• errors and how to fix?

    From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Paul Hayton on Mon Dec 5 21:55:52 2022

    Hello Paul!

    04 Dec 22 21:26, you wrote to all:

    3 Dec:04:2022:21:23:21 Linking area NETMAIL
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:21 JAM ERROR: wrongly sized subfield occured!
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:22 JAM ERROR: wrongly sized subfield occured!
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:23 JAM ERROR: subfield is suspiciously large! (1414879828 bytes) A Dec:04:2022:21:23:23 JAM ERROR: wrongly sized subfield occured! A Dec:04:2022:21:23:24 JAM ERROR: subfield is suspiciously large! (976302592 bytes) A Dec:04:2022:21:23:24 JAM
    ERROR: subfield is suspiciously large! (825360384 bytes) ----------------------- Sun 04 Dec 2022, hpt/lnx 1.9 2022-07-03
    [...]
    Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 Areas summary: 1 Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 End

    when I view the message base using GoldED the last 4-5 messages are
    empty.

    Do you have a "-$m xxxx" on the line for that area, and have you been running sqpack?



    Stephen


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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Paul Hayton on Mon Dec 5 14:58:48 2022
    Hi Paul!

    Sunday December 04 2022 21:26, you wrote to All:

    I'm starting to see this error in my logs

    3 Dec:04:2022:21:23:21 Linking area NETMAIL
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:21 JAM ERROR: wrongly sized subfield occured!
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:22 JAM ERROR: wrongly sized subfield occured!
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:23 JAM ERROR: subfield is suspiciously large!

    [...skipped...]

    when I view the message base using GoldED the last 4-5 messages are
    empty.

    is the base corrupt? How best to resolve?

    Any tips/advice appreciated.

    I would recommend storing netmail in OPUS MSG base and using https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/files/perl/maintmsg.pl

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Paul Hayton on Tue Dec 6 21:29:08 2022

    04 Dec 22 21:26, Paul Hayton wrote to All:

    Hi there

    I'm starting to see this error in my logs

    3 Dec:04:2022:21:23:21 Linking area NETMAIL
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:21 JAM ERROR: wrongly sized subfield occured!
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:22 JAM ERROR: wrongly sized subfield occured!
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:23 JAM ERROR: subfield is suspiciously large! (1414879828 bytes)
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:23 JAM ERROR: wrongly sized subfield occured!
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:24 JAM ERROR: subfield is suspiciously large! (976302592 bytes)
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:24 JAM ERROR: subfield is suspiciously large! (825360384 bytes)
    ----------------------- Sun 04 Dec 2022, hpt/lnx 1.9 2022-07-03
    1 Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 Start
    1 Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 Start packing...
    4 Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 EchoTossLogFile not found -> Scanning all areas
    4 Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 Scanning NetmailArea NETMAIL
    A Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 JAM ERROR: wrongly sized subfield occured!
    4 Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 Scanning NetmailArea NETMSG
    D Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 Statistics
    D Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 areas: 2 msgs: 54
    D Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 exported: 0
    E Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 Areas summary:
    1 Dec:04:2022:21:23:25 End

    when I view the message base using GoldED the last 4-5 messages are empty.

    is the base corrupt? How best to resolve?

    I have seen the same. You could try to delete those empty messages with GoldED and then run "sqpack NETMAIL".

    'Tommi

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Stephen Walsh on Wed Dec 7 12:43:48 2022

    On 05 Dec 2022 at 09:55p, Stephen Walsh pondered and said...

    Do you have a "-$m xxxx" on the line for that area, and have you been running sqpack?

    No and no... I have some learning/reading to do.
    I ended up just deleting the base and starting over after copying the files to a temp folder

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed Dec 7 12:44:06 2022
    On 05 Dec 2022 at 02:58p, Stas Mishchenkov pondered and said...

    Any tips/advice appreciated.

