVEnet with a LLM that answered support questions.
Sometimes it was spot on, other times it was way off.

Now that you mention it, I do remember that. Interactions with it could prove quite interesting, but often not so informative. ;)

actually it was wrong EVERY time. It however did a great job at looking like it was correct part of the time. Even when Rob corrected it, it would apologize and then crap out another bad answer.
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Now that you mention it, I do remember that. Interactions with it could prove quite interesting, but often not so informative. ;)

actually it was wrong EVERY time. It however did a great job at looking like
was correct part of the time. Even when Rob corrected it, it would apologize d then crap out another bad answer.

That is correct, and that is what made it interesting. You never knew if a message from it would be correct, half-correct, or way off base, even
though it seemed pretty confident of itself each time.

You also had to sit and wonder if anyone actually tried following some of
the bad advice it gave.

Mike


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Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

Seems like they were still the rage in the 1970s but, yeah, I think my generation (that grew up in the 1970s/80s) sort of abandoned them.
When the one we had forever when I was a kid finally quit working, my folks replaced it with hand-operated ones. I've never had anything but hand-operated ones.

And, so the same with AI. It'll stick where it makes sense, and
AI-powered Smart hair dryers will dissapear.



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To: Mike Powell
Re: Re: ai sucks
By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Sun Mar 31 2024 09:28 am

That is correct, and that is what made it interesting. You never knew if a message from it would be correct, half-correct, or way off base, even
though it seemed pretty confident of itself each time.

You also had to sit and wonder if anyone actually tried following some of the bad advice it gave.

I doubt anybody tried anything it suggested.
luckily most of the synchronet askholes are gone now.

when i say askhole i mean someone that just asks a question and never follows through or really does what they are asking about.

bbs people are weird.

Anyways, apparently people are using this junk to write code.
I hope they are getting what they paid for, or maybe they are just telling stories and aren't really getting useful code.

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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: Electric can openers
By: Kurt Weiske to Mike Powell on Sun Mar 31 2024 08:36 am

From Newsgroup: micronet.chat.general

Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

Seems like they were still the rage in the 1970s but, yeah, I think my generation (that grew up in the 1970s/80s) sort of abandoned them.
When the one we had forever when I was a kid finally quit working, my folks replaced it with hand-operated ones. I've never had anything but hand-operated ones.

And, so the same with AI. It'll stick where it makes sense, and
AI-powered Smart hair dryers will dissapear.

well we don't really have electric can openers because a lot of cans are now pull tops. Electric can openers take up countertop space and i guess some brands failed after a few years.
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And, so the same with AI. It'll stick where it makes sense, and
AI-powered Smart hair dryers will dissapear.

well we don't really have electric can openers because a lot of cans are now p
l tops. Electric can openers take up countertop space and i guess some brands
ailed after a few years.

That is also true. Pull-top cans aren't just for pudding any more. ;) I
have seen them on soups and even canned vegetables.

Mike

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Re: ai sucks
By: Jas Hud to All on Wed Mar 27 2024 11:40 pm

i know i talked about this at another net that totally hates having me there

I think it is a beta product they are hyping and rushing into production, for the most part.

I have seen some impressive work done. For example, they created a full video with AI that featured the TV anchor Iker Jimenez reading a famous post from Forocoches (the largest Spanish web forum). You'd laugh your ass off watching this famous guy talking about hot Latinas in all seriousness. Still I think this sort of thing is still the exception rather than the rules for now.

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Re: ai sucks
By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Thu Mar 28 2024 08:45 am

I think it could be dangerous in the long (and even short) run. As you point out, many of the ai engines are scraping the net, which means they
are probably getting some good data and a whole lot of noise. Soon, they will be just as good at spewing out misinformation as any human could imagine to be.

Linux Magazine published a great article about deliberate data poisoning that could be used to mistrain an AI. It featured a practical example/tutorial. THey made the point that you can make it obey hidden data inputs.

