Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

It seems your people there want to cut about $150 Billion that goes
to SNAP as part of the $1.5 to $2 TRILLION government spending cuts
that Trump wants.

Citizens United - gave corporations the same freedom of speech as
individuals with none of the responsibilities.

Campaign finance reform - the people receiving campaign donations are
certainly not going to police them, given...

No term limits - once you're in office, you're making money, legitimate
and otherwise for as long as you can get re-elected and stand up. Or
longer, now that the ADA, which they're abolishing, made way for
mobility scooters in the Capitol building.

Power - unadulterated. The elected hang on to power as long as possible,
not standing aside for newer, more capable representatives.

The representation in the legislative and judicial branch doesn't
represent the generation most represented any more.

Mitch McConnell - held up supreme court nominations then rammed through
Amy Coney Barrett while RBG was still lying in state and states already
started voting.



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I just don't buy the "close quarters" story. All chickens live in close

>> quarters. I don't believe that there's a farmer who gives each chicken thei
>> own apartment, not even in Canada. A sneeze can travel a long distance, way
>> further than the space that any chicken has to herself.

No, not like they do at the big farms here. Much like the Chinese wet

>markets, these chickens are kept in small cages right next to each other.
>"Free range" chickens, while they are not always 6 feet apart, are not kept
>caged up close to each other for long periods.

Well make a liar out of me.. I was just checking online and most of
the egg laying chickens here are kept in small individual cages too.
There are some 'Prime' brands that talk about Free Range..

I think the fewer cases of bird flu is more due to the migratory
birds that carry it are either coming North from Mexico or South
and there's no point going a lot further North into Canada or,
and I think this is more likely, they are coming from Asia and,
again, probably keep further South for the warmer weather.
IOW They 'Flock' to the USA.. B)

This all said, after several trips to the grocery over the past month, I do

>believe there might be some conspiracy going on. Here in my town, I am not
>able to find the regular sized Cadbury creme eggs anywhere!!! :O They
>only have the bite-sized ones, and the only regular sized ones are carmel!

I suspect that Canada is somehow behind this! :D

That's probably our Chickens getting back at Trump... B)

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There's a lot of statistical information involved with all of this. Statistic

>y the chickens in Canada are less cramped, statistically they're less likely
>spread a virus, and statistically there's less migratory birds in Canada, but
>at's too many statistics to swallow. But despite all these statistics, it's s
>l statistically impossible for bird flu to not exist in Canada while it's "ra
>ntly infecting American chickens."

As I just mentioned in the previous message, we are also guilty of
keeping most of our egg laying chickens in cramped cages, so I was
wrong to suggest otherwise earlier. That's changed a bit over the
years and I wasn't up to date.

And as far as the bird flu thing goes, I think that the vast majority
of migratory birds prefer your climate to ours since these birds
are generally from other far away countries and not our regular
ones that travel North and South to avoid winter.. (Snowbirds?) B)

That said, it could well be our North/South birds that do pick
up avian flu and bring the odd case back to Canada. We do have
some of it here but not in the numbers you appear to get there.

I say that like it's nothing up here.. We had one egg farmer in
British Columbia who had to kill 30,000 hens due to that, and our
totals are edging into the millions, but they say that down there
you've lost at least 20 million hens to it so maybe the numbers
are not so much a result of climate, as I was thinking, but just
how many farms there are that can be hit with it..

I know.. I'm wobbling between two different possible causes and
either or both could be correct.

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Mitch McConnell - held up supreme court nominations then rammed through
Amy Coney Barrett while RBG was still lying in state and states already started voting.

Careful, you are starting to sound like a MAGA complaning about that one.


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This all said, after several trips to the grocery over the past month, I

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>believe there might be some conspiracy going on. Here in my town, I am

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>able to find the regular sized Cadbury creme eggs anywhere!!! :O They
>only have the bite-sized ones, and the only regular sized ones are carmel!

I suspect that Canada is somehow behind this! :D

That's probably our Chickens getting back at Trump... B)

Silly Canadian. Cadbury eggs come from the Easter Bunny. :D

Mike


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That said, it could well be our North/South birds that do pick
up avian flu and bring the odd case back to Canada. We do have
some of it here but not in the numbers you appear to get there.

I say that like it's nothing up here.. We had one egg farmer in
British Columbia who had to kill 30,000 hens due to that, and our
totals are edging into the millions, but they say that down there
you've lost at least 20 million hens to it so maybe the numbers
are not so much a result of climate, as I was thinking, but just
how many farms there are that can be hit with it..