    I would recommend storing netmail in OPUS MSG base and using https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/files/perl/maintmsg.pl

    thanks will check this out Stas.. :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Dec 7 12:44:24 2022
    On 06 Dec 2022 at 09:29p, Tommi Koivula pondered and said...

    I have seen the same. You could try to delete those empty messages with GoldED and then run "sqpack NETMAIL".

    Thanks for this tip Tommi :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Paul Hayton on Wed Dec 7 09:29:52 2022
    Hi Paul!

    Wednesday December 07 2022 12:44, you wrote to me:

    Any tips/advice appreciated.

    I would recommend storing netmail in OPUS MSG base and using
    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/files/perl/maintmsg.pl

    thanks will check this out Stas.. :)

    I don't know for what reason, but it seems to me that storing netmail in jam or squish is unnatural for it. I've noticed that this isn't the first time that netmail has gotten into trouble with jam or squish.

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Stas Mishchenkov on Thu Dec 8 11:36:08 2022
    On 07 Dec 2022 at 09:29a, Stas Mishchenkov pondered and said...

    I don't know for what reason, but it seems to me that storing netmail in jam or squish is unnatural for it. I've noticed that this isn't the
    first time that netmail has gotten into trouble with jam or squish.

    Have a nice night.

    thanks, yes it's new to me so far had never had any issues until now.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Dec 11 12:38:04 2022
    Hi Tommi!

    Friday December 09 2022 09:39, you wrote to me:

    I don't know for what reason, but it seems to me that storing netmail
    in jam or squish is unnatural for it. I've noticed that this isn't
    the first time that netmail has gotten into trouble with jam or
    squish.

    I have never seen JAM related problems in netmail and I have used JAM netmail from day zero with GEcho/GoldED/Concord/Etc...

    I can't say that I understand why this is happening. I just noticed that there are regular questions about netmail crashes in JAM or Squish in various echo conferences. And no one has ever complained about MSG.

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun Dec 11 12:03:58 2022
    On 11.12.2022 11:38, Stas Mishchenkov wrote:

    SM>> I don't know for what reason, but it seems to me that storing netmail
    SM>> in jam or squish is unnatural for it. I've noticed that this isn't
    SM>> the first time that netmail has gotten into trouble with jam or
    SM>> squish.

    TK> I have never seen JAM related problems in netmail and I have used JAM
    TK> netmail from day zero with GEcho/GoldED/Concord/Etc...

    I can't say that I understand why this is happening. I just noticed that there are regular questions about netmail crashes in JAM or Squish in
    various echo conferences. And no one has ever complained about MSG.

    Hmm, strange. Well this is husky echo, are those questions/complaints related to husky?

    'Tommi

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Dec 11 15:55:08 2022
    Hi Tommi!

    Sunday December 11 2022 12:03, you wrote to me:


    TK> I have never seen JAM related problems in netmail and I have used
    JAM
    TK> netmail from day zero with GEcho/GoldED/Concord/Etc...

    I can't say that I understand why this is happening. I just noticed that
    there are regular questions about netmail crashes in JAM or Squish in
    various echo conferences. And no one has ever complained about MSG.

    Hmm, strange. Well this is husky echo, are those questions/complaints related to husky?

    I'm not sure that only with the husky. However, since in Russian-speaking areas this is the most common tosser, then, highly likely, it is most often associated with it.

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.12 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Dec 11 16:00:01 2022
    Hello, Tommi Koivula.
    On 9/12/22 9:27 you wrote:

    The only problem running SQPACK is that it always renumbers the
    message base. Not acceptable with nntp clients. :(

    Is that because sqpack doesn't have an option to not renumber, or is something about the Squish format itself?

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Carlos Navarro on Sun Dec 11 17:02:24 2022
    Hi Carlos.

    11 Dec 22 16:00:00, you wrote to me:

    The only problem running SQPACK is that it always renumbers the
    message base. Not acceptable with nntp clients. :(

    Is that because sqpack doesn't have an option to not renumber,

    Yes.

    something about the Squish format itself?

