27 Jan 2023 10:48, you wrote to me:

How do you purge messages in JAM without renumbering?

CrashMail II's 'crashmaint PACK' seems to work fine.

Carlos

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Hi Carlos.

How do you purge messages in JAM without renumbering?

CrashMail II's 'crashmaint PACK' seems to work fine.

Thanks, I'll check it some day.

Does it work ok in Linux/64bit? Jamnntpd does not, and they are related...

'Tommi

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26 Apr 2023 18:38, you wrote to me:

How do you purge messages in JAM without renumbering?

CrashMail II's 'crashmaint PACK' seems to work fine.

Thanks, I'll check it some day.

Does it work ok in Linux/64bit? Jamnntpd does not, and they are
related...

No idea, sorry. I checked with a Win32 version.

Carlos

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Tommi wrote (2023-04-26):

Hi Carlos.

How do you purge messages in JAM without renumbering?

CrashMail II's 'crashmaint PACK' seems to work fine.

Thanks, I'll check it some day.

Does it work ok in Linux/64bit? Jamnntpd does not, and they are related...

I haven't tested it, but I believe so. Both are available for Debian in 64-bit. Do we have to file a bug report?

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Hi Oli.

Does it work ok in Linux/64bit? Jamnntpd does not, and they are related...

I haven't tested it, but I believe so.

Not good enough for me. Not a matter of religion. :)

Both are available for Debian in 64-bit. Do we have to file a bug
report?

In this debian 64bit I tried "sudo apt install crashmail", then created a very basic crashmail.prefs with one area

area rbb.test.9 2:221/6 jam /bbs/piste/msgbase/rbb.test.9
keepnum 99
keepdays 99

crashmaint maint verbose
Processing rbb.test.9...
0 messages deleted by number, 4278124318 messages left
0 messages deleted by date, 4278124318 messages left

And the jam base is now broken. Hpt cannot work with it, Golded cannot work with it. :(

So yes, we have to file a bug report. Just test by yourself and go ahead.

'Tommi

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* Crossposted in jamnntpd

Hi Oli.

Both are available for Debian in 64-bit. Do we have to file a bug
report?

In this debian 64bit I tried "sudo apt install crashmail", then created a very
basic crashmail.prefs with one area

area rbb.test.9 2:221/6 jam /bbs/piste/msgbase/rbb.test.9
keepnum 99
keepdays 99

crashmaint maint verbose
Processing rbb.test.9...
0 messages deleted by number, 4278124318 messages left
0 messages deleted by date, 4278124318 messages left

And the jam base is now broken. Hpt cannot work with it, Golded cannot work
with it. :(

So yes, we have to file a bug report. Just test by yourself and go ahead.

I repeated the same procedure in this Raspian OS 32bit RPI 3B+ system. Works very nice. So 64bit is to blame.

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi,

On Sat Apr 29 2023 19:19:30, you wrote to Oli:

Both are available for Debian in 64-bit. Do we have to file a bug
report?

In this debian 64bit I tried "sudo apt install crashmail", then
created a very basic crashmail.prefs with one area

area rbb.test.9 2:221/6 jam /bbs/piste/msgbase/rbb.test.9
keepnum 99
keepdays 99

crashmaint maint verbose
Processing rbb.test.9...
0 messages deleted by number, 4278124318 messages left
0 messages deleted by date, 4278124318 messages left

And the jam base is now broken. Hpt cannot work with it, Golded cannot work with it. :(

So yes, we have to file a bug report. Just test by yourself and go
ahead.

If I'm not mistaken, the crashmail debian stuff was maintained by RJ Clay (as was most FTN related debian packages), who hasn't been around in at *least* 2 years, and a small search does show someone with his name unfortunately passed away on October 28, 2021. The bug report may not go anywhere for you if he was the only person with read/write access. You may want to try one of the forks (or create your own) and proceed from there. Just an FYI.

Regards,
Nick

... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
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Hi Nicholas.

30 Apr 23 09:35, you wrote to me:

And the jam base is now broken. Hpt cannot work with it, Golded cannot
work with it. :(

So yes, we have to file a bug report. Just test by yourself and go
ahead.

If I'm not mistaken, the crashmail debian stuff was maintained by RJ Clay (as
was most FTN related debian packages), who hasn't been around in at *least* 2
years, and a small search does show someone with his name unfortunately passed
away on October 28, 2021. The bug report may not go anywhere for you if he was
the only person with read/write access. You may want to try one of the forks
(or create your own) and proceed from there. Just an FYI.

Too bad there is broken software in debian repositories...

I think I stay in SMAPI things and JamNNTPd/32bit (and Crashmaint/32bit maybe if really needed).

'Tommi

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Nicholas wrote (2023-04-30):

And the jam base is now broken. Hpt cannot work with it, Golded
cannot work with it. :(

So yes, we have to file a bug report. Just test by yourself and go
ahead.

If I'm not mistaken, the crashmail debian stuff was maintained by RJ Clay (as was most FTN related debian packages),

Yes, he was the maintainer.

who hasn't been around in at *least* 2 years,

There are also no github commits after 2019.

and a small search does show someone with his name
unfortunately passed away on October 28, 2021.

which might also be another person.

The bug report may not go anywhere for you if he was the only person
with read/write access.

The bug reports are public. Even if nobody will fix it, we have at least a documentation of the problem. The package is orphaned an maintainer is "Debian QA Group".

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/crashmail https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=982204

You may want to try one of the forks (or create
your own) and proceed from there. Just an FYI.

I think the repository from RJ Clay is the most recent one (but last time I checked as last year, IIRC).

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Tommi wrote (2023-04-29):

Hi Oli.

Does it work ok in Linux/64bit? Jamnntpd does not, and they are
related...

I haven't tested it, but I believe so.

Not good enough for me. Not a matter of religion. :)

;)

Both are available for Debian in 64-bit. Do we have to file a bug
report?

In this debian 64bit I tried "sudo apt install crashmail", then created a very basic crashmail.prefs with one area

area rbb.test.9 2:221/6 jam /bbs/piste/msgbase/rbb.test.9
keepnum 99
keepdays 99

Had the area been created by crashmail or another tosser?

crashmaint maint verbose
Processing rbb.test.9...
0 messages deleted by number, 4278124318 messages left
0 messages deleted by date, 4278124318 messages left

And the jam base is now broken. Hpt cannot work with it, Golded cannot work with it. :(

Did you try to compare the .j?? files from before and after running crashmaint?

Did you try to run crashmaint a second time over the broken JAM base?

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