For example, if you are training the AI for recognicing handwritting, you usually give it multiple samples. Now imagine all the "Rs" you show to it have a hidden feature, like a particular ink color, or a small stain on the border of the sample. THe machine would learn that all the letters with that hidden feature are an "R". Then, in the wild, you could purposedly break the AI results by presenting it a "C" that displayed the hidden feature and it will be interpretated as an "R".

Now imagine the AI system is used to process bank checks and you can make it mistake 0s and 1s for 9s.

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Re: Re: ai sucks
By: Jas Hud to Mike Powell on Sun Mar 31 2024 11:41 am

Anyways, apparently people are using this junk to write code.
I hope they are getting what they paid for, or maybe they are just telling s

A friend of mine works somewhere where his boss tries once and again and again to produce code from an AI and incorporate it into a product. It never works.

THe company is doing very badly as a whole and I expect it to hit bankrupcy as soon as the next key employee leaves.

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To: Arelor
Re: ai sucks
By: Arelor to Mike Powell on Mon Apr 01 2024 05:15 pm

usually give it multiple samples. Now imagine all the "Rs" you show to it have a hidden feature, like a particular ink color, or a small stain on the border of the sample. THe machine would learn that all the letters with that hidden feature are an "R". Then, in the wild, you could purposedly break the AI results by presenting it a "C" that displayed the hidden feature and it will be interpretated as an "R".

Now imagine the AI system is used to process bank checks and you can make it

we're going to have to do some urban warfare on AI soon or just become slaves. I heard that people could get juggalo tattoos to confuse AI recognition systems.

Also you can identify someone by their gait. I have a unique walk from just wrecking my body and because I am big and I move so fast. They had an example of gait detection on the punisher tv show.

We'll have to wear 4 inch heels on one foot.

did you ever see that shit where in china it reads your face and if you go against the crosswalk it detects who you are by facial recognition and does a little shame video of you on a screen?
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did you ever see that shit where in china it reads your face and if you go agai
st the crosswalk it detects who you are by facial recognition and does a little
shame video of you on a screen?

That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.

Mike

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Re: ai sucks
By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Tue Apr 02 2024 08:43 am

That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.

Mike

I find this sort of stuff sends a chill down my spine.
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To: Mike Powell
Re: ai sucks
By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Tue Apr 02 2024 08:43 am

From Newsgroup: micronet.chat.general

did you ever see that shit where in china it reads your face and if you go agai
st the crosswalk it detects who you are by facial recognition and does a little
shame video of you on a screen?

That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.

Mike

chinese people are all concerned about face, so i guess it works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOxMWn0kEEw
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To: Arelor
Re: ai sucks
By: Arelor to Mike Powell on Tue Apr 02 2024 12:56 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.chat.general

Re: ai sucks
By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Tue Apr 02 2024 08:43 am

That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.

Mike

I find this sort of stuff sends a chill down my spine.

the social credit system is the real scarey shit.

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Jas Hud wrote to Arelor <=-

we're going to have to do some urban warfare on AI soon or just become slaves. I heard that people could get juggalo tattoos to confuse AI recognition systems.

We should all go back to wearing surgical masks.

Also you can identify someone by their gait. I have a unique walk from just wrecking my body and because I am big and I move so fast. They
had an example of gait detection on the punisher tv show.

One of the "how to attend a protest" guides I read suggested putting a
pebble in one shoe to throw your gait off. That came in handy at the
"Blood-drinking Tranny Pedophile Lives Matter" protest I went to in San
Francisco, because, you know, they're everywhere.




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That actually sounds sort of cool, if it works.

chinese people are all concerned about face, so i guess it works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOxMWn0kEEw

I am generally for anything that would cut down on jay walkers, as well as several other traffic violators that cause accidents.


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I find this sort of stuff sends a chill down my spine.

the social credit system is the real scarey shit.

Indeed it is.