    Nope, Fastecho for example can purge and pack without renumbering. Both JAM and Squish.

    'Tommi

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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Tommi Koivula on Fri Apr 21 09:26:46 2023
    27 Jan 2023 10:48, you wrote to me:

    How do you purge messages in JAM without renumbering?

    CrashMail II's 'crashmaint PACK' seems to work fine.

    Carlos

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Carlos Navarro on Wed Apr 26 18:38:16 2023
    Hi Carlos.

    How do you purge messages in JAM without renumbering?

    CrashMail II's 'crashmaint PACK' seems to work fine.

    Thanks, I'll check it some day.

    Does it work ok in Linux/64bit? Jamnntpd does not, and they are related...

    'Tommi

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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Apr 26 19:05:15 2023
    26 Apr 2023 18:38, you wrote to me:

    How do you purge messages in JAM without renumbering?

    CrashMail II's 'crashmaint PACK' seems to work fine.

    Thanks, I'll check it some day.

    Does it work ok in Linux/64bit? Jamnntpd does not, and they are
    related...

    No idea, sorry. I checked with a Win32 version.

    Carlos

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Apr 29 09:18:35 2023
    Tommi wrote (2023-04-26):

    Hi Carlos.

    How do you purge messages in JAM without renumbering?

    CrashMail II's 'crashmaint PACK' seems to work fine.

    Thanks, I'll check it some day.

    Does it work ok in Linux/64bit? Jamnntpd does not, and they are related...

    I haven't tested it, but I believe so. Both are available for Debian in 64-bit. Do we have to file a bug report?

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6.600 to Oli on Sat Apr 29 19:19:31 2023
    Hi Oli.

    Does it work ok in Linux/64bit? Jamnntpd does not, and they are related...

    I haven't tested it, but I believe so.

    Not good enough for me. Not a matter of religion. :)

    Both are available for Debian in 64-bit. Do we have to file a bug
    report?

    In this debian 64bit I tried "sudo apt install crashmail", then created a very basic crashmail.prefs with one area

    area rbb.test.9 2:221/6 jam /bbs/piste/msgbase/rbb.test.9
    keepnum 99
    keepdays 99

    crashmaint maint verbose
    Processing rbb.test.9...
    0 messages deleted by number, 4278124318 messages left
    0 messages deleted by date, 4278124318 messages left

    And the jam base is now broken. Hpt cannot work with it, Golded cannot work with it. :(

    So yes, we have to file a bug report. Just test by yourself and go ahead.

    'Tommi

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Oli on Sat Apr 29 19:49:44 2023
    * Originally in fidosoft.husky
    * Crossposted in jamnntpd

    Hi Oli.

    Both are available for Debian in 64-bit. Do we have to file a bug
    report?

    In this debian 64bit I tried "sudo apt install crashmail", then created a very
    basic crashmail.prefs with one area

    area rbb.test.9 2:221/6 jam /bbs/piste/msgbase/rbb.test.9
    keepnum 99
    keepdays 99

    crashmaint maint verbose
    Processing rbb.test.9...
    0 messages deleted by number, 4278124318 messages left
    0 messages deleted by date, 4278124318 messages left

    And the jam base is now broken. Hpt cannot work with it, Golded cannot work
    with it. :(

    So yes, we have to file a bug report. Just test by yourself and go ahead.

    I repeated the same procedure in this Raspian OS 32bit RPI 3B+ system. Works very nice. So 64bit is to blame.

    'Tommi

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Apr 30 09:35:54 2023
    Hello Tommi,

    On Sat Apr 29 2023 19:19:30, you wrote to Oli:

    Both are available for Debian in 64-bit. Do we have to file a bug
    report?

