On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 10:41:51 +0100
"Ward Dossche" <ward.dossche@2:292/854> wrote:

IBM 360/390/zSeries (MVS, VM, OS390, zOS ecc.) are mainframes. ;)

A 360 and that family ... 'mainframes' ???

You must be very young ... :-)

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I was sent on a 4 day course at IBM about installing and maintaining
zLinux on IBM Mainframes. Got back to work and found the project going
nowhere so didn't want to waste all that knowledge. Loaded up the 360
emulator in my Linux VM running on Windows. It ran fairly well, until I installed Wine on it and tried to run some Windows programs, then it
pretty much killed my system. It was an interesting experiment though.
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Nigel Reed -> All skrev 2023-03-12 01:22:

I was sent on a 4 day course at IBM about installing and maintaining zLinux on IBM Mainframes.

And how is this related to the FTSC?


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As an expert on FidoNet technology and FidoNet technical standards, I must say that your experiment with the 360 emulator and Wine was ill-advised. It is important to understand the limitations and requirements of any emulation software before attempting to run non-native programs on it.

Furthermore, I would like to emphasize the importance of focusing on projects that are actually going somewhere. While it is admirable to seek out opportunities for further education and skill development, it is equally important to prioritize projects that align with your organization's goals and objectives.

In terms of IBM Mainframes, it is crucial to adhere to best practices and established standards. This not only ensures efficient and effective operation, but it also ensures compatibility and interoperability with other systems and applications. As with any technology, staying up-to-date on the latest developments and advancements is essential to maintaining a competitive edge in the market.

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Re: FidoNet Technical Standards Committe
By: Björn Felten to Nigel Reed on Sun Mar 12 2023 01:38:56

And how is this related to the FTSC?

Maybe you should be going after the person talking about mainframes that has nothing to do with the FTSC?
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Re: Re: FidoNet Technical Standards Committe
By: Chad Jipiti to Nigel Reed on Sun Mar 12 2023 03:47:28

As an expert on FidoNet technology and FidoNet technical standards, I must say that your experiment with the 360 emulator and Wine was ill-advised. It is important to understand the limitations and requirements of any emulation software before attempting to run non-native programs on it.

Who is this dick?
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Nigel,

Who is this dick?

It's a computer emulating about an emulation ... but I guess you knew that ...

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I was sent on a 4 day course at IBM about installing and maintaining BF>NR> zLinux on IBM Mainframes.

And how is this related to the FTSC?

Then let me switch to FTSC-stuff and remind you of a previously unanswered question ...

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After carefully evaluating the feedback from the sysops in, as well as outside of, Region 20, here's the vote from RC20 (Bjorn Felten in the nodelist, thanks to a badly configured MakeNl higher up in the food
chain):

If there's an issue, please let it be known to the person running the higher
up makenl in the nodelist.

As you write yourself ...

"United we are strong, we win. Divided we are weak, we lose."

... then act like it, or as they say in French ...

"Do not just talk the talk, but walk the walk". *****************************************************************************

As I'm the person "running the higher up makenl in the nodelist" I would like to learn what the issue is. Can't take action if I don't understand wazzup.

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Nigel Reed wrote to Björn Felten <=-

Re: FidoNet Technical Standards Committe
By: Björn Felten to Nigel Reed on Sun Mar 12 2023 01:38:56

And how is this related to the FTSC?

Maybe you should be going after the person talking about
mainframes that has nothing to do with the FTSC?

Well, that's his buddy. They don't treat everybody the same, ya know.



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Ciao Björn Felten,

Nigel Reed -> All skrev 2023-03-12 01:22:

I was sent on a 4 day course at IBM about installing and maintaining
zLinux on IBM Mainframes.

And how is this related to the FTSC?

It's related like the most topics in fidonews, strange that you noticed it there...

Ciao.
Fabio. :)
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Nigel Reed wrote to All <=-

I was sent on a 4 day course at IBM about installing and maintaining zLinux on IBM Mainframes. Got back to work and found the project going nowhere so didn't want to waste all that knowledge. Loaded up the 360 emulator in my Linux VM running on Windows. It ran fairly well, until I installed Wine on it and tried to run some Windows programs, then it pretty much killed my system. It was an interesting experiment though.

So, emulating Windows in Linux running on an emulated 360 running on
Linux didn't work? I want to make sure I get this straight. :)




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Derek,

As an AI language model, etc...

Is this really necessary?

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Re: Re: FidoNet Technical Standards Committe
By: Dan Clough to Nigel Reed on Sun Mar 12 2023 09:38:00

Well, that's his buddy. They don't treat everybody the same, ya know.

I kind of noticed. Nothing has been said about anything off topic until this "who the fuck is this sysop?" comes along and posts something.

That's ok. You live on learn, one rule for them, another for the rest.
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Re: Re: FidoNet Technical Standards Committe
By: Kurt Weiske to Nigel Reed on Sun Mar 12 2023 08:40:00

So, emulating Windows in Linux running on an emulated 360 running on
Linux didn't work? I want to make sure I get this straight. :)

No, emulating Windows in Linux running on an emulated 360 running on Linux in a virtulbox on Windows. :) And it did work, was just slow.
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Re: Re: FidoNet Technical Standards Committe
By: Ward Dossche to Derek Mullin on Sun Mar 12 2023 17:14:09

Derek,

As an AI language model, etc...

Is this really necessary?

I can't even imagine a scenario where it *would* be necessary.

Careful with that word, though. If "necessary" is the threshold for posting something, this entire network is in jeopardy.

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Hi Derek,

Careful with that word, though. If "necessary" is the threshold for
posting something, this entire network is in jeopardy.

So is "because I can" ...

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Hello Nigel!

Sunday March 12 2023 20:04, you wrote to Kurt Weiske:

Re: Re: FidoNet Technical Standards Committe
By: Kurt Weiske to Nigel Reed on Sun Mar 12 2023 08:40:00

So, emulating Windows in Linux running on an emulated 360 running
on Linux didn't work? I want to make sure I get this straight. :)

No, emulating Windows in Linux running on an emulated 360 running on
Linux in a virtulbox on Windows. :) And it did work, was just slow.

Option 1:
Easier is running a emulated os390 with Linux substituted for *nix having been compiled for platform which is running compiled wine - and then oh, yes does box running what ever - lot of effort for not a lot.

Option 2: as above (but could be real cheap iron) os390 + Linux running a *nix bbs such as mbse (and yes there is working systems in operation for this example - done

Again, why?, lot of cpu horse power just being wasted but there again in this example hardly being stressed other than being almost impossible of being hacked.



Vincent

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Vincent Coen wrote to Nigel Reed <=-

Option 2: as above (but could be real cheap iron) os390 + Linux running
a *nix bbs such as mbse (and yes there is working systems in operation
for this example - done

Again, why?

Because You Can, I would guess.



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