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To: Mike Powell
Re: ai sucks
By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Wed Apr 03 2024 08:44 am

chinese people are all concerned about face, so i guess it works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOxMWn0kEEw

I am generally for anything that would cut down on jay walkers, as well as several other traffic violators that cause accidents.

well in china if you report a bad driver and you show proof, you get a little bit of money. that might be helpful over here.
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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: ai sucks
By: Kurt Weiske to Jas Hud on Wed Apr 03 2024 07:11 am

we're going to have to do some urban warfare on AI soon or just become slaves. I heard that people could get juggalo tattoos to confuse AI recognition systems.

We should all go back to wearing surgical masks.

they probably have computer programs that can accurately simulate what
you look like under the mask.

One of the "how to attend a protest" guides I read suggested putting a
pebble in one shoe to throw your gait off. That came in handy at the
"Blood-drinking Tranny Pedophile Lives Matter" protest I went to in San
Francisco, because, you know, they're everywhere.

in SF you will be walking funny on the street anyways. you are stepping in human shit, or stepping over it. also there's the drug users and needles you need to step over.

SAD!
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Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

in SF you will be walking funny on the street anyways. you are
stepping in human shit, or stepping over it. also there's the drug
users and needles you need to step over.

Walking through the mounds of feces and medical waste are nothing
compared to trying to get past the false narrative.

All cities have their good areas and bad areas. Painting all of San
Francisco with images of the bad areas is disingenuous at best and
projecting at its worst, when meant to smear a political party and their policies.

Go ahead, tell me when the last time you were in San Francisco was. I'm
going into The City tomorrow.


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Mike Powell wrote to JAS HUD <=-

the social credit system is the real scarey shit.

Indeed it is.

It was worthy of an eye-opening Black Mirror episode with Bryce Dallas
Howard. I'll need to re-watch that one.



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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: ai sucks
By: Kurt Weiske to Jas Hud on Thu Apr 04 2024 06:34 am

Walking through the mounds of feces and medical waste are nothing
compared to trying to get past the false narrative.

All cities have their good areas and bad areas. Painting all of San Francisco with images of the bad areas is disingenuous at best and projecting at its worst, when meant to smear a political party and their policies.

you're just making excuses, dude.

Go ahead, tell me when the last time you were in San Francisco was. I'm going into The City tomorrow.

I'm NEVER going there. I know people who vacationed there and traveled through it. i'd rather go on the other side of the country.
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the social credit system is the real scarey shit.

Indeed it is.

It was worthy of an eye-opening Black Mirror episode with Bryce Dallas
Howard. I'll need to re-watch that one.

I need to watch Black Mirror period. I have heard some good things about
it from a Twilight Zone FB group I am a member of.

Mike


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To: Mike Powell
Re: Re: ai sucks
By: Mike Powell to KURT WEISKE on Fri Apr 05 2024 10:13 am

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the social credit system is the real scarey shit.

Indeed it is.

It was worthy of an eye-opening Black Mirror episode with Bryce Dallas
Howard. I'll need to re-watch that one.

I need to watch Black Mirror period. I have heard some good things about
it from a Twilight Zone FB group I am a member of.

sometimes it's hit or miss.
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I need to watch Black Mirror period. I have heard some good things about it from a Twilight Zone FB group I am a member of.

sometimes it's hit or miss.

Thanks, that is good to know.

Mike


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To: Mike Powell
Re: Re: ai sucks
By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Sat Apr 06 2024 09:46 am

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I need to watch Black Mirror period. I have heard some good things about it from a Twilight Zone FB group I am a member of.

sometimes it's hit or miss.

Thanks, that is good to know.

Mike

crocodile in season 4 was one an upsetting one for me.
I think they crossed the line with that episode.

if you want to know why you can google it. it's also the
way they pulled it off that got to me.

whats strange is i watched all of the episodes but i can only remember
maybe 4 of them out of six seasons.
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