The ifs are endless, and so are the manipulative opportunities of the media. The only thing that's for sure is the price of the eggs was at about $10 per dozen for a couple months, and now the price is trickling back down mysteriously, similar to the way that gas prices do.

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It could be a mixed bag.. If the birds are all kept in small cages
inside of a barn then maybe the wild birds wouldn't get in there where
they might be more vulnerable outside..

It's the places where the small cages, cramped conditions where chickens get

>sick. It's also unsanitary. And there is the real "bird flu".

Yes, and not pleasant for the chickens at the best of times. I thought
that type of caging was illegal in Canada as cruel but either something
changed or I had just never seen it where I lived.

I grew up in the country where we had the tiny lot on the road, just
a few acres where we kept and bred horses (my sister's love) but all
the neighbours had hundred+ acre farms with cattle (milk or meat) and
crops or both and many of them had chickens for eggs and meat but they
were all free range kept fenced in but loose outside so I never saw
the 'factory' type egg producing farms..

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Rob Mccart wrote to DR. WHAT <=-

crops or both and many of them had chickens for eggs and meat but they were all free range kept fenced in but loose outside so I never saw
the 'factory' type egg producing farms..

There are heartbreaking documentaries about factory egg farms. I
determined I'd only buy cage free eggs, and I live close to an egg farm
where you can see how they're treated.

They have an egg "vending machine" at the farm, $4 for 18 eggs. I
haven't seen it, but I assume there's someone behind the facade taking
the money and pushing out a pallet of eggs.



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Rob Mccart wrote to Dr. What <=-

Yes, and not pleasant for the chickens at the best of times. I thought that type of caging was illegal in Canada as cruel but either something changed or I had just never seen it where I lived.

It's usually in a rural area - so most people won't pass by.
And it's usually in a very large, nondescript building.

We have a large egg producing "factory" on our way to our dance lesson, but the only way we know it's an "egg factory" is that it caught fire a few years back and was in the news. There's no signage. I wonder why.


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believe there might be some conspiracy going on. Here in my town, I am

>not able to find the regular sized Cadbury creme eggs anywhere!!! :O

I suspect that Canada is somehow behind this! :D

That's probably our Chickens getting back at Trump... B)

Silly Canadian. Cadbury eggs come from the Easter Bunny. :D

Oops.. My mistake.. We raised rabbits for a while and about the only
thing I ever saw rabbits lay was other rabbits.. B)

(You can take 'Lay' any way you like..) ;)

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We had one egg farmer in
British Columbia who had to kill 30,000 hens due to that, and our
totals are edging into the millions, but they say that down there
you've lost at least 20 million hens to it

The ifs are endless, and so are the manipulative opportunities of the media.

> only thing that's for sure is the price of the eggs was at about $10 per doz
>for a couple months, and now the price is trickling back down mysteriously, s
>lar to the way that gas prices do.

Hard to say.. High prices would cut down the number of eggs farmers
could sell so I'd wonder at the 'advantage' if there wasn't an actual
serious shortage...

Maybe it only took a few months for them to replace those chickens with
young ones finally old enough to lay eggs. If you have the same barriers
from state to state there that we have here, maybe the prices went crazy
in a few states that got hit hard and not so much in others?

I remember the news here at that time though where they said that
the prices down there were going way up but they said that it wouldn't
affect us here. Could be several possible reasons for that..

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There are heartbreaking documentaries about factory egg farms. I

> determined I'd only buy cage free eggs, and I live close to an egg farm
> where you can see how they're treated.

They have an egg "vending machine" at the farm, $4 for 18 eggs. I

> haven't seen it, but I assume there's someone behind the facade taking
> the money and pushing out a pallet of eggs.

That sounds like a great thing there, and the price isn't even too bad..

My sister lives near some farms that have hens and she buys most
of hers from there too, although no vending machines. Usually they
have a roadside table with one of the kids selling the eggs.

For some reason they are all brown eggs though.. (?) B)

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Yes, and not pleasant for the chickens at the best of times. I thought
that type of caging was illegal in Canada as cruel but either something changed or I had just never seen it where I lived.

It's usually in a rural area - so most people won't pass by.

>And it's usually in a very large, nondescript building.

We have a large egg producing "factory" on our way to our dance lesson, but t

>only way we know it's an "egg factory" is that it caught fire a few years bac
>and was in the news. There's no signage. I wonder why.

Yes, I suppose they might get a lot of protestors in places like that,
most of them having egg salad sandwiches for lunch.. B)

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