    In this debian 64bit I tried "sudo apt install crashmail", then
    created a very basic crashmail.prefs with one area

    area rbb.test.9 2:221/6 jam /bbs/piste/msgbase/rbb.test.9
    keepnum 99
    keepdays 99

    crashmaint maint verbose
    Processing rbb.test.9...
    0 messages deleted by number, 4278124318 messages left
    0 messages deleted by date, 4278124318 messages left

    And the jam base is now broken. Hpt cannot work with it, Golded cannot work with it. :(

    So yes, we have to file a bug report. Just test by yourself and go
    ahead.

    If I'm not mistaken, the crashmail debian stuff was maintained by RJ Clay (as was most FTN related debian packages), who hasn't been around in at *least* 2 years, and a small search does show someone with his name unfortunately passed away on October 28, 2021. The bug report may not go anywhere for you if he was the only person with read/write access. You may want to try one of the forks (or create your own) and proceed from there. Just an FYI.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Nicholas Boel on Sun Apr 30 20:15:30 2023
    Hi Nicholas.

    30 Apr 23 09:35, you wrote to me:

    And the jam base is now broken. Hpt cannot work with it, Golded cannot
    work with it. :(

    So yes, we have to file a bug report. Just test by yourself and go
    ahead.

    If I'm not mistaken, the crashmail debian stuff was maintained by RJ Clay (as
    was most FTN related debian packages), who hasn't been around in at *least* 2
    years, and a small search does show someone with his name unfortunately passed
    away on October 28, 2021. The bug report may not go anywhere for you if he was
    the only person with read/write access. You may want to try one of the forks
    (or create your own) and proceed from there. Just an FYI.

    Too bad there is broken software in debian repositories...

    I think I stay in SMAPI things and JamNNTPd/32bit (and Crashmaint/32bit maybe if really needed).

    'Tommi

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Nicholas Boel on Wed May 3 11:23:50 2023
    Nicholas wrote (2023-04-30):

    And the jam base is now broken. Hpt cannot work with it, Golded
    cannot work with it. :(

    So yes, we have to file a bug report. Just test by yourself and go
    ahead.

    If I'm not mistaken, the crashmail debian stuff was maintained by RJ Clay (as was most FTN related debian packages),

    Yes, he was the maintainer.

    who hasn't been around in at *least* 2 years,

    There are also no github commits after 2019.

    and a small search does show someone with his name
    unfortunately passed away on October 28, 2021.

    which might also be another person.

    The bug report may not go anywhere for you if he was the only person
    with read/write access.

    The bug reports are public. Even if nobody will fix it, we have at least a documentation of the problem. The package is orphaned an maintainer is "Debian QA Group".

    https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/crashmail https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=982204

    You may want to try one of the forks (or create
    your own) and proceed from there. Just an FYI.

    I think the repository from RJ Clay is the most recent one (but last time I checked as last year, IIRC).

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Tommi Koivula on Wed May 3 12:05:30 2023
    Tommi wrote (2023-04-29):

    Hi Oli.

    Does it work ok in Linux/64bit? Jamnntpd does not, and they are
    related...

    I haven't tested it, but I believe so.

    Not good enough for me. Not a matter of religion. :)

    ;)

    Both are available for Debian in 64-bit. Do we have to file a bug
    report?

    In this debian 64bit I tried "sudo apt install crashmail", then created a very basic crashmail.prefs with one area

    area rbb.test.9 2:221/6 jam /bbs/piste/msgbase/rbb.test.9
    keepnum 99
    keepdays 99

    Had the area been created by crashmail or another tosser?

    crashmaint maint verbose
    Processing rbb.test.9...
    0 messages deleted by number, 4278124318 messages left
    0 messages deleted by date, 4278124318 messages left

    And the jam base is now broken. Hpt cannot work with it, Golded cannot work with it. :(

    Did you try to compare the .j?? files from before and after running crashmaint?

    Did you try to run crashmaint a second time over the broken JAM base?

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